"Obama is an Arab"

fugawzi wrote:

Oh absolutely, I agree 110%. That's our mostly uninformed public though. Lump all the Muslims in with the extreme Islamic terrorists. You're right it's implying that if someone, anyone who is a Muslim must be a terrorist. It's a mixture of bigotry, stupidity, and hate. A lot of people can't tell the difference between Arab, Muslim, and Islamic terrorist.

and if we extrapolate this bullshit thinking, then since timothy mcveigh was christian, then every christian is a terrorist

MrBrian wrote:

Yeah but the sad part is, how it's considered a smear to call someone an arab or a muslim.

Then McCain, "no, he's a decent man", because you know, Arabs can't be decent I guess.

Apparently.

Sucks to be McCain right now. When it gets to a point where you have to actually defend your opponent, you've got some serious issues.

The Senator's first name, Barack, is a Swahili name that has its origins in the Arabic language. The original Arabic root of the name (B-R-K) means "blessed." In Arabic, the root word is used in many other phrases to denote blessings and to describe people who are blessed:

Mabruk! = "Congratulations!"
Barakallah feek = "May God bless you"
Barakah = blessings from God (feminine version of the name)

Senator Obama's middle name is Hussein, which was his grandfather's first name. The name, of Arabic origin, means "good" or "handsome one." It is common in Muslim cultures for children (both boys and girls) to have a middle name which directly connects them to their father or grandfather.
Senator Obama's surname is not uncommon among the Luo tribe, one of the three largest ethnic groups in Kenya. They speak the Dhoulou language.

http://islam.about.com/od/us2004election/f/obama.htm

DixieN wrote:

Class all around? It's racism all around. If you're of Arabic descent you can't be a decent man? Please. It's just more of the same from McCain. He can't even get his compliments in without that backhand from the previous century coming in.

Think you're on the same page here.

MrBrian wrote:

Yeah but the sad part is, how it's considered a smear to call someone an arab or a muslim.

Then McCain, "no, he's a decent man", because you know, Arabs can't be decent I guess.

lephty wrote:

Son: Barack Hussein Obama II (1961-present)

Father: Barack Hussein Obama (1936–1982)

i find it funny when Fox News defends its use of "Hussein" saying "I am just saying his full name" when in fact they are not. they are leaving off the fact that he is a II or Jr. depending on how you want to say it.

personally, i could care less what religion a candidate has. if he/she can prove to me that i think they are worthy, then i would vote for them. i really think there needs to be more separation of church and government. if i had to chose a candidate by religion, it would be agnostic!

Quoted for truth.

dharma69 wrote:

Fox? Fox as a whole?

A little too general there because I've seen plenty of Fox broadcasts when the anchor has criticized the Right's tendency to use Obama's middle name, not defended it.

i tend to blame most of the spins/distortions that i hear people repeating on Fox News... it is very generalized, i am sure there are people on that network trying to report news as news but they seem to be in the minority.

MrBrian wrote:

Anyone see that McCain rally? One of his supporters had the mic and said to McCain "I can't trust Obama, he's an Arab...right?"...and the McCain reply? "No, no, He's a decent man" and continued saying something like a family man.

