OK to settle this I searched for Nu Metal-sounding songs on Make Yourself. Let me note that I didnt say I wouldnt like Incubus or that they WERE Nu Metal. I said they have some good stuff but that they are TOO Nu Metal to be one of my faves. Other than that it was fun to discuss this Nu Metal thing in this thread since no one flamed me for it even though I was the only one with the Nu Metal view.
So here it goes.
Privilege - wall-of-sound-riff right at the beginning (those kind of riffing I associate with Nu Metal and not with Inie Rock), Boyd wailing over the big riff in the chorus
Nowhere Fast - Big riffing at the beginning again, and wailing over a wall-of-sound in the chorus
Consequence - Boyd's rap-like delivery in the verses ( I know that one's a bit questionable), but big wailing in the chorus again
Warmth - the way the DJ carries the song
When It Comes - rap-vocals, wailing, big riffing
Pardon Me - Riffing, rap, chorus long melodies
Out From Under - Riff at the beginning, rapstyle, chorus
I'll not bother you with Nu Metal now anymore, otherwise we'll just have to agree to disagree. On a sidenote, this is a pretty good album.
Well, do you need a lot of what you've got to survive?
OK to settle this I searched for Nu Metal-sounding songs on Make Yourself. Let me note that I didnt say I wouldnt like Incubus or that they WERE Nu Metal. I said they have some good stuff but that they are TOO Nu Metal to be one of my faves. Other than that it was fun to discuss this Nu Metal thing in this thread since no one flamed me for it even though I was the only one with the Nu Metal view.
So here it goes.
Privilege - wall-of-sound-riff right at the beginning (those kind of riffing I associate with Nu Metal and not with Inie Rock), Boyd wailing over the big riff in the chorus
Nowhere Fast - Big riffing at the beginning again, and wailing over a wall-of-sound in the chorus
Consequence - Boyd's rap-like delivery in the verses ( I know that one's a bit questionable), but big wailing in the chorus again
Warmth - the way the DJ carries the song
When It Comes - rap-vocals, wailing, big riffing
Pardon Me - Riffing, rap, chorus long melodies
Out From Under - Riff at the beginning, rapstyle, chorus
I'll not bother you with Nu Metal now anymore, otherwise we'll just have to agree to disagree. On a sidenote, this is a pretty good album.
it's ok, we forgive you. haha. i STILL don't know what nu metal is, or is meant to sound like...and don't quite get the whole riff bit...but whatever. i don't concern myself much with labels, ever. i think they are a great band, with a great sound. works for me.
it's ok, we forgive you. haha. i STILL don't know what nu metal is, or is meant to sound like...and don't quite get the whole riff bit...but whatever. i don't concern myself much with labels, ever. i think they are a great band, with a great sound. works for me.
Just reading through the groups should give you an idea what they sound like.
Basically you're right, labeling is hard and not a good thing to do, but it's just human nature to have definitions and terms and putting things in categories.
Well, do you need a lot of what you've got to survive?
Just reading through the groups should give you an idea what they sound like.
Basically you're right, labeling is hard and not a good thing to do, but it's just human nature to have definitions and terms and putting things in categories.
i know maybe 5? bands on that list ...and not all that well, b/c didn't love the small sampling i have heard. so given that, i just don't see the incubus connection given how much i love their music.
sure, i hear ya. all things get labelled and put neatly into their little boxes, in all media. in the visual arts it is the same. however, they don't always quite fit into those neat little categories....so i usually prefer broad terms at best.
anyhoo...call them what you like, and i'll simply call em a great band.
jose definitely one of THE best drummers out there.
one of my most incubus tunes.....and definitely NOT numetal in sound
Aqueous Transmission
I'm floating down a river
Oars freed from their holes long ago
Lying face up on the floor of my vessel
I marvel at the stars
And feel my heart overflow
Further down the river
Two weeks without my lover
I'm in this boat alone
Floating down a river named emotion
Will I make it back to shore
Or drift into the unknown
Further down the river
I'm building an antenna
Transmissions will be sent when I am through
Maybe we'll meet again further down the river
And share what we both discovered...
Then revel in the view
i know maybe 5? bands on that list ...and not all that well, b/c didn't love the small sampling i have heard. so given that, i just don't see the incubus connection given how much i love their music.
sure, i hear ya. all things get labelled and put neatly into their little boxes, in all media. in the visual arts it is the same. however, they don't always quite fit into those neat little categories....so i usually prefer broad terms at best.
anyhoo...call them what you like, and i'll simply call em a great band.
jose definitely one of THE best drummers out there.
one of my most incubus tunes.....and definitely NOT numetal in sound
Aqueous Transmission
I'm floating down a river
Oars freed from their holes long ago
Lying face up on the floor of my vessel
I marvel at the stars
And feel my heart overflow
Further down the river
Two weeks without my lover
I'm in this boat alone
Floating down a river named emotion
Will I make it back to shore
Or drift into the unknown
Further down the river
I'm building an antenna
Transmissions will be sent when I am through
Maybe we'll meet again further down the river
And share what we both discovered...
Then revel in the view
Further down the river
beautiful.
I guess we dont quite agree on Incubus then, we dont disagree either, it's just the level of greatness that we dont agree about. Well, so be it. And now go buy some Screaming Trees
Well, do you need a lot of what you've got to survive?
OK to settle this I searched for Nu Metal-sounding songs on Make Yourself. Let me note that I didnt say I wouldnt like Incubus or that they WERE Nu Metal. I said they have some good stuff but that they are TOO Nu Metal to be one of my faves. Other than that it was fun to discuss this Nu Metal thing in this thread since no one flamed me for it even though I was the only one with the Nu Metal view.
So here it goes.
