Why I love Sean Hannity

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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Health care...really?

    Every US citizen gets free operations, unlimited hospital treatment, MRI's, catscans, xrays, emergency medical, and essentially everything else performed in a hospital for that matter for free??

    fuck me... about time... when exactly did that happen?

    Next time just state the obvious so there's no room to dodge the point. :)
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    jeffbr wrote:
    Yawn.



    Health care we have. The best money can buy. That's why people come here from around the world rather sit in some national health sevice queue hoping they get an operation before they die. Or to be told by their national health service that they don't qualify for a procedure.

    That is a completely separate issue from Moore's issue, which is access to health care. But to say we don't have health care is to ignore reality.

    Amazing! I am so impressed. You remembered all the talking points in this one. Great job, usually republicans only recall the ones from the past two to three days. That one was at least eight days ago, so we may have to call Guinness and rewrite one with your name.
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    Rockin'InCanada wrote:
    Actually as a whole your system ranks behind Canada's (which is WAY down the list)...your system is great for people with money and since we live in a society where we have class divisions (lower/middle/upper) there is a large % of those who cannot even afford healthcare and it has nothing to do with being lazy and that crap it has to do with the fact that not everyone is going to get great jobs that have great benefits because there is simply not enough of those jobs to cover everyone...therefore you have a flawed system with no net for those that require a more "public" system...ain't saying my system is great saying yours is just as far from perfect.....

    A piece of advice. You should only introduce one to two facts at a time when speaking or responding to republicans. They have a lot of trouble recognizing anything that isn't warm and fuzzy.
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    jeffbr wrote:
    The country as a whole has a health care system. Not perfect, but it exists. Or didn't you know that.

    ah, so you were under the assumption that roland that there was no health care system at all in the US? ok, that's where we went wrong, see, i had that pretty much bottom of my list on 'what did roland mean by that comment'

    yes, it may shock you but i certainly DO know there exists a health care system in the us! they got the word out pretty good, like those new $20's and $10's....
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Health care...really?

    Every US citizen gets free operations, unlimited hospital treatment, MRI's, catscans, xrays, emergency medical, and essentially everything else performed in a hospital for that matter for free??

    fuck me... about time... when exactly did that happen?


    that's where the 'it's not perfect' comes in ;)

    i agree, such a greedy care for profit system is far from perfect
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jeffbr wrote:
    It is hard to have dialog with people who make up their own definitions.

    well umm....hello....wake up call...that's what real health care is!

    That's exactly what I get in regards to my health care....my basic rights ...

    I'm speaking from experience...what are you speaking from...wait lemme guess....shall I wipe it for you? :D:p

    I know the US has some rinky dink thing already...but it's SHITE!
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    jeffbr wrote:
    no better medical care can be found anywhere.

    That's far from the truth.


    The World Health Organization's ranking
    of the world's health systems.
    Source: WHO World Health Report -

