Will any Democrat women here vote for McCain because of Palin?

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  • Posts: 16,835
    blacknapkins wrote:
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    That's the difference between being a mayor in name and doing your job.

    If you are doing your job, being a mayor of just about any town is not easy.

    Hell, at work we have 500 people...and a full time plant manager...should I tell her she should only be here part time?
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  • Posts: 16,835
    [quote="QuestionAuthority
    Sorry.. I would take legislative experience over executive experience any day. [/quote"]


    Why?
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    cincybearcat wrote:
    Why?

    What executive experience does John McCain have?
    No longer overwhelmed it seems so simple now.
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    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    Will gender sway any of the ladies here to vote republican?

    HELL no.

    She might be a woman, but she is not *for* women.
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    YieldInHiding wrote:
    What executive experience does John McCain have?


    Not sure if you are aware of this, but you asked a question...didn't answer shit.

    I was asking why someone like legislative experience more than executive?

    Even though it doesn't deserve an answer...McCain has no executive experience that I know of either. Though his military experience could be very similar in a lot of respects. But that is not the question, not the point. What about Biden? What abotu Obama? What about blah, blah, blah.

    If you really wanna get down to it, the McCain/Palin ticket would still have more executive experience than the Obama/Biden ticket. But, once again, not the question. That's why Governer's are better candidates, in my opinion.
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    Brain of J.Lo wrote:
    HELL no.

    She might be a woman, but she is not *for* women.


    Good, it sucks that someone would only look out for their own kind.

    I hope she's not FOR women, but FOR Americans.
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    QuestionAuthority wrote:
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    I grew up in a town of around 5000. The mayor was also our dentist and a high school coach. lol :)
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    cincybearcat wrote:
    Good, it sucks that someone would only look out for their own kind.

    I hope she's not FOR women, but FOR Americans.

    Oh boy.

    Thanks for pretending to not understand what I meant. It really makes you look smart!
  • Posts: 14,977
    Brain of J.Lo wrote:
    Oh boy.

    Thanks for pretending to not understand what I meant. It really makes you look smart!



    seriously.....i don't find her FOR women nor FOR americans either. she is anti-choice all the way around, and fuck the environment too while yer at it.
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  • Posts: 16,835
    Brain of J.Lo wrote:
    Oh boy.

    Thanks for pretending to not understand what I meant. It really makes you look smart!


    C'mon, you gotta lighten up a bit!

    Here's another one for ya...approx. 50% of the people killed from abortions are girls/would be women...so Sarah Palin is certainly FOR women.

    Better? Actually, I personally believe that last comment though.
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    cincybearcat wrote:
    Good, it sucks that someone would only look out for their own kind.

    I hope she's not FOR women, but FOR Americans.

    In reality, it isn't likely. The mere fact that she was chosen for her strict conservative views is proof enough for me that she's really FOR a specific type of American. There's nothing she can say tonight that can convince me that she speaks for me.
    "Information is not knowledge.
    Knowledge is not wisdom.
    Wisdom is not truth.
    Truth is not beauty.
    Beauty is not love.
    Love is not music.
    Music is the best."
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  • Posts: 16,835
    blacknapkins wrote:
    In reality, it isn't likely. The mere fact that she was chosen for her strict conservative views is proof enough for me that she's really FOR a specific type of American. There's nothing she can say tonight that can convince me that she speaks for me.

    I see what your saying...though I would suggest that you try and suspend your previous bias and actually listen with an open mind. You may (and probably will) still disagree, but it's good to hear people out.
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    cincybearcat wrote:
    Not sure if you are aware of this, but you asked a question...didn't answer shit.

    I was asking why someone like legislative experience more than executive?

    Even though it doesn't deserve an answer...McCain has no executive experience that I know of either. Though his military experience could be very similar in a lot of respects. But that is not the question, not the point. What about Biden? What abotu Obama? What about blah, blah, blah.

    If you really wanna get down to it, the McCain/Palin ticket would still have more executive experience than the Obama/Biden ticket. But, once again, not the question. That's why Governer's are better candidates, in my opinion.

    Thanks for your great observation. :rolleyes:

    Congressional legislative experience gives one a generally better view of things on a national/global scale when it comes to foreign policy. In Obama's case, he has served on the Senate Foreign Relations committee. Palin has ZERO foreign policy experience.

    Congressional legislators deal with NATIONAL problems, the same ones a President will have to deal with. Governors deal with state issues which are much smaller in scale.

    George Bush was a governor and has been one of the worst presidents in history. Clinton was a gov and was a decent president. I don't think being a governor is better experience than being a legislator in Congress, nor is it a factor in determining if one candidate is better than another.
    No longer overwhelmed it seems so simple now.
  • Posts: 14,977
    cincybearcat wrote:
    C'mon, you gotta lighten up a bit!

    Here's another one for ya...approx. 50% of the people killed from abortions are girls/would be women...so Sarah Palin is certainly FOR women.