Class all around,

All of a sudden, boom, it's a narcotic and it's outlawed by FDA. What
is the initial response of all these grey-haired fathers of psychiatry
to making LSD an illegal substance? Protest, it's a bad thing, it's
robbing us of a powerful psychotherapeutic agent, it's crippling our
research efforts. These guys were hung out to dry. They were used by
Intelligence Agencies to gather therapeutic use of LSD, interrogation
use of LSD, psychotomenitic (sp) use of LSD and then when they had done
their job, LSD was just cancelled from academia. It was made illegal,
and then a whole disinformation campaign went along with that whereby
LSD was transformed from this wonderful therapeutic agent whose use was
advocated by the major leading figures in psychiatry into this horrible
thing that made children jump out of windows and bust up their
chromosomes. It's called a "disinformation campaign". And it caught the
leaders of psychiatry totally by su rprise, which is hard to believe
since psychiatrists are such clever political strategists in general.
What about this whole creating Manchurian Candidate stuff which we see
now for a fact has been going on since WWII? And according to
Estabrooks, even back to WWI? We now have established for a proven fact
that was going on during WWII, and the CIA was working on it in
Artichoke and Bluebird from 1951-53. The Korean War only started in
1950. The disinformation was that our boys went overseas there, they
got shot down, they got captured, the Communist Chinese worked on them
with these strange techniques we don't understand. The person who coined
the term "brainwashing" in a book was Edwin Hunter. He's a career CIA
officer. This was a term coined by the CIA to explain what was happening
to our boys in North Korea who were making bold statements about germ
warfare activities they had been involved in. Now it could be that part
of the Communist brainwashing strategy was to talk to these guys about
the ethical improprieties of biological warfare and bombing they
actually had been doing in North Korea. In any rate, they come home as
Manchurian Candidates. We are all bent out of shape because our boys are
talking Communism, so we say that we have got to start studying this
reactively and defensively because of what the Commies are doing. That
is the disinformation myth that has been adhered to by the Military
Intelligence community steadfastly from the Korean War to the present.
It's totally bullshit. It's disinformation. It's not a fact. It's a
made up story to cover up the fact that actually we had operational
offensive use of this psychological warfare technology already in place
in WWII. We have a major disinformation campaign which has basically
fooled mental health professions and the general public concerning
brainwashing, concerning LSD. Fortunately those are the only two
examples in human history. This analysis does not apply to the False
Memory movement. There is no way it could conceivably be possible, you
will all agree, that there could be any nervousness in the Intelligence
Community about Manchurian Candidates spilling out into civilian
psychotherapies and that a disinformation program based on False
Memories would be required. It is obviously absurd. Nobody but a CIA
conspiracy nut would ever suggest that. I guarantee you that that
thought has never even crossed my mind until it just spontaneously
appeared at this moment. So you see, actually, in fact, the idea that
there could be a deliberate disinformation campaign element to the False
Memory movement is perfectly plausible, consistent with history, and
could be expected. There is bound to be some sort of disinformation
strategy if in fact Manchurian Candidates have been leaking out into
civilian psychotherapy. So here we have, with all of this
documentation, all of this proof ... we know that it is perfectly
possible that people we are seeing in therapy who are claiming to be
victims of systematic military mind control experimentation are telling
us about what actually happened to them. However, I am not a single
step further ahead than I was four years ago on actually documenting
that any single patient in treatment actually in fact was involved in
these mind control experiments. There is no linkage at all from the
current patients in treatment to this documentation. So whether we are
ever going to get that or not, I don't know. (From audience: Mind
Control and the Military can be found on America On-Line on the internet
- "On Psych"-and there are websites). Apparently there is a lot of
information about this on the web and on internet and AOl and elsewhere.
But the problem is, I don't go to chat rooms very often, but most of it
is totally banal, and silly and boring and a waste of time. So when you
go into the stuff on mind control, how much is garbage that you are
going to get, and how much is solid stuff that you can pursue and
document are you going to get is my question. I have no idea what the
answer is. But, as we all know, the truth is out there. (From the
audience: "how would I go about documenting that a patient I, or
somebody else, currently has in treatment, in fact was involved in that
kind of experimentation?") Well, here's how the documentation has gone
so far. By the way, I have done Freedom of Information Act requests on
MONARCH at all Intelligence Agencies, and they have all denied it
exists. The patient apparently has no source of contamination for
specific MONARCH memories, but has the word Monarch in her mind, and has
very specific detailed Monarch-type mind control memories. Her father
basically abused her domestically and ritualistically, and then took her
over to the mind control people. How she got there, what the transport