    Rank Country

    1 France
    2 Italy
    3 San Marino
    4 Andorra
    5 Malta
    6 Singapore
    7 Spain
    8 Oman
    9 Austria
    10 Japan
    11 Norway
    12 Portugal
    13 Monaco
    14 Greece
    15 Iceland
    16 Luxembourg
    17 Netherlands
    18 United Kingdom
    19 Ireland
    20 Switzerland
    21 Belgium
    22 Colombia
    23 Sweden
    24 Cyprus
    25 Germany
    26 Saudi Arabia
    27 United Arab Emirates
    28 Israel
    29 Morocco
    30 Canada
    31 Finland
    32 Australia
    33 Chile
    34 Denmark
    35 Dominica
    36 Costa Rica
    37 United States of America
    38 Slovenia
    39 Cuba
    40 Brunei
    41 New Zealand
    42 Bahrain
    43 Croatia
    44 Qatar
    45 Kuwait
    46 Barbados
    47 Thailand
    48 Czech Republic
    49 Malaysia
    50 Poland
    51 Dominican Republic
    52 Tunisia
    53 Jamaica
    54 Venezuela
    55 Albania
    56 Seychelles
    57 Paraguay
    58 South Korea
    59 Senegal
    60 Philippines
    61 Mexico
    62 Slovakia
    63 Egypt
    64 Kazakhstan
    65 Uruguay
    66 Hungary
    67 Trinidad and Tobago
    68 Saint Lucia
    69 Belize
    70 Turkey
    71 Nicaragua
    72 Belarus
    73 Lithuania
    74 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
    75 Argentina
    76 Sri Lanka
    77 Estonia
    78 Guatemala
    79 Ukraine
    80 Solomon Islands
    81 Algeria
    82 Palau
    83 Jordan
    84 Mauritius
    85 Grenada
    86 Antigua and Barbuda
    87 Libya
    88 Bangladesh
    89 Macedonia
    90 Bosnia-Herzegovina
    91 Lebanon
    92 Indonesia
    93 Iran
    94 Bahamas
    95 Panama
    96 Fiji
    97 Benin
    98 Nauru
    99 Romania
    100 Saint Kitts and Nevis
    101 Moldova
    102 Bulgaria
    103 Iraq
    104 Armenia
    105 Latvia
    106 Yugoslavia
    107 Cook Islands
    108 Syria
    109 Azerbaijan
    110 Suriname
    111 Ecuador
    112 India
    113 Cape Verde
    114 Georgia
    115 El Salvador
    116 Tonga
    117 Uzbekistan
    118 Comoros
    119 Samoa
    120 Yemen
    121 Niue
    122 Pakistan
    123 Micronesia
    124 Bhutan
    125 Brazil
    126 Bolivia
    127 Vanuatu
    128 Guyana
    129 Peru
    130 Russia
    131 Honduras
    132 Burkina Faso
    133 Sao Tome and Principe
    134 Sudan
    135 Ghana
    136 Tuvalu
    137 Ivory Coast
    138 Haiti
    139 Gabon
    140 Kenya
    141 Marshall Islands
    142 Kiribati
    143 Burundi
    144 China
    145 Mongolia
    146 Gambia
    147 Maldives
    148 Papua New Guinea
    149 Uganda
    150 Nepal
    151 Kyrgystan
    152 Togo
    153 Turkmenistan
    154 Tajikistan
    155 Zimbabwe
    156 Tanzania
    157 Djibouti
    158 Eritrea
    159 Madagascar
    160 Vietnam
    161 Guinea
    162 Mauritania
    163 Mali
    164 Cameroon
    165 Laos
    166 Congo
    167 North Korea
    168 Namibia
    169 Botswana
    170 Niger
    171 Equatorial Guinea
    172 Rwanda
    173 Afghanistan
    174 Cambodia
    175 South Africa
    176 Guinea-Bissau
    177 Swaziland
    178 Chad
    179 Somalia
    180 Ethiopia
    181 Angola
    182 Zambia
    183 Lesotho
    184 Mozambique
    185 Malawi
    186 Liberia
    187 Nigeria
    188 Democratic Republic of the Congo
    189 Central African Republic
    190 Myanmar

    http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Myth One: The United States has the best health care system in the world.
    Fact One: The United States ranks 23rd in infant mortality, down from 12th in 1960 and 21st in 1990


    Fact Two: The United States ranks 20th in life expectancy for women down from 1st in 1945 and 13th in 1960


    Fact Three: The United States ranks 21st in life expectancy for men down from 1st in 1945 and 17th in 1960.


    Fact Four: The United States ranks between 50th and 100th in immunizations depending on the immunization. Overall US is 67th, right behind Botswana


    Fact Five: Outcome studies on a variety of diseases, such as coronary artery disease, and renal failure show the United States to rank below Canada and a wide variety of industrialized nations.


    Conclusion: The United States ranks poorly relative to other industrialized nations in health care despite having the best trained health care providers and the best medical infrastructure of any industrialized nation.


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  • mookie blaylock 10
    mookie blaylock 10 Posts: 4,042
    thanks for your posts, que barium. very enlightening information.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Took the words right out of my mouth...

    boom....there it is... :D
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • Rushlimbo
    Rushlimbo Posts: 832
    Jesus, the U.S. of A aint number one in yet another category that we believe we are? I feel lied to. Where's John Wayne when we need him?
    War is Peace
    Freedom is Slavery
    Ignorance is Strength
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Jesus, the U.S. of A aint number one in yet another category that we believe we are? I feel lied to. Where's John Wayne when we need him?
    Holding a rifle in his coffin.
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  • Rushlimbo
    Rushlimbo Posts: 832
    gue_barium wrote:
    Holding a rifle in his coffin.

    hehehe. and a carton of smokes that didnt give him cancer (or was it filming in the uranium, i mean nevada deserts....)
    War is Peace
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    Ignorance is Strength
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    hehehe. and a carton of smokes that didnt give him cancer (or was it filming in the uranium, i mean nevada deserts....)

