Incubus

Jellyrolls wrote:

Brandon Boyd has one of the best voices I have ever heard..it's flawless

hes a cool artist too. he did all the drawing in the Drive video, didn't he?

Man_Of_The_Hour wrote:

For their general sound. Some people would say that they have a DJ and that would make them Nu Metal. But thats just nonsense. I think it's rather how they sound as a whole. Big riff at the beginning of a song, then more mellow verses and one big noisy guitar attack and Boyd's wailing over it as a chorus. Thats what Nu Metal sounds to me anyway. Staind are certainly Nu Metal and I think Incubus sounds way more like Staind than they sound like PJ. Maybe calling them Nu Metal takes it a bit too far but I think they're rather that than alt rock. But I guess this labeling thing is fuzzy anyway. Can anyone relate to what I've just said?

I think they are far from Nu-Metal...They definately have their roots in the 90's so called grunge sound. On morning view and A Crow Left of The Murder they have more of a clasic rock sound, although not quite classic rock, much similar to pearl Jam's early music or perhaps Rage against the Machine.

i have no idea what nu metal is, doesn't sound very appealing from what you say either. however, i also don't think incubus sound like pearl jam either. not at all. i think incubus sounds like, well, incubus. early on, especially their basslines, reminded me of the chili peppers. more in an homage sorta way, not a rip-off, but an influence. nowadays, i think they have their own sound...unique to them.

personally, i think they have really rich musical textures.....great basslines....and percussion! jose is a fecking phenomenal drummer...amazing. no matter what, to me, a great band. love their music.

Pacomc79 wrote:

When I think of NU Metal, I think of Mesa Boogie triple Rectifiers, the "Civic.com" "Punk" tour and drop D tuned Paul Reed Smiths solid bodies (Einziger plays a PRS Hollowbody Spruce). Staind Yes, absolutely, The Deftones, Korn, even throw Good Charlotte, Linkin Park and Nickleback even Slipknot in there.

Incubus no, not even close. It's a socal sound definately but far from Nu Metal the way I think of Nu Metal. They are fairly unique actually, even if the parts are similar to other bands. Einziger does use Mesas but they are mark ones (hot rodded fenders essentially) and others I'm sure that aren't really focused on gained out madness it's more of an effected guitar kind of tone with heavy phasing and the like than only heavy driving distortion. The solos owe more to jam bands than Nu Metal bands. His guitar tone is more Johnny Greenwood than Papa Roach. That, and they have more obvious musical talent than any of the Nu Metal bands I mentioned.

I definately see where you are coming from, I just don't agree that's quite where they are.

You are way too informed for me to be arguing with you

In my top 3 favorite bands...

all4

Nickelback isn't nu-metal at all. It is just shitty rock music.

And I think lumping incubus in with Nu-metal is tenuous at best. II'd just call them a meat and potatoes rock band.

Man_Of_The_Hour wrote:

OK to settle this I searched for Nu Metal-sounding songs on Make Yourself. Let me note that I didnt say I wouldnt like Incubus or that they WERE Nu Metal. I said they have some good stuff but that they are TOO Nu Metal to be one of my faves. Other than that it was fun to discuss this Nu Metal thing in this thread since no one flamed me for it even though I was the only one with the Nu Metal view.

So here it goes.

Privilege - wall-of-sound-riff right at the beginning (those kind of riffing I associate with Nu Metal and not with Inie Rock), Boyd wailing over the big riff in the chorus

Nowhere Fast - Big riffing at the beginning again, and wailing over a wall-of-sound in the chorus

Consequence - Boyd's rap-like delivery in the verses ( I know that one's a bit questionable), but big wailing in the chorus again

Warmth - the way the DJ carries the song

When It Comes - rap-vocals, wailing, big riffing

Pardon Me - Riffing, rap, chorus long melodies

Out From Under - Riff at the beginning, rapstyle, chorus

I'll not bother you with Nu Metal now anymore, otherwise we'll just have to agree to disagree. On a sidenote, this is a pretty good album.

it's ok, we forgive you. haha. i STILL don't know what nu metal is, or is meant to sound like...and don't quite get the whole riff bit...but whatever. i don't concern myself much with labels, ever. i think they are a great band, with a great sound. works for me.

Man_Of_The_Hour wrote:

Here's some info on it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nu_metal and here's a list of Nu Metal groups http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nu_metal_musical_groups

Just reading through the groups should give you an idea what they sound like.

Basically you're right, labeling is hard and not a good thing to do, but it's just human nature to have definitions and terms and putting things in categories.

i know maybe 5? bands on that list ...and not all that well, b/c didn't love the small sampling i have heard. so given that, i just don't see the incubus connection given how much i love their music.

sure, i hear ya. all things get labelled and put neatly into their little boxes, in all media. in the visual arts it is the same. however, they don't always quite fit into those neat little categories....so i usually prefer broad terms at best.

anyhoo...call them what you like, and i'll simply call em a great band.

jose definitely one of THE best drummers out there.

one of my most incubus tunes.....and definitely NOT numetal in sound

Aqueous Transmission

I'm floating down a river
Oars freed from their holes long ago
Lying face up on the floor of my vessel
I marvel at the stars
And feel my heart overflow

Further down the river

Two weeks without my lover
I'm in this boat alone
Floating down a river named emotion
Will I make it back to shore
Or drift into the unknown

Further down the river

I'm building an antenna
Transmissions will be sent when I am through
Maybe we'll meet again further down the river
And share what we both discovered...
Then revel in the view

Further down the river



beautiful.

Man_Of_The_Hour wrote:

OK to settle this I searched for Nu Metal-sounding songs on Make Yourself. Let me note that I didnt say I wouldnt like Incubus or that they WERE Nu Metal. I said they have some good stuff but that they are TOO Nu Metal to be one of my faves. Other than that it was fun to discuss this Nu Metal thing in this thread since no one flamed me for it even though I was the only one with the Nu Metal view.

So here it goes.

Privilege - wall-of-sound-riff right at the beginning (those kind of riffing I associate with Nu Metal and not with Inie Rock), Boyd wailing over the big riff in the chorus

Nowhere Fast - Big riffing at the beginning again, and wailing over a wall-of-sound in the chorus

Consequence - Boyd's rap-like delivery in the verses ( I know that one's a bit questionable), but big wailing in the chorus again

Warmth - the way the DJ carries the song

When It Comes - rap-vocals, wailing, big riffing

Pardon Me - Riffing, rap, chorus long melodies

Out From Under - Riff at the beginning, rapstyle, chorus

I'll not bother you with Nu Metal now anymore, otherwise we'll just have to agree to disagree. On a sidenote, this is a pretty good album.

Just a question regarding your Nu-metal opinion. Do you consider Soundgarden's Badmotorfinger Nu-metal since alot of the songs on there are sort of wall-of-sound riffs with Cornell wailing over the top of them?