Israel Threatens To Blow Up UN Forces Who Are Repairing Civilian Bridges

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  • rarghrargh-brownstar
    rarghrargh-brownstar Posts: 1,272
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Can the U.N. bomb the fuck out of Isreal. You know, even things up.. Is that possible???
    tit for tat.

    isnt this all about keeping tallys anyway??
    Rarghstarfarian.
  • enharmonic
    enharmonic Posts: 1,917
    don't gimme no wrote:
    I'll be honest, I've got nothing against Jews whatsoever so anyone calling me racist can eat my shit, but from the start I've felt like Israel should be able to defend itself if needs be, but the tactics they're using just make me say to myself, "Goddamn Israel" over and over again.

    BINGO!

    They Israeli army wouldn't stand a chance against a country with a real military. That's why they keep beating down the Palestinians and the Lebanese. Hizbollah wasn't justified in taking Israeli hostages, but Israel's response has been way out of proportion. It's a deliberate act of aggression dressed up as a response to so-called "terror"
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  • acutejam
    acutejam Posts: 1,433
    MrBrian wrote:
    You are out of your league
    ----

    What exactly do you want? I'll be happy to dumb it down for you.

    Yeah, please -- dumb down for me how these 2 captured israeli soliders are more important that the EIGHT KILLED during the RAID into Israel?

    And your right, I'm clearly outta my league, I can't help but debate with facts, logic and a bit of opinion salted about! I never can remember to throw a few nazi bombs around, sheesh....
    [sic] happens
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    enharmonic wrote:
    BINGO!

    They Israeli army wouldn't stand a chance against a country with a real military. That's why they keep beating down the Palestinians and the Lebanese. Hizbollah wasn't justified in taking Israeli hostages, but Israel's response has been way out of proportion. It's a deliberate act of aggression dressed up as a response to so-called "terror"

    Dude, don't be ridiculous. The Israeli army is widely regarded as one of the best in the world. Do you really how many wars against so-called real armies they've had to fight? The country has been besieged since its inception.
  • enharmonic
    enharmonic Posts: 1,917
    reborncareerist wrote:
    Dude, don't be ridiculous. The Israeli army is widely regarded as one of the best in the world. Do you really how many wars against so-called real armies they've had to fight? The country has been besieged since its inception.

    I suppose we'll find out if they ever have to engage a real military.
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  • jsand
    jsand Posts: 646
    enharmonic wrote:
    I suppose we'll find out if they ever have to engage a real military.

    You obviously know little or nothing about military strategy. Israel would love to face a real military - one that doesn't hide behind civilians and hides weapons in civilian homes. They would destroy a real military very easily. The reason this conflict is dragging on is because Hezbollah, like all terrorist organizations, fight like cowards. They even wear civilian clothing.
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    jsand wrote:
    You obviously know little or nothing about military strategy. Israel would love to face a real military - one that doesn't hide behind civilians and hides weapons in civilian homes. They would destroy a real military very easily. The reason this conflict is dragging on is because Hezbollah, like all terrorist organizations, fight like cowards. They even wear civilian clothing.

    and dropping bombs from way up high is a very heroic action?
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    jsand wrote:
    You obviously know little or nothing about military strategy. Israel would love to face a real military - one that doesn't hide behind civilians and hides weapons in civilian homes. They would destroy a real military very easily. The reason this conflict is dragging on is because Hezbollah, like all terrorist organizations, fight like cowards. They even wear civilian clothing.

    Basically true ... Israel would love to take on Soviet-style militaries like those of Egypt and Syria in the 60s and 70s. Those fights were pretty one-sided, for the most part. Instead, they fight a guerilla enemy with basically no scruples. Same problem the American military is facing in Iraq ...
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    MrBrian wrote:
    and dropping bombs from way up high is a very heroic action?

    No, not bombs dropped on civilian areas. I just don't buy the Israeli as ineffectual bully argument. If anything, one could make the opposite argument. Why is such a solid military force killing so many non-combatants?
  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    jsand wrote:
    You obviously know little or nothing about military strategy. Israel would love to face a real military - one that doesn't hide behind civilians and hides weapons in civilian homes. They would destroy a real military very easily. The reason this conflict is dragging on is because Hezbollah, like all terrorist organizations, fight like cowards. They even wear civilian clothing.
    The reason for this is obvious, jsand. And to explain it I'm going to borrow a quote from Ed....Israel is giving "George Bush a blowjob.....with your lips." I dare say that Israel would be wiped into the ocean just like much of the mid-east wants if it weren't for the oral reference above.
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    don't gimme noI dare say that Israel would be wiped into the ocean just like much of the mid-east wants if it weren't for the oral reference above.[/quote wrote:

    And you think this is a good thing? Bad thing?
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    reborncareerist wrote:
    No, not bombs dropped on civilian areas. I just don't buy the Israeli as ineffectual bully argument. If anything, one could make the opposite argument. Why is such a solid military force killing so many non-combatants?

    true,

    An answer for that could be "Because they don't care" or "they really are not that solid"