    Someone really ought to make a statue of John Wayne and Charlton Heston making love to each other.

    Now that would be an art piece.

    hehee.
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  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Jesus, the U.S. of A aint number one in yet another category that we believe we are? I feel lied to. Where's John Wayne when we need him?


    <tumbleweed blows by>

    we have great health care if you can afford it i remember when health insurance meant maybe a $20 fee at the dr's and not too much for Rx's...now you pay so much and have to meet thousands of dollars in deductables before they start really paying...they sell it as 'you take care of the little things like routine doctors visits and we take care of the big things, god forbid' but in reality...what does the avg person (under retirement age) use their insurance for???? it's a fucking scam b/c the pharma/health carefor profit/hmo system is so wealthy and powerful and uses it's lobbyists to, let's be honest here, bribe our 'representatives' in government to look the other way while they screw us while giving them breaks and making it easier to get away w/ their shitty treatment! they can even deny procedures if they feel it's too expensive!

    some guy posted here years ago about his dad being sick and needing a transplant (i believe) and the hmo thought it cost too much and might not work so they refused to pay for it...and thanks to our government they are allowed to do this....places like kaiser's using pdr's that are a few years old...cutting costs to make a profit, b/c we all know in our capitalist society last years profits will not be enough this year...

    america, fuck yeah!
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • Rushlimbo
    Rushlimbo Posts: 832
    El_Kabong wrote:
    <tumbleweed blows by>

    we have great health care if you can afford it i remember when health insurance meant maybe a $20 fee at the dr's and not too much for Rx's...now you pay so much and have to meet thousands of dollars in deductables before they start really paying...they sell it as 'you take care of the little things like routine doctors visits and we take care of the big things, god forbid' but in reality...what does the avg person (under retirement age) use their insurance for???? it's a fucking scam b/c the pharma/health carefor profit/hmo system is so wealthy and powerful and uses it's lobbyists to, let's be honest here, bribe our 'representatives' in government to look the other way while they screw us while giving them breaks and making it easier to get away w/ their shitty treatment! they can even deny procedures if they feel it's too expensive!

    some guy posted here years ago about his dad being sick and needing a transplant (i believe) and the hmo thought it cost too much and might not work so they refused to pay for it...and thanks to our government they are allowed to do this....places like kaiser's using pdr's that are a few years old...cutting costs to make a profit, b/c we all know in our capitalist society last years profits will not be enough this year...

    america, fuck yeah!

    Oh, come on now. The pharmaceutical companies are like a second momma to us. I've seen those commercials where they go around on a bus and give free meds to everyone who needs it !! Really !!
    War is Peace
    Freedom is Slavery
    Ignorance is Strength
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    well umm....hello....wake up call...that's what real health care is!

    That's exactly what I get in regards to my health care....my basic rights ...

    I'm speaking from experience...what are you speaking from...wait lemme guess....shall I wipe it for you? :D:p

    I know the US has some rinky dink thing already...but it's SHITE!

    Nice try. You've narrowly defined healthcare to be a government run social program. That isn't healthcare. That is one way of administering healthcare. As soon as you learn the languange, and can use words as they're intended you'll be able to have reasoned dialog. Until then I expect nothing but non squiturs and potty jokes from you.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    jeffbr wrote:
    Nice try. You've narrowly defined healthcare to be a government run social program. That isn't healthcare. That is one way of administering healthcare. As soon as you learn the languange, and can use words as they're intended you'll be able to have reasoned dialog. Until then I expect nothing but non squiturs and potty jokes from you.

    What good is the "best health care in the world" when 90% of the population can't get it?
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Tackalac wrote:
    Amazing! I am so impressed. You remembered all the talking points in this one. Great job, usually republicans only recall the ones from the past two to three days. That one was at least eight days ago, so we may have to call Guinness and rewrite one with your name.

    You must be new here. Read a bit before you post and make yourself look foolish. I'm not a republican. Anyone who isn't socialist around here gets accused of that. I'm a Libertarian. Have been for a couple of decades (your mommy was probably still tucking you in at night when I started voting Libertarian). Nice try, son. Just remember, not everyone who opposes socialization of services is Republican.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    gue_barium wrote:
    What good is the "best health care in the world" when 90% of the population can't get it?

    Good for me, I guess. And where did you get that 90% figure? Please list a source for that.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08

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