Why do people feel so bad when Syd Barrett dies?

*Boy
*Boy Posts: 112
edited July 2006 in Other Music
A. Drugs killed him decades ago, as long as no one forced him taking that crap, its all his own fault.

B. His hasn't produced any music in forever, so the music is still there.....


so why feel bad?


p.s. i love his work, but don't really feel bad at all about what happened, his music is still here.
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  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    because its sad when anyone dies, especially when they died a hermit after a long and famous decline. don't you think?
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  • *Boy
    *Boy Posts: 112
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    because its sad when anyone dies, especially when they died a hermit after a long and famous decline. don't you think?

    not really, not after what he has done to himself.
    ~It is better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not ~

    ~You laugh because I am different, I laugh because you are all the fucking same ~

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  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Syd lost his father aged twelve and was heavily traumatised. He may have exhibited schizophrenic tendencies long prior to any drug use. Also, he may well have been suffering from extreme Asperger's. These factors brought about the decline of arguably one of the very best and most promising songwriters in popular music. Syd's use of acid is legendary, but there were many things out of Syd's control that brought him down, and popular music was all the poorer for his retirement.
  • *Boy
    *Boy Posts: 112
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    Syd lost his father aged twelve and was heavily traumatised. He may have exhibited schizophrenic tendencies long prior to any drug use. Also, he may well have been suffering from extreme Asperger's. These factors brought about the decline of arguably one of the very best and most promising songwriters in popular music. Syd's use of acid is legendary, but there were many things out of Syd's control that brought him down, and popular music was all the poorer for his retirement.


    well, see i did know all of that. I've never cared about artists private lives just the music. thanks for the update.
    ~It is better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not ~

    ~You laugh because I am different, I laugh because you are all the fucking same ~

    ~Education is the most powerfull weapon you can use to change the world - Nelson Mandela~

    ~chaka boom chak -Tom Waits~
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    You don't care about people's private lives? Then why make such self righteous pronouncements as

    "Drugs killed him decades ago, as long as no one forced him taking that crap, its all his own fault."

    That's what I call damned hypocrisy.
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    You don't care about people's private lives? Then why make such self righteous pronouncements as

    "Drugs killed him decades ago, as long as no one forced him taking that crap, its all his own fault."

    That's what I call damned hypocrisy.

    I totally agree.

    People take drugs for a variety of reasons, most often as a form of escapism. Who is anyone to judge whether one person's reason for taking drugs is justified? well whoppee for you if you live a nice happy life whereby you wouldn't ever feel the need to self-medicate - but plenty of people don't.
  • Toolgarden
    Toolgarden Posts: 88
    *Boy wrote:
    A. Drugs killed him decades ago, as long as no one forced him taking that crap, its all his own fault.

    B. His hasn't produced any music in forever, so the music is still there.....


    so why feel bad?


    p.s. i love his work, but don't really feel bad at all about what happened, his music is still here.

    Why feel bad? Because many people are capable of compassion, which is a quality that is apparently beyond your comprehension.
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  • *Boy
    *Boy Posts: 112
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    You don't care about people's private lives? Then why make such self righteous pronouncements as

    "Drugs killed him decades ago, as long as no one forced him taking that crap, its all his own fault."

    That's what I call damned hypocrisy.

    you are right (no sarcasm), i based it on what i did know and shouldn't have started this thing without checking the facts
    ~It is better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not ~

    ~You laugh because I am different, I laugh because you are all the fucking same ~

    ~Education is the most powerfull weapon you can use to change the world - Nelson Mandela~

    ~chaka boom chak -Tom Waits~
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    *Boy wrote:
    well, see i did know all of that. I've never cared about artists private lives just the music. thanks for the update.

    And this is a contradictory statement for a start. How did you know all of that detailed data if you never cared about artists' private lives, just the music?
  • reeferchief
    reeferchief Posts: 3,569
    *Boy wrote:
    A. Drugs killed him decades ago, as long as no one forced him taking that crap, its all his own fault.

    B. His hasn't produced any music in forever, so the music is still there.....


    so why feel bad?


    p.s. i love his work, but don't really feel bad at all about what happened, his music is still here.