    But we do know that israel does bomb civilian and destroy civilian areas, we see them do it in palestine all the time.
  • Alicia_Randi
    Alicia_Randi Posts: 3
    This is a conversation I didnt expect to see on here, but definately an interesting one. The only thing I want to say is that all you have to do is look at Israel on a map, Then look at where they are and who they are surrounded by. The countrys around them are easily 10x bigger then them, EGYPT, IRAN, IRAQ, all countries who have had a warring past with Israel. They have a great military, and they have been attacked for YEARS where they are and things wont change. Im happy over the way they are handling it, and refuse to accept what the media tries to feed me about whats going on over there. aka. That they are out of line for defending themselfs. Do you honestly think that in the future if it came down to it the U.S. and Canada will stick up for little old Israel, when all there oil friends are in surrounding huge areas.
    n' stuff
  • enharmonic
    enharmonic Posts: 1,917
    jsand wrote:
    You obviously know little or nothing about military strategy. Israel would love to face a real military - one that doesn't hide behind civilians and hides weapons in civilian homes. They would destroy a real military very easily. The reason this conflict is dragging on is because Hezbollah, like all terrorist organizations, fight like cowards. They even wear civilian clothing.

    I have forgotten more about military strategy than you will ever know. They have never faced a real military, and are getting hammered by a group of poorly trained rag-tag militants.

    Hizbollah aren't fighting like cowards. It's called Guerilla warfare. But you know that, what with your knowledge of military strategy and everything...lol.
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  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    reborncareerist wrote:
    And you think this is a good thing? Bad thing?
    Come on, you know I'm a peace-loving hippie. Of course that would be bad. But I don't see the need on the human scope of things for the U.S. & Israel to be killing so many people. Seems like if they can't stop or no one is willing to stop them then they may be better off in the ocean.
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Alicia_Randi wrote:
    This is a conversation I didnt expect to see on here, but definately an interesting one. The only thing I want to say is that all you have to do is look at Israel on a map, Then look at where they are and who they are surrounded by. The countrys around them are easily 10x bigger then them, EGYPT, IRAN, IRAQ, all countries who have had a warring past with Israel. They have a great military, and they have been attacked for YEARS where they are and things wont change. Im happy over the way they are handling it, and refuse to accept what the media tries to feed me about whats going on over there. aka. That they are out of line for defending themselfs. Do you honestly think that in the future if it came down to it the U.S. and Canada will stick up for little old Israel, when all there oil friends are in surrounding huge areas.

    look, the only reason they are in the middle of that place is because they took anothers land in the middle of that place. Jump in a fire, what, gonna get burned yeah? they put themselves in that area, it's not like they set up shop in some empty land then all these evil muslims came and decided to surround them.

    what did the zionists expect? open arms?

    I don't see how you can be happy with the way they are doing things, people are getting killed, and you are happy? very good.
  • enharmonic
    enharmonic Posts: 1,917
    don't gimme no wrote:
    Come on, you know I'm a peace-loving hippie. Of course that would be bad. But I don't see the need on the human scope of things for the U.S. & Israel to be killing so many people. Seems like if they can't stop or no one is willing to stop them then they may be better off in the ocean.

    I agree with you. Many people either forget or don't want to remember that there are a bunch of unaccounted for nukes floating around out there...all it takes is one...and believe me, the terrorists are certinly trying to get their hands on one.

    I don't think that there's a peaceful solution to any of this, but I'm not taking sides...unless you consider that I refuse to acknowledge Israel's agenda as taking sides. :)
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  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    enharmonic wrote:
    I have forgotten more about military strategy than you will ever know. They have never faced a real military, and are getting hammered by a group of poorly trained rag-tag militants.

    Hizbollah aren't fighting like cowards. It's called Guerilla warfare. But you know that, what with your knowledge of military strategy and everything...lol.

    Hizbollah is not a group of poorly trained rag-tags, at least not anymore, and losing 50 men in bomb/missile attacks while killing at least 200 of the enemy hardly constitutes getting hammered. Maybe its not as one-sided as the Israeli command would like, but they are executing the mission, so to speak.

    As for guerilla warfare ... Such a battle can be fought without hiding amongst civilians and wearing the other sides' uniforms. Even you must admit that these tactics are going to mean more Lebanese civilians dying from Israeli fire. What liberators or freedom fighters think it is OK to sacriface those they supposedly protect?
  • enharmonic
    enharmonic Posts: 1,917
    reborncareerist wrote:
    Hizbollah is not a group of poorly trained rag-tags, at least not anymore, and losing 50 men in bomb/missile attacks while killing at least 200 of the enemy hardly constitutes getting hammered. Maybe its not as one-sided as the Israeli command would like, but they are executing the mission, so to speak.

    As for guerilla warfare ... Such a battle can be fought without hiding amongst civilians and wearing the other sides' uniforms. Even you must admit that these tactics are going to mean more Lebanese civilians dying from Israeli fire. What liberators or freedom fighters think it is OK to sacriface those they supposedly protect?

    If the Lebanese had a problem with it, Hizbollah wouldn't be welcome there.
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  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    enharmonic wrote:
    If the Lebanese had a problem with it, Hizbollah wouldn't be welcome there.

    So by that logic, all Lebanese are complicit in Hizbollah's attacks on Israeli civilians and are thus valid military targets?
    I don't buy that for a second.

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