ban double albums

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  • brain of c
    brain of c Posts: 5,213
    what about the wall? toss it out? goodbye yellow brick road? frampton comes alive? something/anything?
    d'oh!!!!!!

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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    You're fucking Lee Majors? :D


    darn tootin i am :D
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    brain of c wrote:
    what about the wall? toss it out? goodbye yellow brick road? frampton comes alive? something/anything?

    frampton is a live album. exemtped. not sure about the wall. i think pink floyd had multiple songwriters. plus i might make an exception for compelling artistic vision. the wall and quadrophnia were 1) designed for vinyl, so a double album doesn't strain material as much as a double cd and 2) had a specific concept/story arc that helps weaker tracks seem more palatable.

    compare that to recent albums from RHCP and foo fighters, or Notorious BIG. they attempted to fill 2 cd's for no apparent reason and the result was a lot of weak material with no apparent vision to unify it.

    so maybe we can adopt another exception here. one that grants greater deference to vinyl over cd becos of the comparative demands on material to supoprt such a project, and one that gives merit for a strong artistic statement or concept that spills over 2 discs.
  • pjoasisrule
    pjoasisrule Posts: 3,412
    fowls wrote:
    The White Album was more of a rarities album really. Sure it had lots of filler, but they were fun! I'd count B sides and rarities as one of the exceptions.

    Double albums are all rubbish (exc. exceptions). It's a sign of poor editing skills. About the only 'double album' I like is I'm Wide Awake It's Morning/Digital Ash in a Digital Urn by Bright Eyes, but that doesn't really count since they are separate albums released at the same time.

    To call The White Album the best Beatles album and one of the best of all time is just outrageous though.
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  • carolinabeerguy
    carolinabeerguy Kernersville, NC Posts: 2,516
    I love Mellon Collie but there is some filler which could have been trimmed. Same can be said for The Wall.
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  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    97% of The Wall was written by Roger Waters.

    wasn't Umaguma a double record?

    i think NIN's The Fragile blows away Mellon Collie. there is some filler on The Fragile though.

    wasn't there a Clash record after London Calling that was something like 4-5 LPs long?
  • theroachman
    theroachman Posts: 362
    Mushmouthmatt wrote:
    97% of The Wall was written by Roger Waters.

    wasn't Umaguma a double record?

    i think NIN's The Fragile blows away Mellon Collie. there is some filler on The Fragile though.

    wasn't there a Clash record after London Calling that was something like 4-5 LPs long?


    It is a collection of Bs and singles and the likes. So it is a compolation rather then 100% origianal if i recall correctly.



    As for the Wall I do not think the story would make much since if you cut parts out to shorten it.

    Mellon Collie and Fragial are fantastic but both do have a bit of filler.
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  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    theroachman wrote:
    It is a collection of Bs and singles and the likes. So it is a compolation rather then 100% origianal if i recall correctly.



    As for the Wall I do not think the story would make much since if you cut parts out to shorten it.

    Mellon Collie and Fragial are fantastic but both do have a bit of filler.
    i agree on The Wall.
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    The Wall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    you simply can't compress an ego that size into a single album ... the Wall has sold many millions of copies.. so shut up ;)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Pauk
    Pauk Posts: 1,084
    pjoasisrule wrote:
    To call The White Album the best Beatles album and one of the best of all time is just outrageous though.
    Indeed, but a lot of music fans are blinded.
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  • theroachman
    theroachman Posts: 362
    Mushmouthmatt wrote:
    i agree on The Wall.


    I had just listen to Broken and unconsciously put that title in there. I fixed the mistake ;)
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  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    theroachman wrote:
    I had just listen to Broken and unconsciously put that title in there. I fixed the mistake ;)
    i caught that!! no problem.
  • rhinomagic
    rhinomagic Charlottesville, VA Posts: 2,555
    Wilco's Being There is an example of double-cd that turned out to be worth it.

    I can't think of many more.

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  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    soulsinging wrote:
    hip hop is especially bad for this. it seems every hip hop artist feels the needs to release a double album once they hit big and it is almost always a flop.
    There's 95% of the problem right there.
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  • wcsmith
    wcsmith Posts: 165
    I'll second Goodbye Yellow Brick Road...great double album

    and Eagles Live was the 1st cd I ever owned...I've got that one memorized...
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  • gleemonex
    gleemonex Posts: 848
    It's not a very popular album, but Eels' Blinking Lights and Other Relevations was a very good double album to my ears. I also hold Mellon Collie, The Wall and The White Album in high regards. I totally understand the point you're trying to make though, Stadium Arcadium and In Your Honor were awful double albums and probably would've been average single albums.
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  • Evacuation Rules
    Evacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    wcsmith wrote:
    I'll second Goodbye Yellow Brick Road...great double album

    Absolutley. Elton's masterpiece. Not a bad track on it.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    rhinomagic wrote:
    Wilco's Being There is an example of double-cd that turned out to be worth it.

    I can't think of many more.

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    being there, even with 2 versions of outta site outta mind, is short enough to fit on one disc.
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    rhinomagic wrote:
    Wilco's Being There is an example of double-cd that turned out to be worth it.

    I can't think of many more.

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    Led Zeppelin had a little double album titled "Physical Graffiti"....it were'nt too bad. ;):D
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  • ii44
    ii44 Posts: 430
    soulsinging wrote:
    let's face it, they almost always suck and are half full of filler. plus, they put them in those double-wide cases that are annoyingly bulky and take up valuable space on my shelf. it's always an indulgence in ego and would always have sounded better as a single album with a little discpline. hip hop is especially bad for this. it seems every hip hop artist feels the needs to release a double album once they hit big and it is almost always a flop.

    the only exceptions:

    1. compilations:
    whether it's a greatest hits or assembly of b-sides, if you're rounding up material from an artist's entire career, odds are good you can find enough decent material for 2 discs.

    2. multiple songwriters:
    this one is a maybe. but exceptinos can be made in the event you have multiple creative forces contributing material, as they might be able to compile enough good material to warrant the extra disc. examples... wu tang forever and the white album. granted, both had filler. but both also had a lot of contributing artists and enough good material to fill more than one disc.

    Quadrophenia says 'fuck you.'

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