Saddam hanging: my reaction

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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    pjalive21 wrote:
    life in jail and you are going to pick up the tab for keeping him alive, right??

    better than making him a martyr. let anyone who wants to follow in his footsteps see where it gets them... a lifetime of scrubbing toilets in a shitty iraqi prison. now he dies as the lone muslim leader who dared to defy the US. great.
  • j.ro
    j.ro Posts: 111
    What blows my mind is how conditioned we all are to violence. The fact that cable news keeps showing Saddam with that noose around his neck over and over again. I am on the fence with capital punishment. It's the one issue I go back and forth on. It's definitely not a deterant...that's for sure...and seriously, does this make us any better then him? Don't get me wrong, Saddam was a brutal dictator, but have we come full circle? I don't know...

    It's amazing that Janet Jackson can show one boob (the only thing I found offensive about this was her plummeting career and pathetic attempt at a publicity stunt) and we have mass hysteria, but show Saddam with a noose around his neck! No one flinches! As a child I would have been much more disturbed by the noose then the boob!
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    j.ro wrote:
    It's amazing that Janet Jackson can show one boob (the only thing I found offensive about this was her plummeting career and pathetic attempt at a publicity stunt) and we have mass hysteria, but show Saddam with a noose around his neck! No one flinches! As a child I would have been much more disturbed by the noose then the boob!

    yes, this is the truly fucked up and backwards nature of american values. sex is offensive in any form, but violence is acceptable in any form. show a tit and our children will all become perverts. show wholesale slaughter and murder on a nightly basis and we're shocked when a few kids gun down their classmates.
  • kenny olav
    kenny olav Posts: 3,319
    pjalive21 wrote:
    life in jail and you are going to pick up the tab for keeping him alive, right??

    due to legal fees, it usually costs more to give someone a death sentence. plus, the money spent on a criminal doesn't really go the criminal... it goes to people who administer prison services, and to the people who supply food and resources to prisons.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    due to legal fees, it usually costs more to give someone a death sentence. plus, the money spent on a criminal doesn't really go the criminal... it goes to people who administer prison services, and to the people who supply food and resources to prisons.

    not in iraq. they got saddam from hole to noose in 3 years. their appeals process is a little more streamlined than ours ;)
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    pjalive21 wrote:
    life in jail and you are going to pick up the tab for keeping him alive, right??
    ...
    Here's someone worried about money... how about worrying about the 500 BILLION taxpayer dollars being poured into that cluster fuck already? And what about the 400 MILLION or so that the G.A.O. says there is no accounting for?
    If you're going to bitch about money... fine, bitch about money. But, don't over look the blatant loss of your tax dollars in order to fit your agenda. A half a TRILLION dollars goes a long way... except in Iraq.
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  • j.ro
    j.ro Posts: 111
    soulsinging wrote:
    not in iraq. they got saddam from hole to noose in 3 years. their appeals process is a little more streamlined than ours ;)

    They sure are efficient...I'll give them that.
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  • hrd2imgn
    hrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,932
    He needed to be held accountable for something finally. Even if thousnds won't see justice for what he did to them (still trying the gassing of the Kurds case) The Butcher of Bahgdad got what he brought onto thousands of innocents.
  • brainofPJ
    brainofPJ Posts: 2,361
    so when's bush going to hang?


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  • enharmonic
    enharmonic Posts: 1,917
    I'll be the first to offer up a conspiracy theory. :p LOL

    What if it was actually one of Hussein's look-alikes, and we shuffled the real Hussein off to one of our secret prisons in Europe to be tortured for additional intel?

    I wanted to be the first kook with an Oliver Stone theory :D
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  • InJuddsTree
    InJuddsTree Posts: 377
    the death penalty argument is a whole other thread in itself. i do not agree with capital punishment in any form, regardless of circumstance, so i obviously to not support the execution of saddam hussein.

    what worries me more is the western world's attitude and approach to the execution. the last 3 days highlights the blatant desensitisation towards violence of the american/western public. saddam hussein's final moments are captured on television, broadcast around the world, detailed in 'blow-by-blow' accounts in newspapers... but you aren't allowed to show a boob on the box.
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  • sponger
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    What disturbs me is that the hanging was obviously carried out by shiites as they were chanting Muqtada al-Sadr's name. So, to them, it wasn't really an act of justice; it was a symbol of victory over the sunni for the shiites. Even though Saddam was secular, his loyalties lay with the sunni moreso than the shiites. So, again, it's just one more act of sectarian violence that does little in terms of progress for Iraq.
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  • Cosmo
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    sponger wrote:
    What disturbs me is that the hanging was obviously carried out by shiites as they were chanting Muqtada al-Sadr's name. So, to them, it wasn't really an act of justice; it was a symbol of victory over the sunni for the shiites. Even though Saddam was secular, his loyalties lay with the sunni moreso than the shiites. So, again, it's just one more act of sectarian violence that does little in terms of progress for Iraq.
    ...
    And WHY hold the execution during the holiest days of the Christian, Muslim and Jewist religions? Couldn't the thing have waited til Groundhog Day?
    It's another nail in the coffin of President Bush's Great American Dream in Iraq and another reason for those Islamic Religious Sects to keep on killing each other.
    And... yet another poor decision in this entire mess in Iraq.
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  • acoustic guy
    acoustic guy Posts: 3,770
    I think it was the right thing to do.
    First, I believe " an eye for an eye".
    Second, he killed a lot of innocent people.
    I always thought the longer he is alive the more af a chance his followers would kidnap more people and demand he be released or some shit like that.
    No matter what any body says the world is a better place with him gone.
    Don't sit there and have pitty for some evil son of a bitch like that.
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  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    acoustic guy wrote:
    I think it was the right thing to do.
    First, I believe " an eye for an eye".
    Second, he killed a lot of innocent people.
    I always thought the longer he is alive the more af a chance his followers would kidnap more people and demand he be released or some shit like that.
    No matter what any body says the world is a better place with him gone.
    Don't sit there and have pitty for some evil son of a bitch like that.

    An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
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  • acoustic guy
    acoustic guy Posts: 3,770
    Collin wrote:
    An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
    Gandhi

    I could agree with that but not in this situation.
    What next, you think if Hitler lived we should have let him apologize or maybe just kept him in a jail and allowed him to breat our air?
    Hell no.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    InJuddsTree wrote:
    what worries me more is the western world's attitude and approach to the execution. the last 3 days highlights the blatant desensitisation towards violence of the american/western public. saddam hussein's final moments are captured on television, broadcast around the world, detailed in 'blow-by-blow' accounts in newspapers... but you aren't allowed to show a boob on the box.

    the naked body is soooo shamefull...but killing and maming are acceptible.....what a fked up christian country we live in. And most just don't get it...thats the sad part.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    acoustic guy wrote:
    I could agree with that but not in this situation.
    What next, you think if Hitler lived we should have let him apologize or maybe just kept him in a jail and allowed him to breat our air?
    Hell no.

    just one second with an open mind....when you kill your no better than he...you just lowered yourself to his level...and the worst part you condone killing as an acceptable behavior. Get it???
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  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    acoustic guy wrote:
    I could agree with that but not in this situation.
    What next, you think if Hitler lived we should have let him apologize or maybe just kept him in a jail and allowed him to breat our air?
    Hell no.

    Well, yes, if Hitler was alive... I think we should keep him in jail.
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  • acoustic guy
    acoustic guy Posts: 3,770
    Collin wrote:
    Well, yes, if Hitler was alive... I think we should keep him in jail.

    Nuts!
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