"Obama is an Arab"

MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
edited October 2008 in A Moving Train
Anyone see that McCain rally? One of his supporters had the mic and said to McCain "I can't trust Obama, he's an Arab...right?"...and the McCain reply? "No, no, He's a decent man" and continued saying something like a family man.

Class all around,
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  • fugawzifugawzi Posts: 879
    MrBrian wrote:
    Anyone see that McCain rally? One of his supporters had the mic and said to McCain "I can't trust Obama, he's an Arab...right?"...and the McCain reply? "No, no, He's a decent man" and continued saying something like a family man.

    Class all around,

    How about the people outside and inside his rallies screaming that he's a terrorist? These people are fucking psychos. Psychos who are clinging to smears because their candidate is getting his ass kicked on the real issues. Nothing new for Republicans to smear though, that's their style. They're behind and they know it, and they're desperate.
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  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Yeah but the sad part is, how it's considered a smear to call someone an arab or a muslim.

    Then McCain, "no, he's a decent man", because you know, Arabs can't be decent I guess.
  • fugawzifugawzi Posts: 879
    MrBrian wrote:
    Yeah but the sad part is, how it's considered a smear to call someone an arab or a muslim.

    Then McCain, "no, he's a decent man", because you know, Arabs can't be decent I guess.

    Oh absolutely, I agree 110%. That's our mostly uninformed public though. Lump all the Muslims in with the extreme Islamic terrorists. You're right it's implying that if someone, anyone who is a Muslim must be a terrorist. It's a mixture of bigotry, stupidity, and hate. A lot of people can't tell the difference between Arab, Muslim, and Islamic terrorist.
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    fugawzi wrote:
    Oh absolutely, I agree 110%. That's our mostly uninformed public though. Lump all the Muslims in with the extreme Islamic terrorists. You're right it's implying that if someone, anyone who is a Muslim must be a terrorist. It's a mixture of bigotry, stupidity, and hate. A lot of people can't tell the difference between Arab, Muslim, and Islamic terrorist.

    and if we extrapolate this bullshit thinking, then since timothy mcveigh was christian, then every christian is a terrorist
  • fugawzifugawzi Posts: 879
    cutback wrote:
    and if we extrapolate this bullshit thinking, then since timothy mcveigh was christian, then every christian is a terrorist

    Every Christian isn't a terrorist?
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  • dharma69dharma69 Posts: 1,275
    MrBrian wrote:
    Yeah but the sad part is, how it's considered a smear to call someone an arab or a muslim.

    Then McCain, "no, he's a decent man", because you know, Arabs can't be decent I guess.
    Apparently.

    Sucks to be McCain right now. When it gets to a point where you have to actually defend your opponent, you've got some serious issues.
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  • brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    fugawzi wrote:
    Every Christian isn't a terrorist?


    Nice. My first laugh of the day.
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    The Senator's first name, Barack, is a Swahili name that has its origins in the Arabic language. The original Arabic root of the name (B-R-K) means "blessed." In Arabic, the root word is used in many other phrases to denote blessings and to describe people who are blessed:

    Mabruk! = "Congratulations!"
    Barakallah feek = "May God bless you"
    Barakah = blessings from God (feminine version of the name)

    Senator Obama's middle name is Hussein, which was his grandfather's first name. The name, of Arabic origin, means "good" or "handsome one." It is common in Muslim cultures for children (both boys and girls) to have a middle name which directly connects them to their father or grandfather.
    Senator Obama's surname is not uncommon among the Luo tribe, one of the three largest ethnic groups in Kenya. They speak the Dhoulou language.

    http://islam.about.com/od/us2004election/f/obama.htm
  • DixieNDixieN Posts: 351
    MrBrian wrote:
    Anyone see that McCain rally? One of his supporters had the mic and said to McCain "I can't trust Obama, he's an Arab...right?"...and the McCain reply? "No, no, He's a decent man" and continued saying something like a family man.

    Class all around,

    Class all around? It's racism all around. If you're of Arabic descent you can't be a decent man? Please. It's just more of the same from McCain. He can't even get his compliments in without that backhand from the previous century coming in.
  • DixieN wrote:
    Class all around? It's racism all around. If you're of Arabic descent you can't be a decent man? Please. It's just more of the same from McCain. He can't even get his compliments in without that backhand from the previous century coming in.

