10 Most Overated Rock bands / Performers

lucylespian · February 2007

eclectic wrote:

Firstly The White Stripes headlined Reading Festival a couple of years back(ahead of Morrissey)so I don't know about the states but here in the UK they are bummed to the extreme .If Jack White farted taking to the stage it would be described by the NME as the definitive QUALITY ROCK FART ,and possibly described as 'MOMENT OF THE FESTIVAL'!Also they were shit live and he was a total indulgent dick onstage rambling off for ages at a time on positively mediocre guitar solos hitting bum notes all over the place.In addition their drummer has the skill level of a half decent 12 year old IMO.
Metallica are a good band but not THAT good ,and their singer is fucking rubbish ,he is so affected stylewise that I can't take him seriously.(sorry if stylewise is not a proper word).

Does having a style that you don't like detract from the quality of the music or the musicianship, or is style over substance your thing ??
I have to disagreee that they are not that good. I'm not sure if you have tried playing Master of Puppets, but just playing it is hard enough, without singing at the same time. James does not pretend to be a great techical singer, but he sure gets the job done anyway.
I'm still interested to see who you think is better and why. I suspect that you have not really listened closely to a thorough sampling of Metallica's albums, or that your listening skills are not that great.
James is also one of the top three riffmeisters of all time, Stone Gossard and Keith Richards being the other 2 IMHO.

eclectic · February 2007

lucylespian wrote:

Does having a style that you don't like detract from the quality of the music or the musicianship, or is style over substance your thing ??
I have to disagreee that they are not that good. I'm not sure if you have tried playing Master of Puppets, but just playing it is hard enough, without singing at the same time. James does not pretend to be a great techical singer, but he sure gets the job done anyway.
I'm still interested to see who you think is better and why. I suspect that you have not really listened closely to a thorough sampling of Metallica's albums, or that your listening skills are not that great.
James is also one of the top three riffmeisters of all time, Stone Gossard and Keith Richards being the other 2 IMHO.

Look up contradiction in the dictionary before you question my listening skills if you don't mind.You are suggesting I may put style over substance whereas I am probably suggesting exactly the opposite if anything.Your reference to Master of puppets suggests that you are the style over substance merchant.I mean what does how difficult a song is to play have to do with whether its a good song or not.Nothing actually.Listen to Hey Jude by The Beatles,or indeed Light Years or Black by PJ which IMO are all technically far inferior to most if not all of Metallicas catalogue but are all far superior 'songs'.

lucylespian · February 2007

eclectic wrote:

Look up contradiction in the dictionary before you question my listening skills if you don't mind.You are suggesting I may put style over substance whereas I am probably suggesting exactly the opposite if anything.Your reference to Master of puppets suggests that you are the style over substance merchant.I mean what does how difficult a song is to play have to do with whether its a good song or not.Nothing actually.Listen to Hey Jude by The Beatles,or indeed Light Years or Black by PJ which IMO are all technically far inferior to most if not all of Metallicas catalogue but are all far superior 'songs'.

I think how difficult the music is, is one way to measure how good a band is, yes. People are surely quick to use a lack of musical excellence as a yardstick for failure. Personally, I just like Metallica, just as I like PJ, and TBH I think they are more similar than different.
If you like the Beatles, then we are at opposite ends of the galaxy as far as musical taste is concerned. There is more likely to be an end to the war in Iraq today than there is to be agreement bewtwen us here, so maybe we agree to disagree.

eclectic · February 2007

lucylespian wrote:

I think how difficult the music is, is one way to measure how good a band is, yes. People are surely quick to use a lack of musical excellence as a yardstick for failure. Personally, I just like Metallica, just as I like PJ, and TBH I think they are more similar than different.
If you like the Beatles, then we are at opposite ends of the galaxy as far as musical taste is concerned. There is more likely to be an end to the war in Iraq today than there is to be agreement bewtwen us here, so maybe we agree to disagree.

Fair enough,but IMO which is clearly diometrically opposed to yours,PJ have far more in common with The Beatles than they do Metallica.

Jeanie · February 2007

lucylespian wrote:

I think how difficult the music is, is one way to measure how good a band is, yes. People are surely quick to use a lack of musical excellence as a yardstick for failure........................................................
If you like the Beatles, then we are at opposite ends of the galaxy as far as musical taste is concerned............

lucylespian · February 2007

eclectic wrote:

Fair enough,but IMO which is clearly diometrically opposed to yours,PJ have far more in common with The Beatles than they do Metallica.

