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Saddam hanging: my reaction

miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
edited December 2006 in A Moving Train
I know what your all thinking: miller8966 must be as happy as a pig in shit...but honestly im not. I saw no reason for the execution of saddam.

I am not disagreeing with the fact that he is a tyrant and deserved justice...but to me a life in jail would have been far better than to give him the death penalty.

"As a noose was tightened around Hussein's neck, one of the executioners yelled "long live Muqtada al-Sadr," Haddad said, referring to the powerful anti-American Shiite religious leader.

Hussein, a Sunni, uttered one last phrase before he died, saying "Muqtada al-Sadr" in a mocking tone, according to Haddad's account."

That kind of scares me.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    You surprise me Miller. In a good way.
  • RavennaSeattle1911RavennaSeattle1911 Posts: 478
    if it wasnt so tragic it would be funny

    it sounds like a mell brooks movie

    http://www.topix.net/content/ap/1871705540157352608635095369801151251435?threadid=KAKGKUTHFG6HUVNJ

    bush says things wont change

    when wa state hung wesley allen dodd in usa i think that year we had the highest crime rate that year or bundy too but im not real sure

    i dont think death deters much-it seems to make them do moreand or they go out celibrate drive drunk and kill more or fight-sort of funny if it wasnt so tragic
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  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    Even as much as I dislike the Bush administration and the fact that we went to war with Iraq in the first place instead of keeping on with the war on terror...as much as I disagree with all that jazz.....I couldn't be happier they hung that bastard. Reading that he was a scared broken man in his last minutes makes me happy.

    To me, this would be like mourning Stalin or Hitler.

    Screw that....good riddance Saddam.
  • RavennaSeattle1911RavennaSeattle1911 Posts: 478
    if it wasnt so tragic it would be funny

    it sounds like a mell brooks movie

    http://www.topix.net/content/ap/1871705540157352608635095369801151251435?threadid=KAKGKUTHFG6HUVNJ

    bush says things wont change

    when wa state hung wesley allen dodd in usa i think that year we had the highest crime rate that year or bundy too but im not real sure

    i dont think death deters much-it seems to make them do moreand or they go out celibrate drive drunk and kill more or fight-sort of funny if it wasnt so tragic
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  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    Wasn't Milosevich just as bad as Saddam? Why did he only get a prison sentence. Is it racism?
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    sponger wrote:
    Wasn't Milosevich just as bad as Saddam? Why did he only get a prison sentence. Is it racism?

    Because capital punishment isn't practised in the Netherlands.
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Because capital punishment isn't practised in the Netherlands.


    i love the use of the word "practised" in this context... implies men in black hoods trying out their death contraptions on small rodents, monkeys, mick hucknall.... :)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    miller8966 wrote:
    I know what your all thinking: miller8966 must be as happy as a pig in shit...but honestly im not. I saw no reason for the execution of saddam.

    I am not disagreeing with the fact that he is a tyrant and deserved justice...but to me a life in jail would have been far better than to give him the death penalty.

    "As a noose was tightened around Hussein's neck, one of the executioners yelled "long live Muqtada al-Sadr," Haddad said, referring to the powerful anti-American Shiite religious leader.

    Hussein, a Sunni, uttered one last phrase before he died, saying "Muqtada al-Sadr" in a mocking tone, according to Haddad's account."

    That kind of scares me.

    This may be the only time, but I completelyy agree with you.
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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    aNiMaL wrote:
    Even as much as I dislike the Bush administration and the fact that we went to war with Iraq in the first place instead of keeping on with the war on terror...as much as I disagree with all that jazz.....I couldn't be happier they hung that bastard. Reading that he was a scared broken man in his last minutes makes me happy.

    To me, this would be like mourning Stalin or Hitler.

    Screw that....good riddance Saddam.

    I don't think we're mourning, as much as we think it would be better stratigcally not to hang him. This just gives the insurgants more reason to fight.
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  • pjalive21pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    miller8966 wrote:
    I know what your all thinking: miller8966 must be as happy as a pig in shit...but honestly im not. I saw no reason for the execution of saddam.

    I am not disagreeing with the fact that he is a tyrant and deserved justice...but to me a life in jail would have been far better than to give him the death penalty.

    "As a noose was tightened around Hussein's neck, one of the executioners yelled "long live Muqtada al-Sadr," Haddad said, referring to the powerful anti-American Shiite religious leader.