    Think you're on the same page here.
    MrBrian wrote:
    Yeah but the sad part is, how it's considered a smear to call someone an arab or a muslim.

    Then McCain, "no, he's a decent man", because you know, Arabs can't be decent I guess.
  • lephtylephty Posts: 770
    Son: Barack Hussein Obama II (1961-present)

    Father: Barack Hussein Obama (1936–1982)

    i find it funny when Fox News defends its use of "Hussein" saying "I am just saying his full name" when in fact they are not. they are leaving off the fact that he is a II or Jr. depending on how you want to say it.

    personally, i could care less what religion a candidate has. if he/she can prove to me that i think they are worthy, then i would vote for them. i really think there needs to be more separation of church and government. if i had to chose a candidate by religion, it would be agnostic!
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    lephty wrote:
    Son: Barack Hussein Obama II (1961-present)

    Father: Barack Hussein Obama (1936–1982)

    i find it funny when Fox News defends its use of "Hussein" saying "I am just saying his full name" when in fact they are not. they are leaving off the fact that he is a II or Jr. depending on how you want to say it.

    personally, i could care less what religion a candidate has. if he/she can prove to me that i think they are worthy, then i would vote for them. i really think there needs to be more separation of church and government. if i had to chose a candidate by religion, it would be agnostic!
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  • dharma69dharma69 Posts: 1,275
    lephty wrote:
    Son: Barack Hussein Obama II (1961-present)

    Father: Barack Hussein Obama (1936–1982)

    i find it funny when Fox News defends its use of "Hussein" saying "I am just saying his full name" when in fact they are not. they are leaving off the fact that he is a II or Jr. depending on how you want to say it.
    Fox? Fox as a whole?

    A little too general there because I've seen plenty of Fox broadcasts when the anchor has criticized the Right's tendency to use Obama's middle name, not defended it.
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  • lephtylephty Posts: 770
    dharma69 wrote:
    Fox? Fox as a whole?

    A little too general there because I've seen plenty of Fox broadcasts when the anchor has criticized the Right's tendency to use Obama's middle name, not defended it.

    i tend to blame most of the spins/distortions that i hear people repeating on Fox News... it is very generalized, i am sure there are people on that network trying to report news as news but they seem to be in the minority.
  • ccRyderzzccRyderzz Posts: 163
    MrBrian wrote:
    Anyone see that McCain rally? One of his supporters had the mic and said to McCain "I can't trust Obama, he's an Arab...right?"...and the McCain reply? "No, no, He's a decent man" and continued saying something like a family man.

    Class all around,
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  • ccRyderzzccRyderzz Posts: 163
    MrBrian wrote:
    Anyone see that McCain rally? One of his supporters had the mic and said to McCain "I can't trust Obama, he's an Arab...right?"...and the McCain reply? "No, no, He's a decent man" and continued saying something like a family man.

