I dislike Chris Cornell

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  • dharma69
    dharma69 Posts: 1,275
    soulsinging wrote:
    but that i cant stand the sound of his voice.
    And that, folks, says it all.

    Who cares about technical ability, vocal control, range, power, blah, blah, blah...when you can't stand the sound of someone's voice?

    Simply "can't stand the sound of his voice". That alone should draw a conclusion to this thread.
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  • bharQ
    bharQ Posts: 1,201
    dharma69 wrote:
    And that, folks, says it all.

    Who cares about technical ability, vocal control, range, power, blah, blah, blah...when you can't stand the sound of someone's voice?

    Simply "can't stand the sound of his voice". That alone should draw a conclusion to this thread.

    yes but because of this he was claiming cornell sucked..
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  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    dharma69 wrote:
    And that, folks, says it all.

    Who cares about technical ability, vocal control, range, power, blah, blah, blah...when you can't stand the sound of someone's voice?

    Simply "can't stand the sound of his voice". That alone should draw a conclusion to this thread.

    Way to miss the point.........

    Had the original post said "I can't stand the way his voice sounds", I doubt I would have posted anything in this thread. But when somebody brings into doubt whether he can sing or not based on not liking his vocal tone, I find it hard not to react - since tone has nothing to do with whether someone is a 'good' singer.
  • dharma69
    dharma69 Posts: 1,275
    bharQ wrote:
    yes but because of this he was claiming cornell sucked..
    But Cornell does suck...to him. There will probably be no changing that.

    And no point was missed...in fact the one that you're debating with isn't even the one who started this thread; the source of your ire.

    But on any note, cheers and carry on.
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    facepollution wrote:
    If you have no idea what technical ability (in terms of singing) is, may I suggest you aren't best equipped to be passing judgement on somebody's ability to sing. For the record, I quite clearly stated in more than one post EXACTLY why people rate him as a singer (range/power/control), this was merely a rebuttal of the claim that he was overrated. As a technical singer (sorry if you don't understand that term) he is not overrated at all. If someone doesn't like his vocal tone, or songwriting abilities, that is a completely separate issue, and to that I would say, 'whatever butters your muffin'.

    once again, where did i ever comment on his ability to sing? i said i cant stand the sound of his voice.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    dharma69 wrote:
    And that, folks, says it all.

    Who cares about technical ability, vocal control, range, power, blah, blah, blah...when you can't stand the sound of someone's voice?

    Simply "can't stand the sound of his voice". That alone should draw a conclusion to this thread.

    why not? people dismiss u2 becos they had a song in a commercial. dismiss creed becos of the sound of his voice. dismiss modest mouse becos they're too weird. how is subjective taste somehow an irrational grounds for disliking a particular musician?
  • dharma69
    dharma69 Posts: 1,275
    soulsinging wrote:
    why not? people dismiss u2 becos they had a song in a commercial. dismiss creed becos of the sound of his voice. dismiss modest mouse becos they're too weird. how is subjective taste somehow an irrational grounds for disliking a particular musician?
    It isn't.....

    I think you have me confused with someone else.
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    dharma69 wrote:
    It isn't.....

    I think you have me confused with someone else.

    i got the impression "Who cares about technical ability, vocal control, range, power, blah, blah, blah...when you can't stand the sound of someone's voice?" was supposed to be kinda sarcastic. like who needs talent? if you were being serious, then you're right, that has basically been my point. you can have all the technical ability in the world, but if it doesn't reach people it doesn't matter. conversely, you can be limited in your abilities but still shake people up (kurt cobain on guitar, ringo starr on drums).

    and the whole technical ability thing really lost weight with me when my ex-gf said ed was a horrible singer and incapable of singing on key. i dont know if she was right or not (anyone?) but once i heard her say it i decided id never give a fuck what anybody said about a particular musician's technical ability.
  • dharma69
    dharma69 Posts: 1,275
    No worries....and see my last post on the previous page.

    Later,...
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  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    soulsinging wrote:
    and the whole technical ability thing really lost weight with me when my ex-gf said ed was a horrible singer and incapable of singing on key. i dont know if she was right or not (anyone?) but once i heard her say it i decided id never give a fuck what anybody said about a particular musician's technical ability.

