Russian scientist predicts global COOLING!
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Russian scientist predicts global cooling
MOSCOW, Aug. 25 (UPI) -- A Russian scientist predicts a period of global cooling in coming decades, followed by a warmer interval.
Khabibullo Abdusamatov expects a repeat of the period known as the Little Ice Age. During the 16th century, the Baltic Sea froze so hard that hotels were built on the ice for people crossing the sea in coaches.
The Little Ice Age is believed to have contributed to the end of the Norse colony in Greenland, which was founded during an interval of much warmer weather.
Abdusamatov and his colleagues at the Russian Academy of Sciences astronomical observatory said the prediction is based on measurement of solar emissions, Novosti reported. They expect the cooling to begin within a few years and to reach its peak between 2055 and 2060.
"The Kyoto initiatives to save the planet from the greenhouse effect should be put off until better times," he said. "The global temperature maximum has been reached on Earth, and Earth's global temperature will decline to a climatic minimum even without the Kyoto protocol."
Russian scientist predicts global cooling
MOSCOW, Aug. 25 (UPI) -- A Russian scientist predicts a period of global cooling in coming decades, followed by a warmer interval.
Khabibullo Abdusamatov expects a repeat of the period known as the Little Ice Age. During the 16th century, the Baltic Sea froze so hard that hotels were built on the ice for people crossing the sea in coaches.
The Little Ice Age is believed to have contributed to the end of the Norse colony in Greenland, which was founded during an interval of much warmer weather.
Abdusamatov and his colleagues at the Russian Academy of Sciences astronomical observatory said the prediction is based on measurement of solar emissions, Novosti reported. They expect the cooling to begin within a few years and to reach its peak between 2055 and 2060.
"The Kyoto initiatives to save the planet from the greenhouse effect should be put off until better times," he said. "The global temperature maximum has been reached on Earth, and Earth's global temperature will decline to a climatic minimum even without the Kyoto protocol."
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At least no one is talking about Nuclear Winter right now..........I wish that it was cooler. Nature does run in cycles, so this might have some merit.All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.0
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I'm just going to continue to pollute my enviroment and wait for rapture...I figure god will sort it out....0
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Ya anytime a renegade scientist comes up with anything contrary to warming, it gets published because it is news. I would think the studies of thousands of scientists who agree that warming will occur over one study by one scientist.binauralsounds wrote:Ok, WHICH IS IT?????????
Russian scientist predicts global cooling
MOSCOW, Aug. 25 (UPI) -- A Russian scientist predicts a period of global cooling in coming decades, followed by a warmer interval.
Khabibullo Abdusamatov expects a repeat of the period known as the Little Ice Age. During the 16th century, the Baltic Sea froze so hard that hotels were built on the ice for people crossing the sea in coaches.
The Little Ice Age is believed to have contributed to the end of the Norse colony in Greenland, which was founded during an interval of much warmer weather.
Abdusamatov and his colleagues at the Russian Academy of Sciences astronomical observatory said the prediction is based on measurement of solar emissions, Novosti reported. They expect the cooling to begin within a few years and to reach its peak between 2055 and 2060.
"The Kyoto initiatives to save the planet from the greenhouse effect should be put off until better times," he said. "The global temperature maximum has been reached on Earth, and Earth's global temperature will decline to a climatic minimum even without the Kyoto protocol."
The difference between then and now is that back then there wasn't billions of tons of CO2 pumped into the atmosphere every year and CO2 sinks such as forests were not logged widescale.0 -
first of all - forecasts associated with climate change have a worldwide cooling as a possible consequence depending on the ocean currents and whether or not a significant desalination will disrupt the current streams ...
secondly, climate change is affecting us right now ... the monsoons and typhoons in asia have killed thousands this year alone ... there is a drought in a friggin' rainforest on vancouver island now ...
killer heat waves this summer in the northern hemisphere ...
articles like this are just a distraction ... there is a global and scientific consensus on this topic ...0 -
binauralsounds wrote:Ok, WHICH IS IT?????????
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So what you are saying is, this one report rubbishes the endless stream of data that proves climate change is real, is going to kill an awful lot of people?
You rubbish ALL evidence that shows this then?
IF so, you need help. IF not, why the fuck post an inane little article like this?The world's greatest empires progress through this sequence:From bondage to spiritual faith; spiritual faith to great courage; courage to liberty;liberty to abundance;abundance to selfishness; selfishness to complacency;complacency to apathy;apathy to dependence;dependency back again into bondage0 -
man, you all really get pi$$ed when a scientist refutes your baseless claims.0
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monkey spanker wrote:man, you all really get pi$$ed when a scientist refutes your baseless claims.
ha! ... just goes to show you aren't reading anything ... cuz dude isn't refuting climate change ... all he's saying is that a decrease in solar output will offset the changes ...