    Class all around,
    All of a sudden, boom, it's a narcotic and it's outlawed by FDA. What
    is the initial response of all these grey-haired fathers of psychiatry
    to making LSD an illegal substance? Protest, it's a bad thing, it's
    robbing us of a powerful psychotherapeutic agent, it's crippling our
    research efforts. These guys were hung out to dry. They were used by
    Intelligence Agencies to gather therapeutic use of LSD, interrogation
    use of LSD, psychotomenitic (sp) use of LSD and then when they had done
    their job, LSD was just cancelled from academia. It was made illegal,
    and then a whole disinformation campaign went along with that whereby
    LSD was transformed from this wonderful therapeutic agent whose use was
    advocated by the major leading figures in psychiatry into this horrible
    thing that made children jump out of windows and bust up their
    chromosomes. It's called a "disinformation campaign". And it caught the
    leaders of psychiatry totally by su rprise, which is hard to believe
    since psychiatrists are such clever political strategists in general.
    What about this whole creating Manchurian Candidate stuff which we see
    now for a fact has been going on since WWII? And according to
    Estabrooks, even back to WWI? We now have established for a proven fact
    that was going on during WWII, and the CIA was working on it in
    Artichoke and Bluebird from 1951-53. The Korean War only started in
    1950. The disinformation was that our boys went overseas there, they
    got shot down, they got captured, the Communist Chinese worked on them
    with these strange techniques we don't understand. The person who coined
    the term "brainwashing" in a book was Edwin Hunter. He's a career CIA
    officer. This was a term coined by the CIA to explain what was happening
    to our boys in North Korea who were making bold statements about germ
    warfare activities they had been involved in. Now it could be that part
    of the Communist brainwashing strategy was to talk to these guys about
    the ethical improprieties of biological warfare and bombing they
    actually had been doing in North Korea. In any rate, they come home as
    Manchurian Candidates. We are all bent out of shape because our boys are
    talking Communism, so we say that we have got to start studying this
    reactively and defensively because of what the Commies are doing. That
    is the disinformation myth that has been adhered to by the Military
    Intelligence community steadfastly from the Korean War to the present.
    It's totally bullshit. It's disinformation. It's not a fact. It's a
    made up story to cover up the fact that actually we had operational
    offensive use of this psychological warfare technology already in place
    in WWII. We have a major disinformation campaign which has basically
    fooled mental health professions and the general public concerning
    brainwashing, concerning LSD. Fortunately those are the only two
    examples in human history. This analysis does not apply to the False
    Memory movement. There is no way it could conceivably be possible, you
    will all agree, that there could be any nervousness in the Intelligence
    Community about Manchurian Candidates spilling out into civilian
    psychotherapies and that a disinformation program based on False
    Memories would be required. It is obviously absurd. Nobody but a CIA
    conspiracy nut would ever suggest that. I guarantee you that that
    thought has never even crossed my mind until it just spontaneously
    appeared at this moment. So you see, actually, in fact, the idea that
    there could be a deliberate disinformation campaign element to the False
    Memory movement is perfectly plausible, consistent with history, and
    could be expected. There is bound to be some sort of disinformation
    strategy if in fact Manchurian Candidates have been leaking out into
    civilian psychotherapy. So here we have, with all of this
    documentation, all of this proof ... we know that it is perfectly
    possible that people we are seeing in therapy who are claiming to be
    victims of systematic military mind control experimentation are telling
    us about what actually happened to them. However, I am not a single
    step further ahead than I was four years ago on actually documenting
    that any single patient in treatment actually in fact was involved in
    these mind control experiments. There is no linkage at all from the
    current patients in treatment to this documentation. So whether we are
    ever going to get that or not, I don't know. (From audience: Mind
    Control and the Military can be found on America On-Line on the internet
    - "On Psych"-and there are websites). Apparently there is a lot of
    information about this on the web and on internet and AOl and elsewhere.
    But the problem is, I don't go to chat rooms very often, but most of it
    is totally banal, and silly and boring and a waste of time. So when you
    go into the stuff on mind control, how much is garbage that you are
    going to get, and how much is solid stuff that you can pursue and
    document are you going to get is my question. I have no idea what the
    answer is. But, as we all know, the truth is out there. (From the
    audience: "how would I go about documenting that a patient I, or
    somebody else, currently has in treatment, in fact was involved in that
    kind of experimentation?") Well, here's how the documentation has gone
    so far. By the way, I have done Freedom of Information Act requests on
    MONARCH at all Intelligence Agencies, and they have all denied it
    exists. The patient apparently has no source of contamination for
    specific MONARCH memories, but has the word Monarch in her mind, and has
    very specific detailed Monarch-type mind control memories. Her father
    basically abused her domestically and ritualistically, and then took her
    over to the mind control people. How she got there, what the transport
    mechanism was .. plane, car, location is all vague because she appears
    to have been all drugged out then transported. Is it possible that her
