Afghan war may be lost

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  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    jlew24asu wrote:
    sorry I get pissed when people sympathize with the enemy.
    Not to sound glib, but perhaps you should find out who the enemies really are.
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    jlew24asu wrote:
    sure it is. america is the bad guy and got what it deserved.

    sorry I get pissed when people sympathize with the enemy.
    Is saying stupid things what you usually do when you get pissed? How does that help?
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    jlew24asu wrote:
    sure it is. america is the bad guy and got what it deserved.
    And another thing - why so black and white on this issue? America has it's flaws, all the greatest protagonists do. Does refusing to admit that make the images of war less painful? At least "they" brought it on "themselves"?

    Is that any different than people cheering over the deaths of 3,000 civilians?
  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    jlew24asu wrote:
    sure it is. america is the bad guy and got what it deserved.

    sorry I get pissed when people sympathize with the enemy.

    The fact is, the current strategy is not working, the current war strategy to fight an ideology is weak and will just lead to more hate and anger. I don't understand why it's so hard to see that war won't solve the middle east problems. Past or history should point that out to everyone, but some peoples still prefer to believe that it will work, without plans, without proofs, without solutions. Just more soldiers, more war, more killings. So the situation will just escalade, just as it is currently going worst and worst in Irak, Afghan will be the same.

    Al Quaida are not your nation's enemy, and calling individuals who oppose these wars "sympathizer to the ennemy" is just garbage, gives nothing, just getting your own frustration away i guess, but it's non-sense.
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    jlew24asu wrote:
    it really pisses me off when people like you smile and stood on your couch and cheered when the WTC was attacked.
    .

    jlew you are smart enough to know that know one stood and cheered when the towers were attacked, except of course the Israelis
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    thankyougrandma wrote:
    The fact is, the current strategy is not working, the current war strategy to fight an ideology is weak and will just lead to more hate and anger. I don't understand why it's so hard to see that war won't solve the middle east problems. Past or history should point that out to everyone, but some peoples still prefer to believe that it will work, without plans, without proofs, without solutions. Just more soldiers, more war, more killings. So the situation will just escalade, just as it is currently going worst and worst in Irak, Afghan will be the same.
    I agree
    thankyougrandma wrote:
    Al Quaida are not your nation's enemy, and calling individuals who oppose these wars "sympathizer to the ennemy" is just garbage, gives nothing, just getting your own frustration away i guess, but it's non-sense.
    sorry but you lost me here. el queda is the sworn enemy of america. has been for a long time now. el queda and extreme islam. they want to destroy us and what we stand for.

    and while I know america has flaws, some very big ones, I do not find any justification for the attack on 9/11. as some people do around here
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    hailhailkc wrote:
    That pipeline done yet...??? You have some proof of this? Like, real proof...not a salon.com or rense.com article. Real proof.

    ???

    I thought this was common knowledge?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I thought this was common knowledge?

    you thought was is common knowledge? that bush and co orchestrated 9/11 in order to build a pipeline?
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I agree
    I do not find any justification for the attack on 9/11. as some people do around here

    history speaks for itself...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    you thought was is common knowledge? that bush and co orchestrated 9/11 in order to build a pipeline?

    no....that the fact the pipeline is being built.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    ledvedderman wrote:
    jlew you are smart enough to know that know one stood and cheered when the towers were attacked, except of course the Israelis

    http://beirut.indymedia.org/ar/2006/12/6287.shtml
  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I agree
    sorry but you lost me here. el queda is the sworn enemy of america. has been for a long time now. el queda and extreme islam. they want to destroy us and what we stand for.

    and while I know america has flaws, some very big ones, I do not find any justification for the attack on 9/11. as some people do around here

    Al quaida hit Spain and many other countries too, they're a worldwide criminal organization. But i can see why some in the USA see them as their ennemy, since most of the country wealth is going after a war on terror, it's easy to think that way, but i still disagree.

    I'll never agree with someone saying the victims of 9/11 deserve to die that night, or that the USA had it coming, but the reasons behind the attack has to be analyzed and they did have reasons, even if we don't like that, we need to understand what happened if we want to go through the next level. Right now i still think that no progress has been made against this terror thing, it's not something that you can fight, just something that you can discourage. Just my opinion.
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    MrBrian wrote:
    http://beirut.indymedia.org/ar/2006/12/6287.shtml

    Thats the article I was looking for to post with my response. It's like you were reading my mind.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    MrBrian wrote:
    http://beirut.indymedia.org/ar/2006/12/6287.shtml

    That's some twisted shit right there. But didn't we all get a little giddy during shock and awe in Iraq?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • HANKTHELANK
    HANKTHELANK Posts: 89
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I agree
    sorry but you lost me here. el queda is the sworn enemy of america. has been for a long time now. el queda and extreme islam. they want to destroy us and what we stand for.

    and while I know america has flaws, some very big ones, I do not find any justification for the attack on 9/11. as some people do around here


    The fact that you believe that the problem is Al Qaida and Extreme Islam, just shows how brainwashed you are. I truly hope that you are in a extreme small minority....for the sake of humanity.
  • Binaural
    Binaural Posts: 1,046
    jlew24asu wrote:
    sure it is. america is the bad guy and got what it deserved.

    sorry I get pissed when people sympathize with the enemy.
    Wilfred Owen’s Photographs

    When Parnell’s Irish in the House
    Pressed that the British Navy’s cat-
    O-nine-tails be abolished, what
    Shut against them? It was
    Neither Irish nor English nor of that
    Decade, but of the species.

    Predictably, Parliament
    Squared against the motion. As soon
    Let the old school tie be rent
    Off their necks, and give thanks, as see gone
    No shame but a monument –
    Trafalgar not better known.

    ‘To discontinue it were as much
    As ship not powder and cannonballs
    But brandy and women’ (Laughter). Hearing which
    A witty profound Irishman calls
    For a ‘cat’ into the House, and sits to watch
    The gentry fingering its stained tails.

    Whereupon . . .
    quietly, unopposed,
    The motion was passed.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    HANKTHELANK wrote:
    The fact that you believe that the problem is Al Qaida and Extreme Islam, just shows how brainwashed you are. I truly hope that you are in a extreme small minority....for the sake of humanity.

    listen hanky, I dont know who you are or what cave you live in but there are many people who simply shake their head and laugh at your post.

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  • HANKTHELANK
    HANKTHELANK Posts: 89
    jlew24asu wrote:
    listen hanky, I dont know who you are or what cave you live in but there are many people who simply shake their head and laugh at your post.

    http://www.dreamworksfansite.com/preview2003/images/Old_School_One.jpg

    Nice reply....seems to me you truly do have that dumbed down frat house mentality.
  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    HANKTHELANK wrote:
    Nice reply....seems to me you truly do have that dumbed down frat house mentality.

    you're the one getting this low around here... you can disagree with someone without calling name, plus i don't think your insults are really helping your point of view...
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • HANKTHELANK
    HANKTHELANK Posts: 89
    thankyougrandma wrote:
    you're the one getting this low around here... you can disagree with someone without calling name, plus i don't think your insults are really helping your point of view...

    True, don't usually go this lo.....getting frustrated I guess... hearing the government spin the same shit which has been proven to be lies, and yet people still believe. Depressing really.

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