Nah, not even close to teh Beatles.
PJ and Metallica have these point in common.....

BOth primarily GUITAR BANDS, multi guitar approach

CHarismatic lead singers/lyricists with fucked up childhoods
Awesome riffmeisters, JAmes and Stone, great songs with great riffs
Wonderful lead guitarists, neither of whom can sing for shit, neither of which need to, cos their guitar says it all, both heavily influenced by Hendrix, even though their individual styles are not obviously similar
Personally, they both had to deal with grief within the band and loss of band members, Cliff for Metallica, Denmark for PJ, both produced amazing music as part of the grieving process
Both amazing live, bvoth kick serious ass, both are still around despite major evolutions as they age and avoid becoming dinosaurs

*edited some typo's

eclectic · February 2007

Don't you think that it is a tribute to Pearl Jam that they can attract such opposites as fans,as I can't think of many bands that could bring us together.Also incidentally it sounds like you are only a fan of their heavier stuff.I could list many a PJ track that has fuck all in common with Metallica(Thin Air,Present Tense,Light Years,Thumbin,Man of the Hour,Nothingman,Lowlight.............etc,etc).

Pearl Jam and toast · February 2007

This man is so unabashedly lacking in talent that his next album should be titled 'I Can't Believe I'm Still Getting Away with This Shit--Volume 6'.

hahha absolute truth.

lucylespian · February 2007

eclectic wrote:

Don't you think that it is a tribute to Pearl Jam that they can attract such opposites as fans,as I can't think of many bands that could bring us together.Also incidentally it sounds like you are only a fan of their heavier stuff.I could list many a PJ track that has fuck all in common with Metallica(Thin Air,Present Tense,Light Years,Thumbin,Man of the Hour,Nothingman,Lowlight.............etc,etc).

No, not sure that I gave that impression, but you just listed some of my favourite tracks.
I can honestly say that neither band has ever played a note that Idon't love.
Consider though, the similarities between Thumbin' and Tuesday's Gone, which they didn't write, but did record.
It is true that Metallica would usually be considered to on the whole "heavier" than PJ, but I don't really pay attention to that as much as I do to the rhythms and melodies, which they both have in abundance.
Maybe I'm sick, but "heavy" guitar tone is soothing and easy on my ear. I listen to Metallica as a bed-time lullaby.
But you are right about PJ being a band that attracts a big variety of people wiht broadly differing tastes.
MAybe that is why people seem to disagree so much, maybe PJ is all we have in common ??

eclectic · February 2007

lucylespian wrote:

No, not sure that I gave that impression, but you just listed some of my favourite tracks.
I can honestly say that neither band has ever played a note that Idon't love.
Consider though, the similarities between Thumbin' and Tuesday's Gone, which they didn't write, but did record.
It is true that Metallica would usually be considered to on the whole "heavier" than PJ, but I don't really pay attention to that as much as I do to the rhythms and melodies, which they both have in abundance.
Maybe I'm sick, but "heavy" guitar tone is soothing and easy on my ear. I listen to Metallica as a bed-time lullaby.
But you are right about PJ being a band that attracts a big variety of people wiht broadly differing tastes.
MAybe that is why people seem to disagree so much, maybe PJ is all we have in common ??

Yeah maybe that is the only thing,but fuck its a good thing nonetheless,don't you think?

lucylespian · February 2007

eclectic wrote:

Yeah maybe that is the only thing,but fuck its a good thing nonetheless,don't you think?

Yes, definitely a good thing. PJ have been a source of innumerable hours of listening pleasure for the 10 yrs since I first heard Yield, and a general inspiration to me.
Cheers dude, thanks for the chat.

BTW, back on the subject of Jack White, what you said about the fart was so true, I think that's what I meant when I said over-hyped but under-rated. No-one could possibly hope to live up to the hype around them at the time. Much like Chinese Democracy...................
You know, I wonder if Axel knew how prophetic that name was, or if he did it deliberately, then thought "I wonder how long I can get away with this shit for ?"....................and he is still laughing at us all !!!

soulsinging · February 2007

lucylespian wrote:

