Icky Thump vs. Avocada

otis mcfluster
otis mcfluster Posts: 536
edited July 2007 in Other Music
So now that Icky Thump has been released for a few weeks I thought I would pose this question:

Which album do you like more? Icky Thump or Avocado?

Vote here:
http://www.opinionpower.com/Surveys/622049340.html

Discuss below:
It was a tough decision for me, but in the end I chose Icky Thump. It certainly wouldn’t beat every PJ album in a head-to-head, but it just edges out Avocado in my mind.
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  • oktacoma
    oktacoma Posts: 335
    I love Icky Thump but I have to completely disagree. The Avocado is one of PJ's best efforts to date.
  • Obsidian22
    Obsidian22 Posts: 298
    It's like choosing apples vs oranges. No comparison. Why compare? After just seeing The White Stripes live in Toronto, last thursday, I still would pick (if I have to) AVACADO baby.
    I love Jack and Meg, but COME ON... Pearl Jam Rules. I can listen to any PJ album anytime,no contest there. 5 musicians are totally better than just 2.Pearl jam are too genius, and lets not forget about LYRICS people.
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  • The Pen Is Mightier
    The Pen Is Mightier Posts: 56
    I absolutley LOVE Icky Thump... but Pearl Jam is/has/and always will be my favorite band. I am biased, but I think all their albums (top to bottom) are better than any other album.

    Though for 2007... Icky Thump has been my favorite album.
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  • otis mcfluster
    otis mcfluster Posts: 536
    Obsidian22 wrote:
    It's like choosing apples vs oranges. No comparison. Why compare?
    Um...OK. Would you prefer an apple or an orange?
  • intodeep
    intodeep Posts: 7,249
    otis mcfluster wrote:
    Um...OK. Would you prefer an apple or an orange?

    I prefer an avacado

    but an icky thump is not bad either.
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  • Obsidian22
    Obsidian22 Posts: 298
    When choosing apples vs oranges, I would pick a mango over both, mixed with a little avacado!
    Stone and Mike are pure guitar cosmic rock energy, fueled by Eddie's vocals and master lyrical genius. Matt and Jeff are unbelievably talented and make the Jam stick.
    I love going on a ride, when listening to music. The White Stripes are fucking awesome, but holy fuck Jack's a bit of a bipolar space cadet, whose singing talent is questionable. Granted he is the main talent behind TWS, but every song is a little rollercoaster ride of insanity.
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  • piaget77
    piaget77 Posts: 156
    Avocado. No question.
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Hmm. I'm not gonna compare. Both kick ass.
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  • LostDog1079
    LostDog1079 Posts: 54
    Avocado vs. Icky Thump
    01. Life Wasted > Icky Thump (really close)
    02. WWS < You Don't Know What Love Is
    03. Comatose > 300 MPH Torrential Outpoor Blues
    04. Severed Hand > Conquest
    05. MITS > Bone Broke
    06. Parachutes > Prickly Thorn...
    07. Unemployable > St. Andrew
    08. Big Wave < Little Cream Soda
    09. Gone < Rag & Bone (no contest here)
    10. Wasted Reprise < I'm Slowly Turning Into You
    11. Army Reserve < A Martyr For My Love For You
    12. Come Back < Catch Hell Blues
    13. Inside Job < Effect & Cause

    6 for Avocado vs. 7 for Icky Thump in head-to-head.

    Overall, I like Icky Thump more.
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  • otis mcfluster
    otis mcfluster Posts: 536
    How about the fact that I misspelled Avocado in the thread title.

    I’m retarded.
  • CornishMan
    CornishMan Cornwall, UK Posts: 455
    I don't think this will be a fair contest on a Pearl Jam message forum! ;)

    Funny old thing... my vote is for Avocado!!
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  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,581
    1) - its avocado
    2) - dont even try to compare that with pearl jam
  • oppie1
    oppie1 Posts: 755
    otis mcfluster wrote:
    So now that Icky Thump has been released for a few weeks I thought I would pose this question:

    Which album do you like more? Icky Thump or Avocado?

    Vote here:
    http://www.opinionpower.com/Surveys/622049340.html

    Discuss below:
    It was a tough decision for me, but in the end I chose Icky Thump. It certainly wouldn’t beat every PJ album in a head-to-head, but it just edges out Avocado in my mind.
    avocado...

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  • idratherbe
    idratherbe Posts: 367
    oppie1 wrote:
    i would rather listen to the Michael Bolton library then hear 1 tune from the white stripes

    Well now THAT is just crazy talk. :D The Stripes put out some absolutely killer tunes -- pure rock the way very few produce any more.

    I vote for Avocado, though. :)

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  • oppie1
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    idratherbe wrote:
    Well now THAT is just crazy talk. :D The Stripes put out some absolutely killer tunes -- pure rock the way very few produce any more.

    I vote for Avocado, though. :)

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    i can't stand jacks voice, his awful guitar playing, or meg's kindergarten drumming talent..
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  • Obsidian22
    Obsidian22 Posts: 298
    I want to thank u for starting this thread. I am waiting on my Gorge cds, and Icky Thump from Amazon. I did hear Icky once since it was released. So, back to thanking you. Yeah I pulled out AVACADO today and listened to it for the gazillionith time. I am never bored or IRRRITATED by any of the tracks.
    My boyfriend can listen to Icky while I relish in live at the Gorge/06 for weeks and weeks.
    On a side note. My ears were ringing for 2 days from the loud screeching vocals of Jack and crazy guitar riffs. If I had to pick between Pearl Jam and TWS live show to go to. Hands down Pearl Jam. I remember going through a withdrawal period. The pit was a saving grace for me the following months our boys toured. Come back to Canada soon eh!
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  • Alex_Coe
    Alex_Coe Posts: 762
    I voted Icky Thump cause it has 3000 MPH Outpour and Catch Hell. Those two songs make it easy.
  • pjoasisrule
    pjoasisrule Posts: 3,412
    Avacado all day, has an incredibly replay value and such quality songs. One of my favorite Pearl Jam albums in fact.
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  • otis mcfluster
    otis mcfluster Posts: 536
    Here's the thing...

    My 5 favorite songs from Avocado:
    -Marker
    -Parachutes
    -Army Reserve
    -Come Back
    -Inside Job

    Perhaps the 5 "softest" songs on the album? That's not to say I am just a Vedder ballad type fan, I just really think that Pearl Jam's older "heavy" songs are lot's better than their recent harder stuff.

    For example, I think that:
    -Even Flow
    -Go
    -Once
    -Rearviewmirror
    -Last Exit
    -Hail, Hail

    Are far superior to:
    -Evacuation
    -Save You
    -Ghost
    -Life Wasted
    -World Wide Suicide
    -Big Wave

    I think that Green Disease is the bands most recent great heavy song. I'm sure some will argue the definition of heavy or aggressive or whatever. But that’s how I feel.

    In my mind PJ writes 4-5 amazing songs with every album, but over the last 3-4 albums all the great songs have been softer and less aggressive.

    The general consensus was that Avocado brought back the old aggressive PJ sound, but I think it was sort of tempered (slightly generic aggression) rather than the progressive and innovative sounds such as Marker, Parachutes, Inside Job, etc. Or like Even Flow, Last Exit, & Hail, Hail were when they debuted.

    So in my mind you have 2 attempts at aggressive rock music, Avocado & Icky Thump. I think Icky Thump was better executed. Hence my vote.
  • eclectic
    eclectic Posts: 244
    oppie1 wrote:
    avocado...

    i would rather listen to the Michael Bolton library then hear 1 tune from the white stripes

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