mechanism was .. plane, car, location is all vague because she appears
to have been all drugged out then transported. Is it possible that her
father could have been this kind of person? Well, I have his military
service records which I got through the Freedom of Informatiion Act, I
have a lette r from him in prison where he is imprisoned for mob crime
connections, I've got a mother and a sister corroborating the domestic
incest, the sister with some patchy corroboration of ritualistic and
mind control memories, I've got the father personally connected to Jack
Ruby. That's as far as it goes. It's sort of circumstantial and
intriguing. So the way I would attempt to document it would be if the
person tells me (most people can't tell you the specific name of the
doctor) but if somebody gives you a specific name of a doctor, and gives
you a specific location, and you can establish that this doctor actually
existed, and you can establish that in fact this doctor was a CIA
employee, and you can establish that this person's father was imprisoned
by the FBI as part of a Mafia raid by looking at the journal articles
that the patient has, then you are starting to get closer and closer. So
it is your basic investigative reporting type stuff. Name the specific
base. Okay what do yo u know about the base? How did you get there?
Tell me about some buildings? Tell me about personnel. Describe the
uniforms. What was used? And then if you can get another subject who
was there at the same time ... that's just the way it is. It is your
basic investigative reporting. Which is way beyond being a therapist.
There is no therapeutic obligation to do this. This is mega beyond duty
to take collateral history. So I don't think there is any mystery as to
how it would proceed. And it will proceed probably in the same way as
the history of declassified information since WWII. In about, I think
1988, stuff was released to the Senate and the Congress and then to the
Press about all these radiation experiments. Nobody did anything. It
didn't even get into the newspapers. It was in the public domain for
five years before it finally hits the newspapers. Now we've got this
government report that is 900 pages long on all the radiation
experiments, including giving radiation to children and radiation to
pregnant mothers and the children of those pregnancies dying of leukemia
by age five. This is huge, big stuff. Everybody was apathetic, didn't
think it was newsworthy, didn 't even put it as a little trailer item in
the New York Ti mes. This is no longer vague. We know the specific
names of people, when they died, whether it was plutonium or whatever
was injected, the names of the doctors, the names of the medical schools
where it was done, it's all keyed up for compensation, the government
has set up a whole compensation mechanism. If we look at the Tuscagee
Syphilis Study ... it is worse than the creation of Manchurian
Candidates. It was set up in Tuscagee, Alabama in the 1940's. The
experiment is-you've got 400 rural, dirt-poor black guys with active
syphilis and 400 controls. These people are followed without treatment
into the 1970's. The people who are involved in the Tuscagee Syphilis
Study (it is a huge long list and I can't remember all the details of
it) but it includes the County Medical Society, the administration of
the study was actually taken over by the Centre of Disease Control, the
Surgeon General, the American Heart Association, all kinds of people
were witting, knowledgeable and awar e of the study and ap proved its
ongoing nature well into the 60's and into the 70's, in complete
violation of all known medical ethics. Well okay, that was kept kind of
secret. Nobody heard about it except some of these medical bigwigs. No.
I have a medical paper from the medical school published in 1965 called
"Untreated Syphilis in a Male Negro - A 20 year follow-up". This stuff
is published, right in the medical literature. It is looking everybody
right in the face. What happens when you have 400 illiterate rural
black guys with active syphilis untreated, for 40 years? Well, the
outcome of the experiment is, you will be very surprised to hear, they
don't do too well, they develop a lot of disease, and they die young.
They do another thing. They breathe air. There is another behaviour
that we can predict in these guys. They eat food. Going down the list?
They urinate and defecate. Continuing along with basic human functions,
they have sexual intercourse with women. Anybody who has been to medical
school will tell you it is 100% guaranteed that if you take 400 black
guys with syphil is and do not treat them, the rest of t heir lives, you
are guaranteed to be creating cases of congenital syphilis. The entire
medical community knows this as an elementary fact that you learn in
first year medical school, it is published in the medical literature,
and it's condoned by all levels of the old boys network in world
medicine. This is totally unbelievable and completely factual. This
Manchurian Candidate stuff is like Mickey Mouse Psych stuff. It's not
even heavy duty. The nurse who was the head of the Tuscagee Syphilis
study throughout its duration, actually got an award from the Public
Health Service because of her work on the Tuscagee Syphilis Study. The
individual guys have gone and testified at the Senate. You can read the
book, "Bad Blood" and these guys are named as individual human beings.
Which individual human beings who are victims of military mind control
research do we already know? Harold Blauer, the tennis pro who was
killed. Frank Olson who was killed because he jumped through a window
because he took LSD mixed with Cointro by Sidney Gottlieb