    Hussein, a Sunni, uttered one last phrase before he died, saying "Muqtada al-Sadr" in a mocking tone, according to Haddad's account."

    That kind of scares me.

    life in jail and you are going to pick up the tab for keeping him alive, right??
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    pjalive21 wrote:
    life in jail and you are going to pick up the tab for keeping him alive, right??


    Please don't bring money into this. The amount we pay to keep someone in prison for life is but a drop in the bucket compared to many, many other things.
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  • South of SeattleSouth of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    know1 wrote:
    Please don't bring money into this. The amount we pay to keep someone in prison for life is but a drop in the bucket compared to many, many other things.

    Especially when Iraq would be paying for it.
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  • not4unot4u Posts: 512
    A klank of a glass and a toast.
    Through celebration "bring in the new year!" timmed to "celebrate the death of suddam" is a good example of mixing religion and killing or death howeverway you see it.
    The whole christian world this year with no choice has been forced to go through with this. Each opinion either yes or no, i can see a trend for this factor.
    we don't want war, but we still want more?
  • bovy_jbovy_j Posts: 1,008
    The only person who could truly enjoy that execution is Saddam. Instead of having to spend the rest of his life in prison, living like shit, smelling like shit, eating shit. Saddam goes through what...2 minutes or less or pain, and is free of all the problems he would face in prison.

    I believe the bastard should have been put in prison and not hung. Maybe it's the fact that I do not support capital punishment, but I'd much rather see Saddam rot in prison than be set free into the afterlife.

    Just my opinion.
  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    I dunno. I think if he had a choice, he would've gone with life in prison. All these guys on death row wouldn't be scrambling for reprieve after reprieve if they really preferred execution to life imprisonment.
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  • Urban HikerUrban Hiker Posts: 1,312
    miller8966 wrote:
    I am not disagreeing with the fact that he is a tyrant and deserved justice...but to me a life in jail would have been far better than to give him the death penalty.

    Agreed. Death is an easy out.
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  • HammertoneHammertone Posts: 2
    Nothing like seeing that noose go around his neck on Global TV. That's going out in dignity if ever I saw it. He could have gone out in a blinding flash of laser guided nightvision, with the rest of his homies when the Bath Party headquarters was bombed. There were way too many of those guys to process through the judicial system. But who knows what they were cookin up in there? They may have been providing a decoy for the WMD truck to get out of town.
  • SweetHarmonicsSweetHarmonics Posts: 290
    The biggest tragedy is that we lost a valued employee who knew how to keep those idiots in line. That much should be clear by now.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    miller8966 wrote:
    I know what your all thinking: miller8966 must be as happy as a pig in shit...but honestly im not. I saw no reason for the execution of saddam.

    I am not disagreeing with the fact that he is a tyrant and deserved justice...but to me a life in jail would have been far better than to give him the death penalty.

    "As a noose was tightened around Hussein's neck, one of the executioners yelled "long live Muqtada al-Sadr," Haddad said, referring to the powerful anti-American Shiite religious leader.

    Hussein, a Sunni, uttered one last phrase before he died, saying "Muqtada al-Sadr" in a mocking tone, according to Haddad's account."

    That kind of scares me.
    ...
    We knew this going in... or, at least, we SHOULD have known this.
    Was there anyone that truely believed that 3 decades of oppression would result in forgiveness and collaboration once the guns were placed in the oppressed's hands? Seriously. We're talking Arabs, here, Kiddies. You have to be completely naive or a complete idiot to think that there would not be vengance and reprisals in a changing of the guard. And, seriously... can you blame them? I mean, imagine your family being hauled off in the middle of the night and never seen again... until 22 years later when their remains are identified in a mass gravesite near a city dump. Would you be full of forgiveness and national pride because 22 years is long enough to forgive and forget about your parents and siblings torture and murder... or would you be out to kick some Sunni ass?
    Face it... we have turned Iraq over to the Islamic Fundamentalist Iranians... something the Ayatollah Khomenin could only dream about. Now, his spawn in the form of Muqtada Al Sadr has influence in the Democratically elected Iraqi government.
    "Spreading Democracy" is a good battle cry for the idiots who believe it... but, think about it... the majority of those people over there believe America is the decadent Great Satan and the worst evil the world has ever witnessed. Who do you think they are going to elect into power with a popular vote? If you guessed, "Someone who hates America", then give yourself an 'A'.
    Hint: The LAST place you want to spread Democracy to right now... Pakistan. The America friendly guy over there took charge in a coup, not a Democratic election. The guy is the President/Army Chief of Staff. If you are justifying our support in money and weapons to Pakistan with the lame ass, 'The Enemy of my enemy...' bullshit, remember this... that role, the 'enemy of my enemy' was once tagged to Saddam Hussein and Usama Bin Laden. Maybe it's time to dump that policy regarding our foriegn affairs.
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  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    I don't wanna start another thread about this topic right now, but since this one is about "reaction" i'll post it in this thread.