    How very condescending and opinionated of you, loads of people like Pink Floyd around here so theres obviously gonna be a lot about it, if your not bothered just leave the threads alone.
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  • *Boy
    *Boy Posts: 112
    facepollution wrote:
    I totally agree.

    People take drugs for a variety of reasons, most often as a form of escapism. Who is anyone to judge whether one person's reason for taking drugs is justified? well whoppee for you if you live a nice happy life whereby you wouldn't ever feel the need to self-medicate - but plenty of people don't.

    i've actually been diagnosed with a light form of schizophrenia as well but i refuse to take medications. also i refuse to take drugs to escape from my depressions because i prefer to be in reality. yes it hurts like a motherfucker but at least its fucking real. im dealing
    ~It is better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not ~

    ~You laugh because I am different, I laugh because you are all the fucking same ~

    ~Education is the most powerfull weapon you can use to change the world - Nelson Mandela~

    ~chaka boom chak -Tom Waits~
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    I'll leave this thread, just saying that Cambridge people are a bit broken hearted tonight. Their golden boy, their most famous musical son, is gone.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    *Boy wrote:
    not really, not after what he has done to himself.
    so if someone trys drugs and loses control then we should condemn them and not treat them as a human being? maybe one day you'll make a mistake. I'm guessing if that happened you'd still want people to feel compassion when you died?
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  • *Boy
    *Boy Posts: 112
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    And this is a contradictory statement for a start. How did you know all of that detailed data if you never cared about artists' private lives, just the music?

    just because i don't care doesnt mean im blind and deaf towards it
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    ~You laugh because I am different, I laugh because you are all the fucking same ~

    ~Education is the most powerfull weapon you can use to change the world - Nelson Mandela~

    ~chaka boom chak -Tom Waits~
  • Milestone
    Milestone Posts: 1,140
    *Boy wrote:

    p.s. i love his work, but don't really feel bad at all about what happened, his music is still here.

    60 is a relatively young age to die.

    Even if he were 97 years old, it would make the news.

    What's your problem?
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  • *Boy
    *Boy Posts: 112
    *Boy wrote:
    well, see i did know all of that. I've never cared about artists private lives just the music. thanks for the update.

    oh shit i just noticed i meant to say DIDN'T!!! my bad....now i understand your reaction....
    ~It is better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not ~

    ~You laugh because I am different, I laugh because you are all the fucking same ~

    ~Education is the most powerfull weapon you can use to change the world - Nelson Mandela~

    ~chaka boom chak -Tom Waits~
  • *Boy
    *Boy Posts: 112
    Jesus this thing derailed completely.....

    ok let me clarify some things.....

    -I do like the man in question, he was a musical genius
    -i didn't say i didn't care about his death, just that i don't feel as bad as many people seem to feel. people die everyday, people who have contributed more to this world than him, and no one is crying about them.
    -I actually am a very compassionate person (which is where my depressions and other issues are spawned from)
    - "escape is never the safest path"

    sorry if i caused any trouble or insult to anyone, i didn't intent to do so.
    ~It is better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not ~

    ~You laugh because I am different, I laugh because you are all the fucking same ~

    ~Education is the most powerfull weapon you can use to change the world - Nelson Mandela~

    ~chaka boom chak -Tom Waits~
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,037
    *Boy wrote:
    not really, not after what he has done to himself.


    what he has done to himself?? um....let's consider what he's done for all of us: he CREATED PINK FLOYD
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  • kdpjam
    kdpjam Posts: 2,303
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    I'll leave this thread, just saying that Cambridge people are a bit broken hearted tonight. Their golden boy, their most famous musical son, is gone.


    ;( i'm sad too...
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  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    *Boy wrote:
    i've actually been diagnosed with a light form of schizophrenia as well but i refuse to take medications. also i refuse to take drugs to escape from my depressions because i prefer to be in reality. yes it hurts like a motherfucker but at least its fucking real. im dealing

    And you think that someone who choses the other path deserves less sympathy? Nobody is perfect, and everyone deserves some kind of respect, and to say someone shouldn't be missed because they created their own downfall, in my view is pretty harsh.

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