    father could have been this kind of person? Well, I have his military
    service records which I got through the Freedom of Informatiion Act, I
    have a lette r from him in prison where he is imprisoned for mob crime
    connections, I've got a mother and a sister corroborating the domestic
    incest, the sister with some patchy corroboration of ritualistic and
    mind control memories, I've got the father personally connected to Jack
    Ruby. That's as far as it goes. It's sort of circumstantial and
    intriguing. So the way I would attempt to document it would be if the
    person tells me (most people can't tell you the specific name of the
    doctor) but if somebody gives you a specific name of a doctor, and gives
    you a specific location, and you can establish that this doctor actually
    existed, and you can establish that in fact this doctor was a CIA
    employee, and you can establish that this person's father was imprisoned
    by the FBI as part of a Mafia raid by looking at the journal articles
    that the patient has, then you are starting to get closer and closer. So
    it is your basic investigative reporting type stuff. Name the specific
    base. Okay what do yo u know about the base? How did you get there?
    Tell me about some buildings? Tell me about personnel. Describe the
    uniforms. What was used? And then if you can get another subject who
    was there at the same time ... that's just the way it is. It is your
    basic investigative reporting. Which is way beyond being a therapist.
    There is no therapeutic obligation to do this. This is mega beyond duty
    to take collateral history. So I don't think there is any mystery as to
    how it would proceed. And it will proceed probably in the same way as
    the history of declassified information since WWII. In about, I think
    1988, stuff was released to the Senate and the Congress and then to the
    Press about all these radiation experiments. Nobody did anything. It
    didn't even get into the newspapers. It was in the public domain for
    five years before it finally hits the newspapers. Now we've got this
    government report that is 900 pages long on all the radiation
    experiments, including giving radiation to children and radiation to
    pregnant mothers and the children of those pregnancies dying of leukemia
    by age five. This is huge, big stuff. Everybody was apathetic, didn't
    think it was newsworthy, didn 't even put it as a little trailer item in
    the New York Ti mes. This is no longer vague. We know the specific
    names of people, when they died, whether it was plutonium or whatever
    was injected, the names of the doctors, the names of the medical schools
    where it was done, it's all keyed up for compensation, the government
    has set up a whole compensation mechanism. If we look at the Tuscagee
    Syphilis Study ... it is worse than the creation of Manchurian
    Candidates. It was set up in Tuscagee, Alabama in the 1940's. The
    experiment is-you've got 400 rural, dirt-poor black guys with active
    syphilis and 400 controls. These people are followed without treatment
    into the 1970's. The people who are involved in the Tuscagee Syphilis
    Study (it is a huge long list and I can't remember all the details of
    it) but it includes the County Medical Society, the administration of
    the study was actually taken over by the Centre of Disease Control, the
    Surgeon General, the American Heart Association, all kinds of people
    were witting, knowledgeable and awar e of the study and ap proved its
    ongoing nature well into the 60's and into the 70's, in complete
    violation of all known medical ethics. Well okay, that was kept kind of
    secret. Nobody heard about it except some of these medical bigwigs. No.
    I have a medical paper from the medical school published in 1965 called
    "Untreated Syphilis in a Male Negro - A 20 year follow-up". This stuff
    is published, right in the medical literature. It is looking everybody
    right in the face. What happens when you have 400 illiterate rural
    black guys with active syphilis untreated, for 40 years? Well, the
    outcome of the experiment is, you will be very surprised to hear, they
    don't do too well, they develop a lot of disease, and they die young.
    They do another thing. They breathe air. There is another behaviour
    that we can predict in these guys. They eat food. Going down the list?
    They urinate and defecate. Continuing along with basic human functions,
    they have sexual intercourse with women. Anybody who has been to medical
    school will tell you it is 100% guaranteed that if you take 400 black
    guys with syphil is and do not treat them, the rest of t heir lives, you
    are guaranteed to be creating cases of congenital syphilis. The entire
    medical community knows this as an elementary fact that you learn in
    first year medical school, it is published in the medical literature,
    and it's condoned by all levels of the old boys network in world
    medicine. This is totally unbelievable and completely factual. This
    Manchurian Candidate stuff is like Mickey Mouse Psych stuff. It's not
    even heavy duty. The nurse who was the head of the Tuscagee Syphilis
    study throughout its duration, actually got an award from the Public
    Health Service because of her work on the Tuscagee Syphilis Study. The
    individual guys have gone and testified at the Senate. You can read the
    book, "Bad Blood" and these guys are named as individual human beings.
    Which individual human beings who are victims of military mind control
    research do we already know? Harold Blauer, the tennis pro who was
    killed. Frank Olson who was killed because he jumped through a window
    because he took LSD mixed with Cointro by Sidney Gottlieb
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    DixieN wrote:
    Class all around? It's racism all around. If you're of Arabic descent you can't be a decent man? Please. It's just more of the same from McCain. He can't even get his compliments in without that backhand from the previous century coming in.

