Kanye West

muppet
muppet Posts: 980
edited July 2008 in Other Music
So I realise he's not a popular person around here, especially what with that Pearl Jam/Bonnaroo incident. I admit that the guy is a dickhead, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying his music.

He isn't the best out there like some people claim, but songs like Jesus Walks and Through The Wire are mindblowing. Anyone else a fan? His three albums are solid, IMO.
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  • LONGRD
    LONGRD Posts: 6,036
    Late Registration is a classic album period! Top 10 releases of the decade.
    I still listen to that album occasionally.

    The College Dropout is pretty good too but kinda taken a backseat lately for me. Graduation is was disappointment for me, I didn't like it.
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  • DeetroitBaasketball
    DeetroitBaasketball Posts: 379
    muppet wrote:
    So I realise he's not a popular person around here, especially what with that Pearl Jam/Bonnaroo incident. I admit that the guy is a dickhead, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying his music.

    He isn't the best out there like some people claim, but songs like Jesus Walks and Through The Wire are mindblowing. Anyone else a fan? His three albums are solid, IMO.

    What was the incident?
  • clark_kent
    clark_kent Posts: 166
    DeetroitBaasketball wrote:
    What was the incident?

    pearl jam played late. kanye was supposed to go on after them. due to pj playing late and the complexity of setting up kanye's stage, he didnt go on until after 4am at bonnaroo and people were pissed and bood him. later he apologized to fans who didnt get the set they wanted and blasted bonnaroo's owners and pearl jam for screwing him.
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  • DeetroitBaasketball
    DeetroitBaasketball Posts: 379
    clark_kent wrote:
    pearl jam played late. kanye was supposed to go on after them. due to pj playing late and the complexity of setting up kanye's stage, he didnt go on until after 4am at bonnaroo and people were pissed and bood him. later he apologized to fans who didnt get the set they wanted and blasted bonnaroo's owners and pearl jam for screwing him.

    Kanye is a conceted tool, but that would probably bother me too. At least if I wasn't a huge PJ fan.
  • 1STmammal2wearPants
    1STmammal2wearPants Worcester, MA Posts: 2,984
    I couldn't support anyone's music that I don't respect as an individual.
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  • 1STmammal2wearPants
    1STmammal2wearPants Worcester, MA Posts: 2,984
    clark_kent wrote:
    pearl jam played late. kanye was supposed to go on after them. due to pj playing late and the complexity of setting up kanye's stage, he didnt go on until after 4am at bonnaroo and people were pissed and bood him. later he apologized to fans who didnt get the set they wanted and blasted bonnaroo's owners and pearl jam for screwing him.

    You paint a very polite picture of the whole scenario. I was at Bonnaroo. Trust me, it wasn't Kanye being a martyr here.
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  • jammerfall
    jammerfall Posts: 908
    1STmammal2wearPants wrote:
    You paint a very polite picture of the whole scenario. I was at Bonnaroo. Trust me, it wasn't Kanye being a martyr here.

    Elaborate, please?
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  • muppet
    muppet Posts: 980
    I couldn't support anyone's music that I don't respect as an individual.

    Guess we differ on that. Van Morrison is an arsehole but he's made some of the most beautiful pieces of music of all time. I think John Lennon was a pretentious cunt but I still love his music :p
  • 1STmammal2wearPants
    1STmammal2wearPants Worcester, MA Posts: 2,984
    jammerfall wrote:
    Elaborate, please?

    Gee I dunno, he threw Pearl Jam under the bus, threw the fans under the bus for booing him, threw the stage crew under the bus calling them incompetent, all this after he whined and bitched about his set time and got moved to the biggest stage at a later time. Then when he pranced his ass out on the stage, he offered no sort of apology and played for just an hour. Not to mention, the next day, several artists, including Robert Randolph's Revival, called him out......I think it speaks a lot about a person that their ego must be that big that fellow colleagues in the music world say things about you, at the very festival that you are still at.
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  • 1STmammal2wearPants
    1STmammal2wearPants Worcester, MA Posts: 2,984
    muppet wrote:
    Guess we differ on that. Van Morrison is an arsehole but he's made some of the most beautiful pieces of music of all time. I think John Lennon was a pretentious cunt but I still love his music :p

