Will any Democrat women here vote for McCain because of Palin?
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Will gender sway any of the ladies here to vote republican?
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palin's stance on issues/policies of importance to me are just tooo divergent from my own pov i could never, ever support her. gender means nothing...it's all about issues FOR women, amongst many others....not just being a woman.
obama has a FAR better record of support for women and women's issues, and ideas and ideals that are in line with my own for such.
btw - i am an independent.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
Lots of democratic women will vote republican this November for their own personal reasons, and that's their business.
I OWN MY VOTE!
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Same here
(edit: i'm an independent, too)
I wouldn't vote before I would vote for McCain/ Palin ticket!
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(ok, that might be a bit dramatic
+1 on all of that.
There are millions of voters, so I'm sure that some would be that shallow... I just can't imagine there being a big enough number to justify McCain basically giving the finger to all of the moderates that he alienated with this pick.
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lol!!
and my answer is also
NO
you are on to something here. A joker with the McCain campaign just said that the election is not about issues, but the composite view of what people take away from the candidates.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/09/mccain_manager_this_election_i.html
This is so f-ing crazy. It's like I woke up in some sort of alternate dimension today.
scary, scary.
i DO realize there are voters out there who vote based on looks, political parties, style, if they 'like' someone, etc. i also know there are hilary supporters who feel devalued, etc. however, i just canNOT imagine throwing away my pov on important issues....not even looking at what a candidate thinks and says....and voting solely on gender, age, experience, skin color, etc. it's a ridiculous notion to me.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
same here
I'm a Democrat.
You know, I use to say the same thing...the completely other side, but the same thing...
Then I realized that no change will ever come with abortion. So, I stopped letting 1 issue that was never going anywhere dominate all the other issues I believe in.
it certainly is NOT only 'one issue'...with mccain, or palin.
for me, anyway...
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
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I don't think it's quite that simple to say nothing will ever happen to abortion. McCain himself has set that he would appoint judges to the Supreme Court that would overturn Roe v. Wade, and it's probable that the next President will have the chance to appoint 2, possibly even 3, new justices to the Court. From my knowledge about the judges, there are four pretty firm "overturn" rulers sitting on the bench already (Scalia, Alito, Roberts and Thomas). If McCain has the opportunity to have one more conservative voice on the Court, Roe V. Wade could certainly be overturned.
NO
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You know what overturning Roe v Wade does? It leaves it up to the States...which is what should have been done to begin with.
it doesn't make abortion illegal automatically. It allows the people of the state to make the determination for their state. But I can see how that might be a little scary for some.
What makes one "qualified"?
Shouldn't being a citizen of the US be enough?
LOL - good one.
Mohandas K. Gandhi
~I once had a sparrow alight upon my shoulder for a moment, while I was hoeing in a village garden, and I felt that I was more distinguished by that circumstance than I should have been by any epaulette I could have worn.~
Henry David Thoreau
Seriously?
She's as qualified for the No. 2 spot on the GOP ticket as Obama is for the No. 1 spot on the Democratic ticket.
If Obama *really* wants to make her experience a huge issue, he's going to be digging his own grave.
Politically speaking, she was the best choice McCain could have made out of the pool of rumored candidates. She solidifies his credentials with the Republican base, plus gives him a *chance* to steal some of those moderate women who were leaning toward Hillary.
for the least they could possibly do
Leaving it up to the states is alot different from nothing happening to it...if it is left up to the states there will be many women denied access to a medical procedure. Also, I for one am not willing to go back to an era of back-alley abortions, which is what stirred the pro-choice movement to take more significant action in the first place
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No.
More specifically:
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=301446
About all she does is solidify her credentials with the Republican base (which is not going to be nearly enough to win this election). As more of her political positions come out, people are starting to realize that she is right-wing. Very very right-wing. And most people are moderates/independents. They're not going to like that.
And Obama and co. can easily criticize Palin's experience, as long as they do it carefully and keep it focused on McCain. McCain has said that Obama is unfit to be President because of his lack of experience. Fine, OK. But to be VP, who's main job is to be ready to be president at any moment, he chose someone without many credentials, even when he said the person he would choose would have "extensive credentials." What does that say about his judgment or how seriously he took the decision? Washington experience? None. Foreign policy experience? No matter how many times Cindy McCain says it, Alaska being near Russia is not going to convince anyone she has foreign policy experience. It's not a referendum on Palin, but it is on McCain. And if they wanna come back at Obama with lack of experience, let them. Everyone's heard it before, and no one who votes for Obama is going to be voting him in on the basis of his vast Washington experience. It's the McCain camp that has everything to lose here.
So, if this was such a brilliant decision, why has McCain gone down by multiple percentage points in every national poll since the VP announcement?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html
I, and I think most people, believe it's more important for the top of the ticket to have experience than the No. 2. In terms of sheer experience, Palin is more qualified to be president RIGHT NOW than Obama is. At least she's had some executive experience ... Obama's resume consists of, well, four years of running for president and a lot of "present" votes in the Senate.
She doesn't need foreign policy experience. That's McCain's forte.
Because the Democratic convention just ended. A better question would be why didn't Obama get much of a bump from that? He was expecting double-digits ... most sources seem to indicate he got squat, or squat plus just one or two points. Could be the Palin thing, could be something else, but the fact remains, McCain did BETTER in the past week than even his own campaign could have expected.
The Palin thing isn't hurting him at all ... And, in the end, if all it does is shore up his base -- which was iffy on him to begin with -- then it will have been a success. All the other candidates ... Romney, Lieberman, etc ... would have meant the end of his campaign, basically. He'd have been cooked.
As it stands, according to the national average, he's within two points of Obama heading into his convention. That's probably the best position he could have hoped for.
for the least they could possibly do