    I don't know. Maybe you're over analyzing this.

    I agree with MrBrain that it's sad that arab or muslim are considered bad things.

    But maybe McCain just said 'No, he's not an Arab. And you can trust him, he's a decent guy."

    That doesn't mean he thinks Arabs can't be decent guys.
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  • ccRyderzzccRyderzz Posts: 163
    MrBrian wrote:
    Anyone see that McCain rally? One of his supporters had the mic and said to McCain "I can't trust Obama, he's an Arab...right?"...and the McCain reply? "No, no, He's a decent man" and continued saying something like a family man.

    Class all around,
    All of a sudden, boom, it's a narcotic and it's outlawed by FDA. What
    is the initial response of all these grey-haired fathers of psychiatry
    to making LSD an illegal substance? Protest, it's a bad thing, it's
    robbing us of a powerful psychotherapeutic agent, it's crippling our
    research efforts. These guys were hung out to dry. They were used by
    Intelligence Agencies to gather therapeutic use of LSD, interrogation
    use of LSD, psychotomenitic (sp) use of LSD and then when they had done
    their job, LSD was just cancelled from academia. It was made illegal,
    and then a whole disinformation campaign went along with that whereby
    LSD was transformed from this wonderful therapeutic agent whose use was
    advocated by the major leading figures in psychiatry into this horrible
    thing that made children jump out of windows and bust up their
    chromosomes. It's called a "disinformation campaign". And it caught the
    leaders of psychiatry totally by su rprise, which is hard to believe
    since psychiatrists are such clever political strategists in general.
    What about this whole creating Manchurian Candidate stuff which we see
    now for a fact has been going on since WWII? And according to
    Estabrooks, even back to WWI? We now have established for a proven fact
    that was going on during WWII, and the CIA was working on it in
    Artichoke and Bluebird from 1951-53. The Korean War only started in
    1950. The disinformation was that our boys went overseas there, they
    got shot down, they got captured, the Communist Chinese worked on them
    with these strange techniques we don't understand. The person who coined
    the term "brainwashing" in a book was Edwin Hunter. He's a career CIA
    officer. This was a term coined by the CIA to explain what was happening
    to our boys in North Korea who were making bold statements about germ
    warfare activities they had been involved in. Now it could be that part
    of the Communist brainwashing strategy was to talk to these guys about
    the ethical improprieties of biological warfare and bombing they
    actually had been doing in North Korea. In any rate, they come home as
    Manchurian Candidates. We are all bent out of shape because our boys are
    talking Communism, so we say that we have got to start studying this
    reactively and defensively because of what the Commies are doing. That
    is the disinformation myth that has been adhered to by the Military
    Intelligence community steadfastly from the Korean War to the present.
    It's totally bullshit. It's disinformation. It's not a fact. It's a
    made up story to cover up the fact that actually we had operational
    offensive use of this psychological warfare technology already in place
    in WWII. We have a major disinformation campaign which has basically
    fooled mental health professions and the general public concerning
    brainwashing, concerning LSD. Fortunately those are the only two
    examples in human history. This analysis does not apply to the False
    Memory movement. There is no way it could conceivably be possible, you
    will all agree, that there could be any nervousness in the Intelligence
    Community about Manchurian Candidates spilling out into civilian
    psychotherapies and that a disinformation program based on False
    Memories would be required. It is obviously absurd. Nobody but a CIA
    conspiracy nut would ever suggest that. I guarantee you that that
    thought has never even crossed my mind until it just spontaneously
    appeared at this moment. So you see, actually, in fact, the idea that
    there could be a deliberate disinformation campaign element to the False
    Memory movement is perfectly plausible, consistent with history, and
    could be expected. There is bound to be some sort of disinformation
    strategy if in fact Manchurian Candidates have been leaking out into
    civilian psychotherapy. So here we have, with all of this
    documentation, all of this proof ... we know that it is perfectly
    possible that people we are seeing in therapy who are claiming to be
    victims of systematic military mind control experimentation are telling
    us about what actually happened to them. However, I am not a single
    step further ahead than I was four years ago on actually documenting
    that any single patient in treatment actually in fact was involved in
    these mind control experiments. There is no linkage at all from the
    current patients in treatment to this documentation. So whether we are
    ever going to get that or not, I don't know. (From audience: Mind
    Control and the Military can be found on America On-Line on the internet
    - "On Psych"-and there are websites). Apparently there is a lot of
    information about this on the web and on internet and AOl and elsewhere.
    But the problem is, I don't go to chat rooms very often, but most of it
    is totally banal, and silly and boring and a waste of time. So when you
    go into the stuff on mind control, how much is garbage that you are
    going to get, and how much is solid stuff that you can pursue and
    document are you going to get is my question. I have no idea what the
    answer is. But, as we all know, the truth is out there. (From the
    audience: "how would I go about documenting that a patient I, or
    somebody else, currently has in treatment, in fact was involved in that
    kind of experimentation?") Well, here's how the documentation has gone
    so far. By the way, I have done Freedom of Information Act requests on
    MONARCH at all Intelligence Agencies, and they have all denied it
    exists. The patient apparently has no source of contamination for
    specific MONARCH memories, but has the word Monarch in her mind, and has
    very specific detailed Monarch-type mind control memories. Her father
    basically abused her domestically and ritualistically, and then took her
