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pjtradeking · October 2008

Ignorant-Indian wrote:

there is no opinion at all i know for 100% certain this is a forgery...

I couldnt agree more, I was just trying to be nice!

Kilgore_Trout · October 2008

pjtradeking wrote:

I couldnt agree more, I was just trying to be nice!

you fuckin know-it-alls...

veddersman · October 2008

Hi all, I am the OP's brother who gave him this guitar.

After reading the replies it is now my gut feeling that this item is not genuine as I do not believe so many could get it wrong. I have plenty of experience in listening to the band but unfortunately none whatsoever in collecting signed memorabilia.

For that reason I done some lengthy searching prior to purchasing this item and although I realised that there is always a risk associated with this type of purchase I purchased it through what I believed to be a fairly reputable online store.

http://www.autographsamerica.com/?gclid=CMblgI-wgJUCFRlPEAodbzkoqwore

To say I am gutted for my brother is the ultimate understatement but the feeling of injustice is now far outweighing the feeling of denial.

I paid around $600 for this item which was originally $1200 and I now am seeking any advice available.

Does anyone know of this dealer?
Does anyone know how I can prove the item not to be genuine?
Does anyone know of any good dealers in these items to enable me to get him a replacement?

veddersman

Stinkfoot · October 2008

veddersman wrote:

Hi all, I am the OP's brother who gave him this guitar.

After reading the replies it is now my gut feeling that this item is not genuine as I do not believe so many could get it wrong. I have plenty of experience in listening to the band but unfortunately none whatsoever in collecting signed memorabilia.

For that reason I done some lengthy searching prior to purchasing this item and although I realised that there is always a risk associated with this type of purchase I purchased it through what I believed to be a fairly reputable online store.

http://www.autographsamerica.com/?gclid=CMblgI-wgJUCFRlPEAodbzkoqwore

To say I am gutted for my brother is the ultimate understatement but the feeling of injustice is now far outweighing the feeling of denial.

I paid around $600 for this item which was originally $1200 and I now am seeking any advice available.

Does anyone know of this dealer?
Does anyone know how I can prove the item not to be genuine?
Does anyone know of any good dealers in these items to enable me to get him a replacement?

veddersman

well, at least it says on the site that if you can prove it's a fake you get all your money back, including postage.

pdalowsky · October 2008

This sucks big time....people have to be so careful with signed goods.....

that website looks pretty poor too.....go for the refund if I was you, and consider the one on ebay with the PSI certificate - its alot more but you could throw them an offer....

Jimmy, guitarhero, indian, Scott what ya make of this?

http://i383.photobucket.com/albums/oo275/pdalowsky/Pearl20Jam20Guitar1.jpg

dangerboy · October 2008

pdalowsky wrote:

This sucks big time....people have to be so careful with signed goods.....

that website looks pretty poor too.....go for the refund if I was you, and consider the one on ebay with the PSI certificate - its alot more but you could throw them an offer....

Jimmy, guitarhero, indian, Scott what ya make of this?

http://i383.photobucket.com/albums/oo275/pdalowsky/Pearl20Jam20Guitar1.jpg

tough call, paul, but i am more inclined to believe this one is real. just certain characteristics of the four main sigs that appear to be in line with others i've seen. that ed signature looks like his scrawl from the mid 90's. the fifth auto is matt's, i'm guessing? looks as though it was signed in a hurry while walking through an airport or something, though. i'd hate to declare it real definitively, but like i said, i'm more inclined to believe this one is real compared to the blue one...

to the OP's brother. if you need to prove it's not real to get your money back, have it authenticated by psa/dna. it's not cheap, but you'll know for sure.

pdalowsky · October 2008

Thanks Jimmy, I think its real too....the guys been offering it me for a while....a little pricey though at $2000,

maybe one day...

100 Pacer · October 2008

pdalowsky wrote:

This sucks big time....people have to be so careful with signed goods.....

that website looks pretty poor too.....go for the refund if I was you, and consider the one on ebay with the PSI certificate - its alot more but you could throw them an offer....