MrBrian wrote:

Anyone see that McCain rally? One of his supporters had the mic and said to McCain "I can't trust Obama, he's an Arab...right?"...and the McCain reply? "No, no, He's a decent man" and continued saying something like a family man.

Class all around,

All of a sudden, boom, it's a narcotic and it's outlawed by FDA. What
is the initial response of all these grey-haired fathers of psychiatry
to making LSD an illegal substance? Protest, it's a bad thing, it's
robbing us of a powerful psychotherapeutic agent, it's crippling our
research efforts. These guys were hung out to dry. They were used by
Intelligence Agencies to gather therapeutic use of LSD, interrogation
use of LSD, psychotomenitic (sp) use of LSD and then when they had done
their job, LSD was just cancelled from academia. It was made illegal,
and then a whole disinformation campaign went along with that whereby
LSD was transformed from this wonderful therapeutic agent whose use was
advocated by the major leading figures in psychiatry into this horrible
thing that made children jump out of windows and bust up their
chromosomes. It's called a "disinformation campaign". And it caught the
leaders of psychiatry totally by su rprise, which is hard to believe
since psychiatrists are such clever political strategists in general.
What about this whole creating Manchurian Candidate stuff which we see
now for a fact has been going on since WWII? And according to
Estabrooks, even back to WWI? We now have established for a proven fact
that was going on during WWII, and the CIA was working on it in
Artichoke and Bluebird from 1951-53. The Korean War only started in
1950. The disinformation was that our boys went overseas there, they
got shot down, they got captured, the Communist Chinese worked on them
with these strange techniques we don't understand. The person who coined
the term "brainwashing" in a book was Edwin Hunter. He's a career CIA
officer. This was a term coined by the CIA to explain what was happening
to our boys in North Korea who were making bold statements about germ
warfare activities they had been involved in. Now it could be that part
of the Communist brainwashing strategy was to talk to these guys about
the ethical improprieties of biological warfare and bombing they
actually had been doing in North Korea. In any rate, they come home as
Manchurian Candidates. We are all bent out of shape because our boys are
talking Communism, so we say that we have got to start studying this
reactively and defensively because of what the Commies are doing. That
is the disinformation myth that has been adhered to by the Military
Intelligence community steadfastly from the Korean War to the present.
It's totally bullshit. It's disinformation. It's not a fact. It's a
made up story to cover up the fact that actually we had operational
offensive use of this psychological warfare technology already in place
in WWII. We have a major disinformation campaign which has basically
fooled mental health professions and the general public concerning
brainwashing, concerning LSD. Fortunately those are the only two
examples in human history. This analysis does not apply to the False
Memory movement. There is no way it could conceivably be possible, you
will all agree, that there could be any nervousness in the Intelligence
Community about Manchurian Candidates spilling out into civilian
psychotherapies and that a disinformation program based on False
Memories would be required. It is obviously absurd. Nobody but a CIA
conspiracy nut would ever suggest that. I guarantee you that that
thought has never even crossed my mind until it just spontaneously
appeared at this moment. So you see, actually, in fact, the idea that
there could be a deliberate disinformation campaign element to the False
Memory movement is perfectly plausible, consistent with history, and
could be expected. There is bound to be some sort of disinformation
strategy if in fact Manchurian Candidates have been leaking out into
civilian psychotherapy. So here we have, with all of this
documentation, all of this proof ... we know that it is perfectly
possible that people we are seeing in therapy who are claiming to be
victims of systematic military mind control experimentation are telling
us about what actually happened to them. However, I am not a single
step further ahead than I was four years ago on actually documenting
that any single patient in treatment actually in fact was involved in
these mind control experiments. There is no linkage at all from the
current patients in treatment to this documentation. So whether we are
ever going to get that or not, I don't know. (From audience: Mind
Control and the Military can be found on America On-Line on the internet
- "On Psych"-and there are websites). Apparently there is a lot of
information about this on the web and on internet and AOl and elsewhere.
But the problem is, I don't go to chat rooms very often, but most of it
is totally banal, and silly and boring and a waste of time. So when you
go into the stuff on mind control, how much is garbage that you are
going to get, and how much is solid stuff that you can pursue and
document are you going to get is my question. I have no idea what the
answer is. But, as we all know, the truth is out there. (From the
audience: "how would I go about documenting that a patient I, or
somebody else, currently has in treatment, in fact was involved in that
kind of experimentation?") Well, here's how the documentation has gone
so far. By the way, I have done Freedom of Information Act requests on
MONARCH at all Intelligence Agencies, and they have all denied it
exists. The patient apparently has no source of contamination for
specific MONARCH memories, but has the word Monarch in her mind, and has
very specific detailed Monarch-type mind control memories. Her father
basically abused her domestically and ritualistically, and then took her
over to the mind control people. How she got there, what the transport
mechanism was .. plane, car, location is all vague because she appears
