yeah...........what Travis said!!! Plus they DO kick ass live.....I've seen them 14 times so far, 7 each tour and they've come a long way and they're not done growing......pick away if you wish.......it doesn't matter......don't like em, don't listen............simple...........but just because some of you don't like them, does NOT mean they suck.
I think Audioslave is better off broken up to be quite honest. I liked Soundgarden, I loved RATM, but this isn't working. And it's got nothing to do with the drummer.
Cornell and Morello compromise their styles and strengths in this band, when they should be complimenting eachother. I think Cornell could have a very successful solo career, and he'd be making better music. I liked his solo stuff a lot. And the remains of RATM would be much better off with Morello providing the main creative direction for a harder band.
I would like some of these Audioslave and Velvet Revolver bashers to please offer some alternatives... Rock radio these days is INFESTED with EMO SHIT so when a new Audioslave or Velvet Revolver arrives, I have to buy it because I NEED straight up new rock and roll. I can't think of any other bands that can offer that to me. And there are a ton of bands who's songs sound the same, especially to people who don't pay attention to the lyrics, which is what I think we have here. All I require from these guys is a solid rock record, and they deliver every time.
Oceansize
Porcupine Tree
QOTSA
Animal Pharm
Jordan Cook
Muse finally made a good album worthy of their hype. Even the new Helmet rocks harder, though Page Hamilton is no Chris Cornell.
Some good bands there. Are you in the Uk? Going to see Porcupine Tree @ Astoria in September?
Sadly, I am not in the UK. It's twice as hard for me to find the good stuff because most of it has already happened by the time it gets here.
We have some good bands, but the music that is having the biggest influence on me these days comes from the UK for the most part.
Oh, and http://www.jordancook.com/ for those of you who don't know him. His band consists of Ben Shepherd on bass, and Matt Chamberlain on drums. That doesn't suck.
I like AS. I have both thier albums and saw them live. They were great live I thought.
However, I do think Brad Wilk needs to go and Tom needs to mix it up a bit with the solos. It gets so fucking annoying listening to them sometimes cause they are so predictable now. every song goes like this:
verse
chorus
verse
chorus
build/breakdown of somekind
solo
Chorus
end
Has anyone else noticed that??? Change the arrangements!!!
I am not saying all the songs SOUND the same, cause they dont. Its just the way they are arranged.
God its annoying. I just notice they have done that same arrangement in all their albums since Evil Empire. I think a new drummer would change that. Does anyone else notice that? It was kickass in RATM, but now its just overdone and boring cause its so predictable. I heard original fire for the first time and I called out how the song would go and I was right. They need to challenge themselves more. Or fire Brad. He used to be good, but he lost it. So did morello in a way but I know he can redeem himself. Chris is great tho! I cant wait for the solo shit.
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I think Audioslave are weak all together... There is something missing I'm not sure if it's Brad Wilk at all. I think Cornell just doesnt fit with the RATM type sound matched with the fact that Cornell's vocals makes my stomach churn these days.
I'm not a big Audio Slave fan either, but Cornel is gettign ready to work on a solo album as we speak rather than tour with the band, so maybe he's starting to feel the same way. They all claim that things are great and that they all just have alot going on in their lives, but it seems to me that he feels a little stifled in that lineup. I haven't enjoyed anything he's done in a while, but he really does have the potential to put out a truley great album.
Let's keep our fingers crossed. Dog knows popular music could use a kick in the A.
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Fair enough if you don't like them, but their songs do not all sound the same. Be yourself doesn't sound like Cochise, or Shadow on the sun, or Doesn't Remind me, or Original Fire, or Wide Awake etc etc. I can totally understand people not liking them, but please enough with the lame insults.
Let me get this out of the way, I love Audioslave. They are way better than most bands out there. I agree with you on the difference of songs BUT, they are lazy at times. Cochise & Your Time Has Come have a STRIKING similiarties in terms of the main guitar riff. Like A Stone & Be Yourself, same deal. Thats my only beef with them.
Name me another modern rock song right now that sounds comparable with Original Fire. It's not one of their best songs, but I don't think generic is really the right word at all.
Name me another modern rock song right now that sounds comparable with Original Fire. It's not one of their best songs, but I don't think generic is really the right word at all.
Just compared with alot of other great stuff out there its generic.
It maybe a good Audioslave song for Audioslave fans but for me, someone who was a huge Soundgarden and RATM, it sounds very uninspired and, ironically, unoriginal.
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I think I might have figured out part of the problem with the drumming. It's not so much that he's a bad drummer, but it's the fact that the drums are so LOUD on the Audioslave's albums. I think the loudness makes his average drumming much more noticeable, and therefore all subtlety is lost and it gets boring. I bet if the drumming were mixed a bit softer it would sound a lot better.
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I think Wilk is quite powerful and satisfactory on the straight songs, like Cochise, Exploder, I Am the Highway, Be Yourself, etc., but whenever he tries to do something more complicated, like the chorus or Your Time Has Come, he sounds sloppy and kinda kills the energy.