Jimmy, guitarhero, indian, Scott what ya make of this?

http://i383.photobucket.com/albums/oo275/pdalowsky/Pearl20Jam20Guitar1.jpg

interesting item, as these signatures were likely obtained in the early 90's (if all were obtained at the same time, of course) as that's Dave Krusen's signature on the guitar. these signatures are legitimate, in my opinion.

pdalowsky · October 2008

thanks, they are coming from a very very legit souce on the face of it, so i would doubt it would be a fake, yet anything is possible these days so i thought I'd check with you guys

This store has John lennon signed stuff, some signed Bob Marley drums.....but my god they are super pricey for the plainly obvious reasons

dangerboy · October 2008

100 Pacer wrote:

interesting item, as these signatures were likely obtained in the early 90's (if all were obtained at the same time, of course) as that's Dave Krusen's signature on the guitar. these signatures are legitimate, in my opinion.

good call on that fifth signature! if that's the case, i'm even more convinced because that places ed's signature in the correct chronological context....

Guitarhero27 · October 2008

paul - looks pretty good to me, and it looks like a Dave Krusen signature to be honest

the ev sig looks like a 1992 signature that I have, looks exact although I couldn't vouche for the authenticity of it...bought the 1992 xmas single on ebay years and years ago for about $15 on ebay, and for whatever reason the signature was on the back of it

-seth

pdalowsky · October 2008

Thanks Seth,

are you still updating the Reeenk database too??

Guitarhero27 · October 2008

pdalowsky wrote:

Thanks Seth,

are you still updating the Reeenk database too??

that would be John Reynolds from TFT....I'll inquire about this later today - I'm not sure if people have been emailing him their scans/stories...but if you know people who have recently aquired a reeenk, have them send him an email!

-seth

pdalowsky · October 2008

yeah sure, is his email on the site over there? and is it still the same one?

I only know of two, the one I managed to get hold of, and Stuart from on here too also from the UK....

There was also the one that was talked about a lot on here and on pjcollectors, the one with the awesome little sony note explaining what the item was and being the mother love bone dudes new project.

Guitarhero27 · October 2008

pdalowsky wrote:

yeah sure, is his email on the site over there? and is it still the same one?

I only know of two, the one I managed to get hold of, and Stuart from on here too also from the UK....

There was also the one that was talked about a lot on here and on pjcollectors, the one with the awesome little sony note explaining what the item was and being the mother love bone dudes new project.

it should be the same, if not send a comment through the actual page that the reeenk article is on (all the way at the bottom - comments and feedback)

dangerboy · October 2008

i had dave krusen sign this http://www.pjcollectors.com/detail.asp?id=262 when he came though here with candlebox in 1998? happy pills. i interviewed them on their bus, which is where he signed it for me. first time i've pulled this
out in a long time...

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a365/dangergirl96/KRUSENSIG2.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a365/dangergirl96/KRUSENSIG.jpg

pdalowsky · October 2008

Hey Jimmy, You are one lucky guy,....another awesome piece

100 Pacer · October 2008

dangerboy wrote:

i had dave krusen sign this http://www.pjcollectors.com/detail.asp?id=262 when he came though here with candlebox in 1998? happy pills. i interviewed them on their bus, which is where he signed it for me. first time i've pulled this
out in a long time...

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a365/dangergirl96/KRUSENSIG2.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a365/dangergirl96/KRUSENSIG.jpg

what's amazing is that Dave Krusen's signature hasn't changed in the slightest in nearly 20 years! for those interested, run a search for a thread by LukinFan with "Kings Royal" as the subject topic and you will come across a couple of links Roger provided to scans of a Kings Royal CD that Dave personally signed to him recently,...

dangerboy · October 2008

thanks paul. hope this helps. and great call, 100pacer...

Guitarhero27 · October 2008

dangerboy wrote:

i had dave krusen sign this http://www.pjcollectors.com/detail.asp?id=262 when he came though here with candlebox in 1998? happy pills. i interviewed them on their bus, which is where he signed it for me. first time i've pulled this
out in a long time...

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a365/dangergirl96/KRUSENSIG2.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a365/dangergirl96/KRUSENSIG.jpg

that's really funny.

I did the same exact thing with DK, with the same single! And then I worked on the rest of the guys from there.

Got DK in 97/98 (on his picture), Jeff in 1999 with 3 Fish (on his picture), Stone in 2001 with Brad (on the cd), Eddie in 2006 after a PJ show (on the cd), Stone again in 2006 (on his picture this time)...and then finally, about 10-11 years after the first signature, outside of the beacon theater...I finally met mike and got him to sign both his picture and the cd! haha

-seth

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