    Ramsey Clark's reaction to the saddam hanging.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNA3t3guG90
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    pjalive21 wrote:
    life in jail and you are going to pick up the tab for keeping him alive, right??

    better than making him a martyr. let anyone who wants to follow in his footsteps see where it gets them... a lifetime of scrubbing toilets in a shitty iraqi prison. now he dies as the lone muslim leader who dared to defy the US. great.
  • j.roj.ro Posts: 111
    What blows my mind is how conditioned we all are to violence. The fact that cable news keeps showing Saddam with that noose around his neck over and over again. I am on the fence with capital punishment. It's the one issue I go back and forth on. It's definitely not a deterant...that's for sure...and seriously, does this make us any better then him? Don't get me wrong, Saddam was a brutal dictator, but have we come full circle? I don't know...

    It's amazing that Janet Jackson can show one boob (the only thing I found offensive about this was her plummeting career and pathetic attempt at a publicity stunt) and we have mass hysteria, but show Saddam with a noose around his neck! No one flinches! As a child I would have been much more disturbed by the noose then the boob!
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    j.ro wrote:
    It's amazing that Janet Jackson can show one boob (the only thing I found offensive about this was her plummeting career and pathetic attempt at a publicity stunt) and we have mass hysteria, but show Saddam with a noose around his neck! No one flinches! As a child I would have been much more disturbed by the noose then the boob!

    yes, this is the truly fucked up and backwards nature of american values. sex is offensive in any form, but violence is acceptable in any form. show a tit and our children will all become perverts. show wholesale slaughter and murder on a nightly basis and we're shocked when a few kids gun down their classmates.
  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    pjalive21 wrote:
    life in jail and you are going to pick up the tab for keeping him alive, right??

    due to legal fees, it usually costs more to give someone a death sentence. plus, the money spent on a criminal doesn't really go the criminal... it goes to people who administer prison services, and to the people who supply food and resources to prisons.
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    due to legal fees, it usually costs more to give someone a death sentence. plus, the money spent on a criminal doesn't really go the criminal... it goes to people who administer prison services, and to the people who supply food and resources to prisons.

    not in iraq. they got saddam from hole to noose in 3 years. their appeals process is a little more streamlined than ours ;)
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    pjalive21 wrote:
    life in jail and you are going to pick up the tab for keeping him alive, right??
    ...
    Here's someone worried about money... how about worrying about the 500 BILLION taxpayer dollars being poured into that cluster fuck already? And what about the 400 MILLION or so that the G.A.O. says there is no accounting for?
    If you're going to bitch about money... fine, bitch about money. But, don't over look the blatant loss of your tax dollars in order to fit your agenda. A half a TRILLION dollars goes a long way... except in Iraq.
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  • j.roj.ro Posts: 111
    soulsinging wrote:
    not in iraq. they got saddam from hole to noose in 3 years. their appeals process is a little more streamlined than ours ;)

    They sure are efficient...I'll give them that.
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  • hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,898
    He needed to be held accountable for something finally. Even if thousnds won't see justice for what he did to them (still trying the gassing of the Kurds case) The Butcher of Bahgdad got what he brought onto thousands of innocents.
  • brainofPJbrainofPJ Posts: 2,361
    so when's bush going to hang?


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  • enharmonicenharmonic Posts: 1,917
    I'll be the first to offer up a conspiracy theory. :p LOL

    What if it was actually one of Hussein's look-alikes, and we shuffled the real Hussein off to one of our secret prisons in Europe to be tortured for additional intel?

    I wanted to be the first kook with an Oliver Stone theory :D
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