    I suspect your ex was talking about from a technical stance, i.e ed may not have the best technique in the world. And by your reasoning, you are denying the existence of vocal talent. I absolutely 100% agree that an amazing voice shouldn't be what defines a performer's talent - some of my favourite singers are very average singers, but they have plenty of other things going for them. It just pisses me off when people won't even acknowledge somebody's talent. It's like denying a certain footballer is a good player despite the fact they have scored the most goals in a season.

    If the original poster wanted to make a more interesting post they should have said why they think his voice sucks, rather than just making inflammatory remarks.
  • mike_s_6
    mike_s_6 Posts: 160
    It's amazing how much replies this thread has had :lol:

    I think it's juvenile (100x) to use the word "sucks" without quantifying it. He has talent, he has moved and inspired a good number of people I know, artists and whatnot. I think I have enough reason to say... he's talented!
  • Poyndexter
    Poyndexter Posts: 92
    mike_s_6 wrote:
    It's amazing how much replies this thread has had :lol:

    I think it's juvenile (100x) to use the word "sucks" without quantifying it. He has talent, he has moved and inspired a good number of people I know, artists and whatnot. I think I have enough reason to say... he's talented!
    Good point. But I said "I think" he sucks. Sorry, I just don't like his voice. Different strokes for different folks.
  • muppet
    muppet Posts: 980
    Riiiiiiiiiiituaaaal!
  • Binaural
    Binaural Posts: 1,046
    Poyndexter wrote:
    Good point. But I said "I think" he sucks. Sorry, I just don't like his voice. Different strokes for different folks.

    Just to clarify-

    "I don't like his voice" and "His voice sucks" are not synonymous.
    "I don't like his voice" - Very straightfoward, means what it says, is a reflection of opinion.
    "I think his voice sucks" - That has nothing to do with opinion, the quality of ones voice is judged on a number of things such as range, power, technical ability etc AND regardless of whether or not you like his voice, his high ranking in the aforementioned categories is undeniable. I MUCH PREFER Eds voice yet if I were to say he had a BETTER voice I'd be lying, he doesn't, despite the fact that I'd take Ed's voice over ornell's anyday.
    Hopefully this is a case of you misunderstanding your words, cause if you seriously believe he can't sing, well it's confusing.
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  • Blyss
    Blyss Posts: 166
    i wasn't a huge fan of his but you listen to dissapearing one from europhia morning :o shivers down the spine.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Binaural wrote:
    Just to clarify-

    "I don't like his voice" and "His voice sucks" are not synonymous.
    "I don't like his voice" - Very straightfoward, means what it says, is a reflection of opinion.
    "I think his voice sucks" - That has nothing to do with opinion, the quality of ones voice is judged on a number of things such as range, power, technical ability etc AND regardless of whether or not you like his voice, his high ranking in the aforementioned categories is undeniable. I MUCH PREFER Eds voice yet if I were to say he had a BETTER voice I'd be lying, he doesn't, despite the fact that I'd take Ed's voice over ornell's anyday.
    Hopefully this is a case of you misunderstanding your words, cause if you seriously believe he can't sing, well it's confusing.

    what are you, an attorney? you're just playing semantics here... regardless of which he typed it's clear the either one is his opinion. i think his voice sucks means i THINK his voice sucks. that's a clear expression of his dislike for the sound of the voice. it's not like he said "his vocal abilities are crap and his technique is horrible." you're looking for reasons to be offended.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    muppet wrote:
    Riiiiiiiiiiituaaaal!

    amen... this should put an end to this thread immediately. that screech is cringe-inducing.
  • searchlightsoul
    searchlightsoul Posts: 583
    It is pretty clear that this guy is just stirring things up. He has simply decided to take an outrageous stand point and defend it and then go and run behind the "its my opinion" banner. I wonder whether he really expected to find more than one other person who actually would support him or does he just like to get caned by the firm hand of truth?
  • PJammin'
    PJammin' Posts: 1,913
    Poyndexter wrote:
    I'm sorry. I think he sucks as a singer. Different strokes for different folks. Gimme Eddie, Layne or the guy from Seven Mary Three.

    this thread sucks. "gimme" something with substance. i'm just in this thread to practice my typing skills.
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  • Ten Dude
    Ten Dude Posts: 50
    Why all the rage towards Cornell? He put out awesome albums with Soundgarden and pretty good ones as a member of Audioslave. Certainly, he was one of the better vocalists to come out of the Seattle scene and that takes some talent.

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