    By support, I mean I wouldn't pay a dime for a Kanye CD. I guess I should have been more clear :) If a song has a catchy beat and the person is a douche, won't stop me from liking it I guess. I just wouldn't ever support them monetarily. That's just how I feel.
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  • Django
    Django Posts: 152
    I think he's very overrated. Mostly by himself.
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  • IAmMyself
    IAmMyself Posts: 671
    I was at Bonnaroo, and there has been tons written on this subject, just do a google search.
    Yeah Kanye sucks, and he really fucked up, and he whines A LOT, I mean shit Chris Rock was talking about how bad Kanye was before the Metallica show.
    Tons of people don't get up in the morning at BONNAROO and find white T-Shirts to write FUCK KANYE on them unless he did a little bit more than show up late. He was rude, he didn't care, and he always blames everyone else for everything and it gets old.
    I feel for George and the guys in the back who had to deal with his crew and all their shit!
    Kanye was scheduled to play on a different stage during the pj show, but because he wanted a glow in the dark show(other people say he just didn't want to be on stage during any other act) well then they moved his show to after pj on the same stage. That was probably really stupid on the bonnaroo staff's part not expecting the headliner to blow it out and play longer than they were supposed to which is what happened.
    So then you have Phil Lesh playing on another stage until 4:15 am, and crazy enough Kanye comes on just before that. I personally believe Kanye was being an asshole and refusing to play until he was the only one. The sun was up before he was done playing so it really screwed his glow in the dark show.


    Back to the original point of the thread, yeah I like his music, that is what makes this suck so bad. I just wish he would pull his head out of his ass! I loved what he did during the live Katrina thing on tv but lately he is out of control!
    I personally believe this with all my heart, Kanye could give a shit if another white person ever bought his albums again!
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  • IAmMyself
    IAmMyself Posts: 671
    muppet wrote:
    Guess we differ on that. Van Morrison is an arsehole but he's made some of the most beautiful pieces of music of all time. I think John Lennon was a pretentious cunt but I still love his music :p


    If Lennon is a pretentious cunt(that statement needs to be backed up with something), then Kanye is satan himself.
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  • John Briggs 2008
    John Briggs 2008 Posts: 1,024
    muppet wrote:
    So I realise he's not a popular person around here, especially what with that Pearl Jam/Bonnaroo incident. I admit that the guy is a dickhead, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying his music.

    He isn't the best out there like some people claim, but songs like Jesus Walks and Through The Wire are mindblowing. Anyone else a fan? His three albums are solid, IMO.

    I like his music but he is a pretentious, racist prick in my view. Hence why he will never get my financial support for any album.
  • LONGRD
    LONGRD Posts: 6,036
    John Briggs 2008 wrote:
    I like his music but he is a pretentious, racist prick in my view. Hence why he will never get my financial support for any album.
    Racist? any evidence other than he's a proud black person...I've never heard him say anything bad about a white person or people based on their race.
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  • LONGRD
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    1STmammal2wearPants wrote:
    By support, I mean I wouldn't pay a dime for a Kanye CD. I guess I should have been more clear :) If a song has a catchy beat and the person is a douche, won't stop me from liking it I guess. I just wouldn't ever support them monetarily. That's just how I feel.
    He has enough support, don't really need your hard earn money.
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  • cincybearcat
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    Actually, I think Kanye is one of those rare people where you should let his personality dictate whether you like his music...he is that big a prick.
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  • PJ & Bompton
    PJ & Bompton Posts: 92
    John Briggs 2008 wrote:
    I like his music but he is a pretentious, racist prick in my view. Hence why he will never get my financial support for any album.

    First off Kanye has NEVER said anything bad about white people he routinely talks about his love of bands such as Kaiser Chiefs, The Killers, John Mayer etc...

    Second, i'm sure Kanye could give a fuck less if you buy his album and probably wouldn't want you to with your attitude
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    I love Pearl Jam, favourite band, and would LOVE to have seen the 'Roo set. Having said that, at the festival environment, its not cool to play past your set time.
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  • writersu
    writersu Posts: 1,867
    muppet wrote:
    So I realise he's not a popular person around here, especially what with that Pearl Jam/Bonnaroo incident. I admit that the guy is a dickhead, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying his music.

    He isn't the best out there like some people claim, but songs like Jesus Walks and Through The Wire are mindblowing. Anyone else a fan? His three albums are solid, IMO.


    Yes, I am. I also like "Diamonds are Forever". My son is a HUGE rap fan. He listens to rap all the time. Kanye is cool and I Love Jesus Walks.
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