ban double albums
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let's face it, they almost always suck and are half full of filler. plus, they put them in those double-wide cases that are annoyingly bulky and take up valuable space on my shelf. it's always an indulgence in ego and would always have sounded better as a single album with a little discpline. hip hop is especially bad for this. it seems every hip hop artist feels the needs to release a double album once they hit big and it is almost always a flop.
the only exceptions:
1. compilations:
whether it's a greatest hits or assembly of b-sides, if you're rounding up material from an artist's entire career, odds are good you can find enough decent material for 2 discs.
2. multiple songwriters:
this one is a maybe. but exceptinos can be made in the event you have multiple creative forces contributing material, as they might be able to compile enough good material to warrant the extra disc. examples... wu tang forever and the white album. granted, both had filler. but both also had a lot of contributing artists and enough good material to fill more than one disc.
the only exceptions:
1. compilations:
whether it's a greatest hits or assembly of b-sides, if you're rounding up material from an artist's entire career, odds are good you can find enough decent material for 2 discs.
2. multiple songwriters:
this one is a maybe. but exceptinos can be made in the event you have multiple creative forces contributing material, as they might be able to compile enough good material to warrant the extra disc. examples... wu tang forever and the white album. granted, both had filler. but both also had a lot of contributing artists and enough good material to fill more than one disc.
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shit, right. meant to include that one. if you're releasing a live concert that spans 2-discs, that's ok too.
i thought it was more like 90 minutes for vinyl and 2 hours and 45 minutes for cd? a cd is 80 minutes, 2 would be 160, or 2 hours 40 minutes. either way, a double record is a lot less demanding and doable. double cd's are almost always excessive.
shit i'm talking out my ass about how long they are....i was just agreeing with you and pledging my allegiance to vinyl...:)
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He would defend that position, though. He knows, if we were cleaning up that album, his songs would be the first to go.
havent we been over this recently
but you and i know both know that its the White Album... it is what it it is.. life would be different if it were scraped down to an 'album'... like time travellers standing on a ant... its life altering
i figured. not sure why the exact times were so important to me
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the white album was exempted by the fact of its having multiple songwriters to support its length. plus it was released on vinyl, so instead of being packed to the max with shit, it's just a few songs over fitting on one cd. as opposed to bands that try to put 60 minutes on each cd, each disc of the white album is about 45 minutes.
pearl jam would be exempted under the same exception. they have 5 songwriters, so im sure they could produce enough deent material for a double.
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Double albums are all rubbish (exc. exceptions). It's a sign of poor editing skills. About the only 'double album' I like is I'm Wide Awake It's Morning/Digital Ash in a Digital Urn by Bright Eyes, but that doesn't really count since they are separate albums released at the same time.
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frampton is a live album. exemtped. not sure about the wall. i think pink floyd had multiple songwriters. plus i might make an exception for compelling artistic vision. the wall and quadrophnia were 1) designed for vinyl, so a double album doesn't strain material as much as a double cd and 2) had a specific concept/story arc that helps weaker tracks seem more palatable.
compare that to recent albums from RHCP and foo fighters, or Notorious BIG. they attempted to fill 2 cd's for no apparent reason and the result was a lot of weak material with no apparent vision to unify it.
so maybe we can adopt another exception here. one that grants greater deference to vinyl over cd becos of the comparative demands on material to supoprt such a project, and one that gives merit for a strong artistic statement or concept that spills over 2 discs.
To call The White Album the best Beatles album and one of the best of all time is just outrageous though.
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wasn't Umaguma a double record?
i think NIN's The Fragile blows away Mellon Collie. there is some filler on The Fragile though.
wasn't there a Clash record after London Calling that was something like 4-5 LPs long?
It is a collection of Bs and singles and the likes. So it is a compolation rather then 100% origianal if i recall correctly.
As for the Wall I do not think the story would make much since if you cut parts out to shorten it.
Mellon Collie and Fragial are fantastic but both do have a bit of filler.
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you simply can't compress an ego that size into a single album ... the Wall has sold many millions of copies.. so shut up
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