The words you say never seem to live up to the ones inside your head...
seriously, i LOVE wilk's style. listen more, and you'll see.
now is he my most fave drummer of all time? no, he's not quite as nuanced as a few others that i love...such as stewart copeland or jose from incubus for example...however, brad wilk is still quite good and i personally think a great fit for ratm/audioslave.
Audioslave are so piss poor it's embarrassing, to be honest. Probably the first thing I noticed back when they released the first album was how pedestrian the drums were, how he never seemed to stray from the standard beat of a song. In fairness, i've been listening to rock music for about the last 15 years and I really expect a little more from a rhythm section than just standard drumming that could easily have been programmed on a drum machine.
Imagine what someone like Jimmy Chambewrlain would do to an Audioslave song. I'm sure most of you have heard songs like Jellybelly by SP, that's what modern rock drumming should bloody well sound like! The drums are so important to bringing a band from just average to great, imagine what Siamese Dream would have sounded like with freaking wilk behind the drums. Boring is what!
Of course, he's not the only problem with Audioslave. The whole format just doesn't work. Morellos solos and riffs get more and more predictable with every album, he has seriously run out of ideas, big time. Cornell sounds okay, but not a patch on his SG days.
I don't think you can break up Brad and Tim up because their chemistry is great once they hit their stride together, and I think they've finally hit it on "Revelations."
I think Audioslave would be a lot better if they got a different guitarist.
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Cornell and Morello compromise their styles and strengths in this band, when they should be complimenting eachother. I think Cornell could have a very successful solo career, and he'd be making better music. I liked his solo stuff a lot. And the remains of RATM would be much better off with Morello providing the main creative direction for a harder band.
Oceansize
Porcupine Tree
QOTSA
Animal Pharm
Jordan Cook
Muse finally made a good album worthy of their hype. Even the new Helmet rocks harder, though Page Hamilton is no Chris Cornell.
old music: http://www.myspace.com/slowloader
you're off your nut!
Some good bands there. Are you in the Uk? Going to see Porcupine Tree @ Astoria in September?
Sadly, I am not in the UK. It's twice as hard for me to find the good stuff because most of it has already happened by the time it gets here.
We have some good bands, but the music that is having the biggest influence on me these days comes from the UK for the most part.
Oh, and http://www.jordancook.com/ for those of you who don't know him. His band consists of Ben Shepherd on bass, and Matt Chamberlain on drums. That doesn't suck.
old music: http://www.myspace.com/slowloader
However, I do think Brad Wilk needs to go and Tom needs to mix it up a bit with the solos. It gets so fucking annoying listening to them sometimes cause they are so predictable now. every song goes like this:
verse
chorus
verse
chorus
build/breakdown of somekind
solo
Chorus
end
Has anyone else noticed that??? Change the arrangements!!!
I am not saying all the songs SOUND the same, cause they dont. Its just the way they are arranged.
God its annoying. I just notice they have done that same arrangement in all their albums since Evil Empire. I think a new drummer would change that. Does anyone else notice that? It was kickass in RATM, but now its just overdone and boring cause its so predictable. I heard original fire for the first time and I called out how the song would go and I was right. They need to challenge themselves more. Or fire Brad. He used to be good, but he lost it. So did morello in a way but I know he can redeem himself. Chris is great tho! I cant wait for the solo shit.
Let's keep our fingers crossed. Dog knows popular music could use a kick in the A.
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Erm are you kidding all of us???
I wouldn't want him drumming on my stuff...but that's just me.
old music: http://www.myspace.com/slowloader
Let me get this out of the way, I love Audioslave. They are way better than most bands out there. I agree with you on the difference of songs BUT, they are lazy at times. Cochise & Your Time Has Come have a STRIKING similiarties in terms of the main guitar riff. Like A Stone & Be Yourself, same deal. Thats my only beef with them.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Original Fire is sooo generic.
That would certainly be a vast improvement. I agree with many in this thread, Wilk is dull.
Name me another modern rock song right now that sounds comparable with Original Fire. It's not one of their best songs, but I don't think generic is really the right word at all.
Just compared with alot of other great stuff out there its generic.
It maybe a good Audioslave song for Audioslave fans but for me, someone who was a huge Soundgarden and RATM, it sounds very uninspired and, ironically, unoriginal.
seriously, i LOVE wilk's style. listen more, and you'll see.
now is he my most fave drummer of all time? no, he's not quite as nuanced as a few others that i love...such as stewart copeland or jose from incubus for example...however, brad wilk is still quite good and i personally think a great fit for ratm/audioslave.
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Imagine what someone like Jimmy Chambewrlain would do to an Audioslave song. I'm sure most of you have heard songs like Jellybelly by SP, that's what modern rock drumming should bloody well sound like! The drums are so important to bringing a band from just average to great, imagine what Siamese Dream would have sounded like with freaking wilk behind the drums. Boring is what!
Of course, he's not the only problem with Audioslave. The whole format just doesn't work. Morellos solos and riffs get more and more predictable with every album, he has seriously run out of ideas, big time. Cornell sounds okay, but not a patch on his SG days.
Ech, Audioslave just doesn't work!
I think Audioslave would be a lot better if they got a different guitarist.
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