No, not sure that I gave that impression, but you just listed some of my favourite tracks.
I can honestly say that neither band has ever played a note that Idon't love.
Consider though, the similarities between Thumbin' and Tuesday's Gone, which they didn't write, but did record.
It is true that Metallica would usually be considered to on the whole "heavier" than PJ, but I don't really pay attention to that as much as I do to the rhythms and melodies, which they both have in abundance.
Maybe I'm sick, but "heavy" guitar tone is soothing and easy on my ear. I listen to Metallica as a bed-time lullaby.
But you are right about PJ being a band that attracts a big variety of people wiht broadly differing tastes.
MAybe that is why people seem to disagree so much, maybe PJ is all we have in common ??

heavy metal as soothing eh? yeah, you're sick

anyway, where has pearl jam ever recorded tuesday's gone?

lucylespian · February 2007

soulsinging wrote:

heavy metal as soothing eh? yeah, you're sick

anyway, where has pearl jam ever recorded tuesday's gone?

No, Metallica recorded Tuesday's Gone, which was written by Lynard Skynard, so I was saying Metallica have done some mellow stuff that was comparable to PJ mellow.

pjoasisrule · February 2007

pjoasisrule wrote:

Tool
Radiohead
The Rolling Stones
Rush
Dave Matthews Band
The Smiths
The Stone Roses
Creed
Santana
Linkin Park
The Strokes
Every single emo band that is popular and getting good reviews

Forgot to add Staind.......I hate their singers voice and the music bores me to tears, how can anybody discovered by Fred Durst be any good?

locked · February 2007

Cold play...

You have to be gay to like Cold play ...if you're a guy**

**(ref: movie: 40 year old virgin)

soulsinging · February 2007

lucylespian wrote:

No, Metallica recorded Tuesday's Gone, which was written by Lynard Skynard, so I was saying Metallica have done some mellow stuff that was comparable to PJ mellow.

oh, gotcha. thought id missed something huge for a second... that'd be sweet.

Jeanie · February 2007

soulsinging wrote:

oh, gotcha. thought id missed something huge for a second... that'd be sweet.

So have you ladies finished gossiping and hijacking the thread now?

soulsinging · February 2007

Jeanie wrote:

So have you ladies finished gossiping and hijacking the thread now?

hey, we were still talking about over-rated bands darlin

Jeanie · February 2007

soulsinging wrote:

hey, we were still talking about over-rated bands darlin

So was I!

So I guess it's just because I'm a girl then?

NickyNooch · February 2007

Okay so this will tick some people off, but before you write how bad my list is remember... it's easier to criticize someone elses list then write your own.

1. Sex Pistols (They didn't start punk rock, nor does it matter. A band comes out with 1 album and people make them legends. SLC Punk says it best "We did it louder, we did it faster and we did it with more love!" Way over glorified.)

2. Pink Floyd (Their songs are entirely too long and flat out boring.)

3. Phish (I don't smoke pot.)

4. Oasis (Seriously Beatles rip offs. Yeah I said it. There were songs of theirs that I was like... wow, the guts they have to completely rip off chord progressions from the beatles. Then the Gallagher brothers get mad in interviews when they get compared to the Beatles. haha.)

5. Rush (Tom Sawyer speaks for itself. Sorry but it doesn't get cheezier than the keyboards on that song.)

6. Tool (To me, they represent all hard rock/metal sludge that just doesn't do it for me. The songs drag out and go no where.)

7. Grateful Dead (Okay I haven't seen them live. I'm sure that skews my opinion, but they are considered one of the greatest rock bands of all time and I simply don't get it. All of their songs are mediocre and no stand outs. They may be talented musicians, but talent doesn't necessarily make great music.)

8. Blondie (I honestly question their "punk rock" label they have, which I know is sacrilege. People credit blondie for their "rap" song "rapture" for their diversity. Did anyone notice the song is laughably bad? It's like inventing a square wheel, sure you invented it, but it's still bad.)

9. The Clash (This will make people upset, but why stop at #8? haha. By the way it's easy to post rebuttles without posting your own lists

I see they wrote a lot of songs like Rock the Casbah, which to me changed them from punk rock to pop stars. It's like Johnny Rotten said, "If you want to stop being a pop star just stop being one." The Clash should've listened.

A lot of this pick has to do with lists like this...
http://rateyourmusic.com/lists/list_view?list_id=31788&show=50&start=50

that dared to put the clash above the Ramones, ugh.
)

10. STYX (The songs are cheezy. Like in a Journey way. However, I find Journey's songs so cheezy that they are fun. Also, Styx seems to get a lot more credit then Journey, hence I put them on the overrated list)

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