    over to the mind control people. How she got there, what the transport
    mechanism was .. plane, car, location is all vague because she appears
    to have been all drugged out then transported. Is it possible that her
    father could have been this kind of person? Well, I have his military
    service records which I got through the Freedom of Informatiion Act, I
    have a lette r from him in prison where he is imprisoned for mob crime
    connections, I've got a mother and a sister corroborating the domestic
    incest, the sister with some patchy corroboration of ritualistic and
    mind control memories, I've got the father personally connected to Jack
    Ruby. That's as far as it goes. It's sort of circumstantial and
    intriguing. So the way I would attempt to document it would be if the
    person tells me (most people can't tell you the specific name of the
    doctor) but if somebody gives you a specific name of a doctor, and gives
    you a specific location, and you can establish that this doctor actually
    existed, and you can establish that in fact this doctor was a CIA
    employee, and you can establish that this person's father was imprisoned
    by the FBI as part of a Mafia raid by looking at the journal articles
    that the patient has, then you are starting to get closer and closer. So
    it is your basic investigative reporting type stuff. Name the specific
    base. Okay what do yo u know about the base? How did you get there?
    Tell me about some buildings? Tell me about personnel. Describe the
    uniforms. What was used? And then if you can get another subject who
    was there at the same time ... that's just the way it is. It is your
    basic investigative reporting. Which is way beyond being a therapist.
    There is no therapeutic obligation to do this. This is mega beyond duty
    to take collateral history. So I don't think there is any mystery as to
    how it would proceed. And it will proceed probably in the same way as
    the history of declassified information since WWII. In about, I think
    1988, stuff was released to the Senate and the Congress and then to the
    Press about all these radiation experiments. Nobody did anything. It
    didn't even get into the newspapers. It was in the public domain for
    five years before it finally hits the newspapers. Now we've got this
    government report that is 900 pages long on all the radiation
    experiments, including giving radiation to children and radiation to
    pregnant mothers and the children of those pregnancies dying of leukemia
    by age five. This is huge, big stuff. Everybody was apathetic, didn't
    think it was newsworthy, didn 't even put it as a little trailer item in
    the New York Ti mes. This is no longer vague. We know the specific
    names of people, when they died, whether it was plutonium or whatever
    was injected, the names of the doctors, the names of the medical schools
    where it was done, it's all keyed up for compensation, the government
    has set up a whole compensation mechanism. If we look at the Tuscagee
    Syphilis Study ... it is worse than the creation of Manchurian
    Candidates. It was set up in Tuscagee, Alabama in the 1940's. The
    experiment is-you've got 400 rural, dirt-poor black guys with active
    syphilis and 400 controls. These people are followed without treatment
    into the 1970's. The people who are involved in the Tuscagee Syphilis
    Study (it is a huge long list and I can't remember all the details of
    it) but it includes the County Medical Society, the administration of
    the study was actually taken over by the Centre of Disease Control, the
    Surgeon General, the American Heart Association, all kinds of people
    were witting, knowledgeable and awar e of the study and ap proved its
    ongoing nature well into the 60's and into the 70's, in complete
    violation of all known medical ethics. Well okay, that was kept kind of
    secret. Nobody heard about it except some of these medical bigwigs. No.
    I have a medical paper from the medical school published in 1965 called
    "Untreated Syphilis in a Male Negro - A 20 year follow-up". This stuff
    is published, right in the medical literature. It is looking everybody
    right in the face. What happens when you have 400 illiterate rural
    black guys with active syphilis untreated, for 40 years? Well, the
    outcome of the experiment is, you will be very surprised to hear, they
    don't do too well, they develop a lot of disease, and they die young.
    They do another thing. They breathe air. There is another behaviour
    that we can predict in these guys. They eat food. Going down the list?
    They urinate and defecate. Continuing along with basic human functions,
    they have sexual intercourse with women. Anybody who has been to medical
    school will tell you it is 100% guaranteed that if you take 400 black
    guys with syphil is and do not treat them, the rest of t heir lives, you
    are guaranteed to be creating cases of congenital syphilis. The entire
    medical community knows this as an elementary fact that you learn in
    first year medical school, it is published in the medical literature,
    and it's condoned by all levels of the old boys network in world
    medicine. This is totally unbelievable and completely factual. This
    Manchurian Candidate stuff is like Mickey Mouse Psych stuff. It's not
    even heavy duty. The nurse who was the head of the Tuscagee Syphilis
    study throughout its duration, actually got an award from the Public
    Health Service because of her work on the Tuscagee Syphilis Study. The
    individual guys have gone and testified at the Senate. You can read the
    book, "Bad Blood" and these guys are named as individual human beings.
    Which individual human beings who are victims of military mind control
    research do we already know? Harold Blauer, the tennis pro who was
    killed. Frank Olson who was killed because he jumped through a window
    because he took LSD mixed with Cointro by Sidney Gottlieb
  • jimed14jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    Continuation ...... these guys corner her and ask her about her comments .... the lady that comes over at the end of theinterview (I think) is Dana Bash from CNN ... perhaps this story is far form done, as the old woman claims to have worked at a McCain support center, and sent out letters backing her "arab" claim ...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nSdNVFoAMw&feature=related
    "You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91