to have been all drugged out then transported. Is it possible that her
father could have been this kind of person? Well, I have his military
service records which I got through the Freedom of Informatiion Act, I
have a lette r from him in prison where he is imprisoned for mob crime
connections, I've got a mother and a sister corroborating the domestic
incest, the sister with some patchy corroboration of ritualistic and
mind control memories, I've got the father personally connected to Jack
Ruby. That's as far as it goes. It's sort of circumstantial and
intriguing. So the way I would attempt to document it would be if the
person tells me (most people can't tell you the specific name of the
doctor) but if somebody gives you a specific name of a doctor, and gives
you a specific location, and you can establish that this doctor actually
existed, and you can establish that in fact this doctor was a CIA
employee, and you can establish that this person's father was imprisoned
by the FBI as part of a Mafia raid by looking at the journal articles
that the patient has, then you are starting to get closer and closer. So
it is your basic investigative reporting type stuff. Name the specific
base. Okay what do yo u know about the base? How did you get there?
Tell me about some buildings? Tell me about personnel. Describe the
uniforms. What was used? And then if you can get another subject who
was there at the same time ... that's just the way it is. It is your
basic investigative reporting. Which is way beyond being a therapist.
There is no therapeutic obligation to do this. This is mega beyond duty
to take collateral history. So I don't think there is any mystery as to
how it would proceed. And it will proceed probably in the same way as
the history of declassified information since WWII. In about, I think
1988, stuff was released to the Senate and the Congress and then to the
Press about all these radiation experiments. Nobody did anything. It
didn't even get into the newspapers. It was in the public domain for
five years before it finally hits the newspapers. Now we've got this
government report that is 900 pages long on all the radiation
experiments, including giving radiation to children and radiation to
pregnant mothers and the children of those pregnancies dying of leukemia
by age five. This is huge, big stuff. Everybody was apathetic, didn't
think it was newsworthy, didn 't even put it as a little trailer item in
the New York Ti mes. This is no longer vague. We know the specific
names of people, when they died, whether it was plutonium or whatever
was injected, the names of the doctors, the names of the medical schools
where it was done, it's all keyed up for compensation, the government
has set up a whole compensation mechanism. If we look at the Tuscagee
Syphilis Study ... it is worse than the creation of Manchurian
Candidates. It was set up in Tuscagee, Alabama in the 1940's. The
experiment is-you've got 400 rural, dirt-poor black guys with active
syphilis and 400 controls. These people are followed without treatment
into the 1970's. The people who are involved in the Tuscagee Syphilis
Study (it is a huge long list and I can't remember all the details of
it) but it includes the County Medical Society, the administration of
the study was actually taken over by the Centre of Disease Control, the
Surgeon General, the American Heart Association, all kinds of people
were witting, knowledgeable and awar e of the study and ap proved its
ongoing nature well into the 60's and into the 70's, in complete
violation of all known medical ethics. Well okay, that was kept kind of
secret. Nobody heard about it except some of these medical bigwigs. No.
I have a medical paper from the medical school published in 1965 called
"Untreated Syphilis in a Male Negro - A 20 year follow-up". This stuff
is published, right in the medical literature. It is looking everybody
right in the face. What happens when you have 400 illiterate rural
black guys with active syphilis untreated, for 40 years? Well, the
outcome of the experiment is, you will be very surprised to hear, they
don't do too well, they develop a lot of disease, and they die young.
They do another thing. They breathe air. There is another behaviour
that we can predict in these guys. They eat food. Going down the list?
They urinate and defecate. Continuing along with basic human functions,
they have sexual intercourse with women. Anybody who has been to medical
school will tell you it is 100% guaranteed that if you take 400 black
guys with syphil is and do not treat them, the rest of t heir lives, you
are guaranteed to be creating cases of congenital syphilis. The entire
medical community knows this as an elementary fact that you learn in
first year medical school, it is published in the medical literature,
and it's condoned by all levels of the old boys network in world
medicine. This is totally unbelievable and completely factual. This
Manchurian Candidate stuff is like Mickey Mouse Psych stuff. It's not
even heavy duty. The nurse who was the head of the Tuscagee Syphilis
study throughout its duration, actually got an award from the Public
Health Service because of her work on the Tuscagee Syphilis Study. The
individual guys have gone and testified at the Senate. You can read the
book, "Bad Blood" and these guys are named as individual human beings.
Which individual human beings who are victims of military mind control
research do we already know? Harold Blauer, the tennis pro who was
killed. Frank Olson who was killed because he jumped through a window
because he took LSD mixed with Cointro by Sidney Gottlieb

Continuation ...... these guys corner her and ask her about her comments .... the lady that comes over at the end of theinterview (I think) is Dana Bash from CNN ... perhaps this story is far form done, as the old woman claims to have worked at a McCain support center, and sent out letters backing her "arab" claim ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nSdNVFoAMw&feature=related