Kanye West

keeponrockin wrote:

I love Pearl Jam, favourite band, and would LOVE to have seen the 'Roo set. Having said that, at the festival environment, its not cool to play past your set time.

I'm pretty sure everyone knew that PJ was going to play for 3 hours long before the night of the show.

clark_kent wrote:

why would anyone have known that? it never would have occurred to me, those festivals are tightly regulated. pearl jam didn't play one minute over their allotted time at lollapalooza last year. i do think it's cool that they went all out for bonnaroo, but i also have to wonder a bit if pj didnt let their own egos out when they heard someone was going on after them and they weren't closing that night. i've seen the glow in the dark tour. it would have been pretty cool going on at 1 or 2am and lighting up the night after pearl jam finished. festivals are hard enough to pull off without people ignoring the schedules. i can understand why kanye was pissed off, even if it was pretty unclassy the way he lashed out.

Because, there set time was listed from 10-12 only when every other headliner got 3 hours. And, the org running Bonnaroo said that PJ could play as long as they wanted...I'm paraphrasing there...

You have to be kidding right? They had 1.5 hours to get the stage together before his show was scheduled to start anyhow...he was 1.5 hours late...since pearl jam only played 1 hour over anyhow, what about that other 30 minutes? It took Kanye 3 HOURS after PJ was done to come onto the stage.

And by the way, I was looking forward to Kaney and hoping his set woudl be amazing and really enjoyable...instead it was really corny. And singing on stage with all backing music is pretty lame too...hell, even American Idol using some real musicians.

muppet wrote:

Guess we differ on that. Van Morrison is an arsehole but he's made some of the most beautiful pieces of music of all time. I think John Lennon was a pretentious cunt but I still love his music

The first person who came to mind was Van Morrison when I thought about it. He's an ass but his music is incredible. I would support him. Kanye, not so much.

Pearl Jam play a lot longer than they were supposed to and Kanye is the dick? Amazing

Them-Bones wrote:

Pearl Jam went 45 minutes over, Kayne was 2 hours late

YOU DO THE MATH

Kanye was late because Pearl Jam went over, SOOO you do the math.

1STmammal2wearPants wrote:

Gee I dunno, he threw Pearl Jam under the bus, threw the fans under the bus for booing him, threw the stage crew under the bus calling them incompetent, all this after he whined and bitched about his set time and got moved to the biggest stage at a later time. Then when he pranced his ass out on the stage, he offered no sort of apology and played for just an hour. Not to mention, the next day, several artists, including Robert Randolph's Revival, called him out......I think it speaks a lot about a person that their ego must be that big that fellow colleagues in the music world say things about you, at the very festival that you are still at.

I agree 100%

Brian Posehn called him out too in the comedy tent- it was great!

http://www.bonnaroo.com/artists/brian-posehn.aspx

Gonzo1977 wrote:

Kayne is a joke
I'd rather have someone vomit in my ear than have to listen to Kayne West's god awful version of music.

You don't need a crystal ball to see that In the future, Kanye West's albums will sit along side the likes of MC Hammer, Vanilla Ice, Paula Abdul, and New Kids on The Block in bargin bins, garage sales, and Goodwill stores everywhere.

Another tragic and unfortunate mis-use of plastic and energy.

You are either too biased or too fucking stupid if you think that Kanyes music sucks. You may not like his antics, but he has more talent in his middle finger (That is in the air pointing towards people like you) than 95% of the bands/singers that are posted on this 'other band' forum.

Gonzo1977 wrote:

Kayne is a joke
I'd rather have someone vomit in my ear than have to listen to Kayne West's god awful version of music.

You don't need a crystal ball to see that In the future, Kanye West's albums will sit along side the likes of MC Hammer, Vanilla Ice, Paula Abdul, and New Kids on The Block in bargin bins, garage sales, and Goodwill stores everywhere.

Another tragic and unfortunate mis-use of plastic and energy.

you don't like music do you? to say Kanye makes "god awful music" is one of the most ignorant things i have ever heard...and maybe you do need a crystal ball because his albums will be looked at as defining pieces of music in this era.

SERIOUSLY DUDE WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU? please tell me what songs are garbage i would like to hear and please tell me you have heard more than Stronger...

PJ & Bompton wrote:

are you kidding me? average to poor? have you heard Takeover? Encore? Champion? Flashing Lights? We Major? H To The Izzo? Get By? Guerrila Monsoon Rap? This Can't Be Life? The Truth? Heart of the City? Never Change?

I could go on and on he is not an average producer

No I'm not kidding and yes I have heard them.

How Kanye is a household name and producers like DJ Premier and Pete Rock who have been at the forefront of the genre for 20 years and have made beats for EVERYONE are still languishing in relative obscurity is beyond me. Kanye's production technique basically extends no further than looping a few seconds from a classic soul, funk or hip-hop song and dropping a random drum beat on it. He's not an artist, he's an entertainer.

He used to be fairly promising, the Blueprint work in particular, although H to the Izzo is a good tune thanks entirely to the original Jackson Five tune. Kanye did nothing apart from looping a few seconds of it. These days he seems content to literally drop terrible rhymes over a barely changed Daft Punk tune and call it "sampling". It's lazy and shoddy work. Sorry, that's my opinion. Where's the innovation? Where's the kind of revolutionary filtering techniques that Large Professor and Premo ushered in? Where's the vast variety of source materials and obscure motifs that make this kind of music so interesting? Kanye is by no means a bad producer, he's just nothing special. His popularity is based on his skill at taking other people's tunes wholesale, rather than making his own. Fair play to him as a moneymaker, I'm just not going to give him props for artistic ability.

Jellyrolls wrote:

I'd be willing to bet everyone here bashing kanye west liked him before Bonnaroo...even though that incident was not his fault, but PJ's but apparently people here can't realize that.

I've never even heard about this Bonnaroo incident so I'm pretty sure you'd stand to lose some cash on that bet