U.S. general: No evidence Iran is arming Iraqis

ledvedderman
ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
edited February 2007 in A Moving Train
Here we go again.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17129144/


Updated: 18 minutes ago
JAKARTA, Indonesia - A top U.S. general said Tuesday there was no evidence the Iranian government was supplying Iraqi insurgents with highly lethal roadside bombs, apparently contradicting claims by other U.S. military and administration officials.

Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said U.S. forces hunting down militant networks that produced roadside bombs had arrested Iranians and that some of the material used in the devices were made in Iran.

“That does not translate that the Iranian government per se, for sure, is directly involved in doing this,” Pace told reporters in the Indonesian capital, Jakarta. “What it does say is that things made in Iran are being used in Iraq to kill coalition soldiers.”

His remarks might raise questions on the credibility of the claims of high-level Iranian involvement, especially following the faulty U.S. intelligence that was used to justify the invasion of Iraq in 2003.

Three senior military officials in Baghdad said Sunday that the highest levels of Iranian government were responsible for arming Shiite militants in Iraq with the bombs, blamed for the deaths of more than 170 U.S. troops

Asked Monday directly if the White House was confident that the weaponry is coming on the approval of the Iranian government, spokesman Tony Snow said, “Yes.”

Iran on Monday denied any involvement.

“Such accusations cannot be relied upon or be presented as evidence. The United States has a long history in fabricating evidence. Such charges are unacceptable,” Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini told reporters in Tehran.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    ledvedderman wrote:
    “That does not translate that the Iranian government per se, for sure, is directly involved in doing this,” Pace told reporters in the Indonesian capital, Jakarta. “What it does say is that things made in Iran are being used in Iraq to kill coalition soldiers.”


    thats enough for me.
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Yes, they were MADE there, that doesn't mean they are supplying them with the weapons. The Sony CD-R's on my desk were made in Taiwan, does that mean the gov't of Taiwan is supplying me with CD's?
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  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    jlew24asu wrote:
    thats enough for me.

    yeah, shall we attack washington if we find something manufactured in the United States is used to kill one of ours?

    Its this angry thoughtless thought process that has killed our soldiers in Iraq and the people of Iraq.

    Uncanny.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    when has lack of evidence ever stopped us before?
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Abuskedti wrote:
    yeah, shall we attack washington if we find something manufactured in the United States is used to kill one of ours?

    Its this angry thoughtless thought process that has killed our soldiers in Iraq and the people of Iraq.

    Uncanny.
    no way am I suggesting an attack. but to deny Iran's involvement is a joke.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Yes, they were MADE there, that doesn't mean they are supplying them with the weapons. The Sony CD-R's on my desk were made in Taiwan, does that mean the gov't of Taiwan is supplying me with CD's?


    do you think Iran is doing anything to prevent these bombs and weapons from getting into Iraq?
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    do you think Iran is doing anything to prevent these bombs and weapons from getting into Iraq?


    And here I thought when you try to take over a country, you should secure the borders. ha ha ha

    Yeah, the joke that is this war on a word, in the wrong country.
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    jlew24asu wrote:
    do you think Iran is doing anything to prevent these bombs and weapons from getting into Iraq?

    I'm not ready to buy into it. There better be some real "slam dunk" evidence to get me to believe anything now. I had better see a videotape of the President of Iran handing over weapons to insurgents in Iraq before I will believe anything
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,875
    i doubt that lack of evidence will stop this administration. and i doubt that the people will stand up against any military action in iran. i am waiting for the iran 9/11 connection to be made.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    ledvedderman wrote:
    I'm not ready to buy into it. There better be some real "slam dunk" evidence to get me to believe anything now. I had better see a videotape of the President of Iran handing over weapons to insurgents in Iraq before I will believe anything
    all of you people are a little to trusting of Iran and its wonderful president
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    even flow? wrote:
    And here I thought when you try to take over a country, you should secure the borders. ha ha ha

    Yeah, the joke that is this war on a word, in the wrong country.


    hahahahahahahahaa its sooo funny isnt it? we cant even secure our own borders. you seem to think its easy to secure a much larger, more remote border, more then half way around the world.



    hahahahahahahahahaha its sooo funny
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i doubt that lack of evidence will stop this administration. and i doubt that the people will stand up against any military action in iran. i am waiting for the iran 9/11 connection to be made.
    i' sure if one was found you wouldnt believe it because Iran would never do such a thing
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,875
    jlew24asu wrote:
    all of you people are a little to trusting of Iran and its wonderful president

    its not that, its just i do not trust our president at all. in fact i am not so sure i believe in government with what it has become in recent years. the fucking senate will not even debate on iraq resolutions, which is what the public wants it to do.

    i am tired of being told to live in fear, and i do not fear the little man in iran and you shouldn't either.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    jlew24asu wrote:
    hahahahahahahahaa its sooo funny isnt it? we cant even secure our own borders. you seem to think its easy to secure a much larger, more remote border, more then half way around the world.



    hahahahahahahahahaha its sooo funny
    Ever lend any thought to the idea that maybe this is exactly why we shouldn't have tried to take over Iraq in the first place?
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    its not that, its just i do not trust our president at all. in fact i am not so sure i believe in government with what it has become in recent years. the fucking senate will not even debate on iraq resolutions, which is what the public wants it to do.

    i am tired of being told to live in fear, and i do not fear the little man in iran and you shouldn't either.


    I dont trust bush and I dont fear Iran's little president. but I do believe that Iran would support the killing of american troops and Israel civilians given the opportunity.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,875
    jlew24asu wrote:
    i' sure if one was found you wouldnt believe it because Iran would never do such a thing

    and you would believe it because fox news told you it was true. give me a break. we have been lied to so many times i don't believe anything this administration says anymore. you know iran had nothig to do with 9/11 right?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    I don't think it's that we "trust" the Iranian government, but there is lierally no reason to believe anything that comes from our current administration.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RainDog wrote:
    Ever lend any thought to the idea that maybe this is exactly why we shouldn't have tried to take over Iraq in the first place?
    well we did. get over it. nothing will get solved being a monday morning quarterback. come up with a solution or quit your bitching.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,875
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I dont trust bush and I dont fear Iran's little president. but I do believe that Iran would support the killing of american troops and Israel civilians given the opportunity.

    but half of the world supports this. can't you see that?

    all because bush thought it was a good idea to act unulaterally in iraq. we have spoiled all of the goodwill towards the US that we had right after 9/11.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    and you would believe it because fox news told you it was true.
    another fox news cheap shot. too funny. and no I wouldnt. what if there was proof and cnn and msnbc and the nytimes and latimes and the hundreds of other liberal outlets found a link. would you believe it then?
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    we have been lied to so many times i don't believe anything this administration says anymore.
    I agree I dont trust them either.
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    you know iran had nothig to do with 9/11 right?
    yea I know. it was Bush and the PNAC

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