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Havent there always been monsoons & typhoons in asia? Isnt it possible that higher death rates may be associated with larger populations in areas that traditionally experience these types of storms. The same can be said about hurricane damage in this country. With more & more high priced development along the coastlines, the cost in both lives and money is going to be higher than it was in previous decades.polaris wrote:first of all - forecasts associated with climate change have a worldwide cooling as a possible consequence depending on the ocean currents and whether or not a significant desalination will disrupt the current streams ...
secondly, climate change is affecting us right now ... the monsoons and typhoons in asia have killed thousands this year alone ... there is a drought in a friggin' rainforest on vancouver island now ...
killer heat waves this summer in the northern hemisphere ...
articles like this are just a distraction ... there is a global and scientific consensus on this topic ...0 -
1970RR wrote:Havent there always been monsoons & typhoons in asia? Isnt it possible that higher death rates may be associated with larger populations in areas that traditionally experience these types of storms. The same can be said about hurricane damage in this country. With more & more high priced development along the coastlines, the cost in both lives and money is going to be higher than it was in previous decades.
no, its because i drive a ford expedition..al gore said so.0 -
1970RR wrote:Havent there always been monsoons & typhoons in asia? Isnt it possible that higher death rates may be associated with larger populations in areas that traditionally experience these types of storms. The same can be said about hurricane damage in this country. With more & more high priced development along the coastlines, the cost in both lives and money is going to be higher than it was in previous decades.
absolutely, development and population growth impacts the consequences but the severity of these weather events have long been predicted to increase and we are seeing this ... its not like these villages that are getting swamped haven't been there for years ... its just that the monsoons are more severe ... as with everything else ...
the destruction of natural barriers such as wetlands and mangroves also affects the ability of places to deal with these events as well ... but in any case - we are definitely seeing an increase in extreme weather as the planet tries to compensate for the warming ...0 -
Yes, there have always been monsoons and typhoons etc, but large storms and extreme weather are directly correlated with warmer temperatures. These tropical storms feed off of warm ocean currents. We have seen the hottest year on record broken every year as temperatures have risen. This has meant there have been a higher abundance of storms and a higher severity which is a source for alarm.1970RR wrote:Havent there always been monsoons & typhoons in asia? Isnt it possible that higher death rates may be associated with larger populations in areas that traditionally experience these types of storms. The same can be said about hurricane damage in this country. With more & more high priced development along the coastlines, the cost in both lives and money is going to be higher than it was in previous decades.
Yes, higher death rates may have to do with more population, but the a higher intensity and frequency of storms may be a contributing factor.0 -
monkey spanker wrote:man, you all really get pi$$ed when a scientist refutes your baseless claims.
umm....are you saying this russian scientist speaks the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, but all those "other" scientists are just making things up....
yeah, that makes perfucked sense...0 -
While population numbers may contribute to the increase in death rates, they don't account for the increased average strength of recent storms.1970RR wrote:Havent there always been monsoons & typhoons in asia? Isnt it possible that higher death rates may be associated with larger populations in areas that traditionally experience these types of storms. The same can be said about hurricane damage in this country. With more & more high priced development along the coastlines, the cost in both lives and money is going to be higher than it was in previous decades.0 -
sliverstain wrote:So what you are saying is, this one report rubbishes the endless stream of data that proves climate change is real, is going to kill an awful lot of people?
You rubbish ALL evidence that shows this then?
IF so, you need help. IF not, why the fuck post an inane little article like this?
What about all the articles in the 70's stating we were heading for global cooling STAT?!?!?!?!?!
Nice that you call an article insane that you disagree with.
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You must be referring to the TIME issue. Yes, that was one poorly misguided article from a non-scientific publication. This is hardly conclusive evidence. There was no scientific concensus, global cooling was never a scientific "theory" and climate studies were more in their infancies. This hypothesis was quickly rejected. If it was in Science magazine or a similar credible scientific journal than your argument might have teeth.binauralsounds wrote:What about all the articles in the 70's stating we were heading for global cooling STAT?!?!?!?!?!
Nice that you call an article insane that you disagree with.
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sourdough wrote:You must be referring to the TIME issue. Yes, that was one poorly misguided article from a non-scientific publication. This is hardly conclusive evidence. There was no scientific concensus, global cooling was never a scientific "theory" and climate studies were more in their infancies. This hypothesis was quickly rejected. If it was in Science magazine or a similar credible scientific journal than your argument might have teeth.
No, not the article from TIME. I mean when I was younger, back in those days, all I heard was talk of global cooling especially after the severe harsh winters we had. Then along came global warming, and now, just the tip of global cooling seems to be getting talked about again. Honestly, I think these scientists are winging it. Half say one thing, the other group claim the other philosophy. Who REALLY knows?0 -
binauralsounds wrote:No, not the article from TIME. I mean when I was younger, back in those days, all I heard was talk of global cooling especially after the severe harsh winters we had. Then along came global warming, and now, just the tip of global cooling seems to be getting talked about again. Honestly, I think these scientists are winging it. Half say one thing, the other group claim the other philosophy. Who REALLY knows?
the fact that you are comparing what you heard as a kid to the stuff now pretty much indicates that you really haven't done the research on this ... like dude said - there was no global scientific consensus on that and it is pretty much only brought up by people who aren't interested in finding out about climate change ... its like a convenient excuse to ignore what is all around us right now ...0 -
Actually the debate about whether there is climate change is really over. You'd have a lot of difficulty finding a credible scientist (not employed by oil companies) that disputes that humans are having an effect on the future climate of our planet. Currently there are over 900 peer reviewd scientific journals regarding climate change with 0% of articles that doubt human involvment. That is a bit more than half. Never has there been even close to as strong of a concensus about cooling or any other climate hypothesisbinauralsounds wrote:Honestly, I think these scientists are winging it. Half say one thing, the other group claim the other philosophy. Who REALLY knows?0 -
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Whoa, calm down now. Let's not bring logic into this discussion. AlGore said this is happening so we must believe him. Remember, he invented this magical device we are communicating on so he knows what he is talking about.1970RR wrote:Havent there always been monsoons & typhoons in asia? Isnt it possible that higher death rates may be associated with larger populations in areas that traditionally experience these types of storms. The same can be said about hurricane damage in this country. With more & more high priced development along the coastlines, the cost in both lives and money is going to be higher than it was in previous decades.0
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