Privilege - wall-of-sound-riff right at the beginning (those kind of riffing I associate with Nu Metal and not with Inie Rock), Boyd wailing over the big riff in the chorus
Nowhere Fast - Big riffing at the beginning again, and wailing over a wall-of-sound in the chorus
Consequence - Boyd's rap-like delivery in the verses ( I know that one's a bit questionable), but big wailing in the chorus again
Warmth - the way the DJ carries the song
When It Comes - rap-vocals, wailing, big riffing
Pardon Me - Riffing, rap, chorus long melodies
Out From Under - Riff at the beginning, rapstyle, chorus
I'll not bother you with Nu Metal now anymore, otherwise we'll just have to agree to disagree. On a sidenote, this is a pretty good album.
Just a question regarding your Nu-metal opinion. Do you consider Soundgarden's Badmotorfinger Nu-metal since alot of the songs on there are sort of wall-of-sound riffs with Cornell wailing over the top of them?
Just a question regarding your Nu-metal opinion. Do you consider Soundgarden's Badmotorfinger Nu-metal since alot of the songs on there are sort of wall-of-sound riffs with Cornell wailing over the top of them?
That's a trick question isnt it?
I've listened to BMF only a handful of times but I think the riffs sound different than Incubus' riffs.
Well, do you need a lot of what you've got to survive?
"Information is not knowledge.
Knowledge is not wisdom.
Wisdom is not truth.
Truth is not beauty.
Beauty is not love.
Love is not music.
Music is the best."
~ FZ ~
wow the podcast has the black hole sun cover they did..
no tours planned for this year tho..
:(
guess i'll have to wait a bit longer to finally go and see them live. eh just as well i guess. with peter gabriel, chili peppers...and of course pj tour!....plenty of shows to eat up all my time and $$$.
wow. they're playing red rocks. always wanted to see a band there, especially them after the dvd they released years ago.
Such a great venue. Saw Petty there on his last tour.
Grabbed Incubus tickets for here in KC!
Incubus has never been to winnpeg. not even once. after Crow Left of the Murder was released, I had that in my discman nonstop; I was waiting and waiting for them to come here.
still waiting.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
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So here it goes.
Privilege - wall-of-sound-riff right at the beginning (those kind of riffing I associate with Nu Metal and not with Inie Rock), Boyd wailing over the big riff in the chorus
Nowhere Fast - Big riffing at the beginning again, and wailing over a wall-of-sound in the chorus
Consequence - Boyd's rap-like delivery in the verses ( I know that one's a bit questionable), but big wailing in the chorus again
Warmth - the way the DJ carries the song
When It Comes - rap-vocals, wailing, big riffing
Pardon Me - Riffing, rap, chorus long melodies
Out From Under - Riff at the beginning, rapstyle, chorus
I'll not bother you with Nu Metal now anymore, otherwise we'll just have to agree to disagree. On a sidenote, this is a pretty good album.
And I think lumping incubus in with Nu-metal is tenuous at best. II'd just call them a meat and potatoes rock band.
Nickelback is not for sure, they're even considered a new wave of grunge.
And again, I didnt say they WERE Nu Metal (if thats what lumping in means )
it's ok, we forgive you. haha. i STILL don't know what nu metal is, or is meant to sound like...and don't quite get the whole riff bit...but whatever. i don't concern myself much with labels, ever. i think they are a great band, with a great sound. works for me.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
Here's some info on it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nu_metal and here's a list of Nu Metal groups http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nu_metal_musical_groups
Just reading through the groups should give you an idea what they sound like.
Basically you're right, labeling is hard and not a good thing to do, but it's just human nature to have definitions and terms and putting things in categories.
i know maybe 5? bands on that list ...and not all that well, b/c didn't love the small sampling i have heard. so given that, i just don't see the incubus connection given how much i love their music.
sure, i hear ya. all things get labelled and put neatly into their little boxes, in all media. in the visual arts it is the same. however, they don't always quite fit into those neat little categories....so i usually prefer broad terms at best.
anyhoo...call them what you like, and i'll simply call em a great band.
jose definitely one of THE best drummers out there.
one of my most incubus tunes.....and definitely NOT numetal in sound
Aqueous Transmission
I'm floating down a river
Oars freed from their holes long ago
Lying face up on the floor of my vessel
I marvel at the stars
And feel my heart overflow
Further down the river
Two weeks without my lover
I'm in this boat alone
Floating down a river named emotion
Will I make it back to shore
Or drift into the unknown
Further down the river
I'm building an antenna
Transmissions will be sent when I am through
Maybe we'll meet again further down the river
And share what we both discovered...
Then revel in the view
Further down the river
beautiful.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
I guess we dont quite agree on Incubus then, we dont disagree either, it's just the level of greatness that we dont agree about. Well, so be it. And now go buy some Screaming Trees
Just a question regarding your Nu-metal opinion. Do you consider Soundgarden's Badmotorfinger Nu-metal since alot of the songs on there are sort of wall-of-sound riffs with Cornell wailing over the top of them?
That's a trick question isnt it?
I've listened to BMF only a handful of times but I think the riffs sound different than Incubus' riffs.
Go here: http://www.myspace.com/incubus
Knowledge is not wisdom.
Wisdom is not truth.
Truth is not beauty.
Beauty is not love.
Love is not music.
Music is the best."
~ FZ ~
no tours planned for this year tho..
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London 20/04/2006
:(
guess i'll have to wait a bit longer to finally go and see them live. eh just as well i guess. with peter gabriel, chili peppers...and of course pj tour!....plenty of shows to eat up all my time and $$$.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
-EV 8/14/93
-EV 8/14/93
Grabbed Incubus tickets for here in KC!
www.cluthelee.com
www.cluthe.com
still waiting.
-EV 8/14/93