    "I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
  • VOLITIONVOLITION Posts: 328
    I am scared for Obama, seriously. Who knows what these right wing nut cases are planning when he wins the election.
    "it feels like it's the end of the world and we all got a good seat. you know -- step right up, get your tickets...here we go."

    - EV
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4RysKP5YCk

    So many of these vids now, I think this one was posted before or one simliar.
  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    MrBrian wrote:


    "Commy faggots!"

    lol. All us liberals are socialistic homosexuals.
  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    Collin wrote:
    But maybe McCain just said 'No, he's not an Arab. And you can trust him, he's a decent guy."

    Exactly. She started her comment with, "I don't trust him." McCain was probably responding to that more than anything.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,338
    MrBrian wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4RysKP5YCk

    So many of these vids now, I think this one was posted before or one simliar.
    that shit is fucking scary.
  • CHANGEinWAVESCHANGEinWAVES Posts: 10,169
    MrBrian wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4RysKP5YCk

    So many of these vids now, I think this one was posted before or one simliar.
    that was disturbing:(
    "I'm not present, I'm a drug that makes you dream"
  • MrBrian wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4RysKP5YCk

    So many of these vids now, I think this one was posted before or one simliar.

    Holy shit...it's worse than I thought...

    "The sidewalk to nowhere"
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    Holy shit...it's worse than I thought...

    "The sidewalk to nowhere"


    Now you may realize why so many of us support Obama. Dennis Kucinich was my first choice, but there is no fucking way I want to see another Rep. in office.

    I would seriously like to have these people removed from the country. They are not worthy of this great land. (especially the loser with the monkey, I may be posting on here from prison if I run into him)

    I just hope Obama changes course with his foreign policy. It may take him 4-6 years, but I think he has a chance to see the light.
  • DOSWDOSW Posts: 2,014
    MrBrian wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4RysKP5YCk

    So many of these vids now, I think this one was posted before or one simliar.

    The best part of that is that incessant blond woman who said she first heard of Palin "three years ago." She does realize that Palin only became the governor of Alaska in 2006... right?
    It's a town full of losers and I'm pulling out of here to win
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    MrBrian wrote:
    Anyone see that McCain rally? One of his supporters had the mic and said to McCain "I can't trust Obama, he's an Arab...right?"...and the McCain reply? "No, no, He's a decent man" and continued saying something like a family man.

    Class all around,


    As opposed to Arabs who are not decent or family-orientated?
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