    Better? Actually, I personally believe that last comment though.



    actually, i believe more girls than boys are born....so even more than 50%. thing is though, palin is FOR the possibility of a girl/woman....as an embryo is neither. ;)



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    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    Will gender sway any of the ladies here to vote republican?



    NOPE!!!!!!!!!!
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    YieldInHiding wrote:
    Thanks for your great observation. :rolleyes:

    Congressional legislative experience gives one a generally better view of things on a national/global scale when it comes to foreign policy. In Obama's case, he has served on the Senate Foreign Relations committee. Palin has ZERO foreign policy experience.

    Congressional legislators deal with NATIONAL problems, the same ones a President will have to deal with. Governors deal with state issues which are much smaller in scale.

    George Bush was a governor and has been one of the worst presidents in history. Clinton was a gov and was a decent president. I don't think being a governor is better experience than being a legislator in Congress, nor is it a factor in determining if one candidate is better than another.


    So McCain is more qualified by far than Obama huh?

    See I can do that to. ;)

    Anyhow, Thanks for addressing the question, I do disagree, quite a bit, but I see your angle.

    Personally, I think being a governer shows an extreme leadership that a Senator never shows. I think that Leadership is the #1 key to being an effective President. #2...surrounding yourself with the right resources, the right "experts", and not just people that will agree with you (this is where W went very astray).

    A business analogy....the Plant accounting manager has a terrrific handle on all the costs of the facility....they know all the fine details, have a great handle on the specifics. But that doesn't mean that the accountant has the skills to lead the plant. You need the right people in the right places, but for the top spot you need a general understanding and a vision. And the ability to inspire people with that vision. Hence why I'm attracked to Obama despite my disagreements with him on many issues. But when push came to shove, his first "executive" decision was to do the same old thing and select an old Washington insider as his running mate and agent for change. I didn;t liek that one bit. Perhaps it can be played off as surrounding himself with the right people, but I think that comes in the cabinets, etc...the VP should be another inspiring leader in my opinion. But I'm just one person, so who really cares, huh? ;)
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    decides2dream wrote:
    actually, i believe more girls than boys are born....so even more than 50%. thing is though, palin is FOR the possibility of a girl/woman....as an embryo is neither. ;)



    :D


    Actually, if I remember my epidemeolgy course, more boys are born then girls...very small amount more...and they think this is natures way of balancing the fact that women have a longer life expectancy generally...

    But that's off the top of my head, I could have it mixed up. It's been 8-9 years.
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    cincybearcat wrote:
    Actually, if I remember my epidemeolgy course, more boys are born then girls...very small amount more...and they think this is natures way of balancing the fact that women have a longer life expectancy generally...

    But that's off the top of my head, I could have it mixed up. It's been 8-9 years.



    well, if i remember correctly...and admittedly it's quite a long while ago as well....but none the less....i do believe you are incorrect. :) however, i will readily admit i am wrong if that's the case. the REAL point of my post was the fact of the possibility of girls/women in any case. way to ruin a joke. ;)



    anyhoo....a big HELL NO for palin!
    Stay with me...
    Let's just breathe...


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  • Posts: 1,841
    cincybearcat wrote:
    So McCain is more qualified by far than Obama huh?

    See I can do that to. ;)

    Anyhow, Thanks for addressing the question, I do disagree, quite a bit, but I see your angle.

    Personally, I think being a governer shows an extreme leadership that a Senator never shows. I think that Leadership is the #1 key to being an effective President. #2...surrounding yourself with the right resources, the right "experts", and not just people that will agree with you (this is where W went very astray).

    A business analogy....the Plant accounting manager has a terrrific handle on all the costs of the facility....they know all the fine details, have a great handle on the specifics. But that doesn't mean that the accountant has the skills to lead the plant. You need the right people in the right places, but for the top spot you need a general understanding and a vision. And the ability to inspire people with that vision. Hence why I'm attracked to Obama despite my disagreements with him on many issues. But when push came to shove, his first "executive" decision was to do the same old thing and select an old Washington insider as his running mate and agent for change. I didn;t liek that one bit. Perhaps it can be played off as surrounding himself with the right people, but I think that comes in the cabinets, etc...the VP should be another inspiring leader in my opinion. But I'm just one person, so who really cares, huh? ;)

    I see where you're coming from as well, but McCain's first "executive" decision was blown with choosing Palin. He could have maintained his "maverick" image and went with his original choice of Lieberman, but wimped out.
    No longer overwhelmed it seems so simple now.
  • Posts: 2,177
    cincybearcat wrote:
    I see what your saying...though I would suggest that you try and suspend your previous bias and actually listen with an open mind. You may (and probably will) still disagree, but it's good to hear people out.

    I plan to listen ... and I *am* open-minded most of the time. This, however, is one of those situations where I know what I'm seeing, and it's dangerously ridiculous. If I weren't willing to hear both sides of the argument, I'd dismiss this whole week in politics and save myself the massive headache I'm brewing. :)
    "Information is not knowledge.
    Knowledge is not wisdom.
    Wisdom is not truth.
    Truth is not beauty.
    Beauty is not love.
    Love is not music.
    Music is the best."
    ~ FZ ~

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