Thank Pearl Jam for nu-metal

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  • lars
    lars Posts: 524
    pjoasisrule wrote:
    Korn has some good songs on their first couple albums, their music is nauseating now. By the way, they sound nothing like Pearl Jam. If Korn sounds like a heavy Pearl Jam then Metallica sound like a heavy Beatles.
    melodic wise I agree on your point there. Beatles and metallica have same melodic structures and buildup
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  • OutOfBreath
    OutOfBreath Posts: 1,802
    I would think that Rage Against The Machine, Faith No More and Red Hot Chili Peppers have a lot more to do with the influence on nu-metal than Pearl Jam. And it would depend on what you mean by nu-metal really. But generally rap/funk fusing with metal riffs is what nu-metal is about, no?

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  • rhinomagic
    rhinomagic Charlottesville, VA Posts: 2,555
    "Death to False Metal"

    -- Pearl Jam t-shirt

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  • lars
    lars Posts: 524
    rhinomagic wrote:
    "Death to False Metal"

    -- Pearl Jam t-shirt

    .
    Without Korn metal would have died out....they took over metallicas throne and evolved metal....and they sound like pearl jam, especially "go" of vs. just not so heavy
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  • gabers
    gabers Posts: 2,787
    lars wrote:
    Without Korn metal would have died out....they took over metallicas throne and evolved metal....and they sound like pearl jam, especially "go" of vs. just not so heavy

    Lars dude I think you're on your own on this one.
  • lars
    lars Posts: 524
    ...and I also think eddies vocal techniques have begun to resemble fred dursts. Take for instance the song comatose. Here it is fairly clear that he´s trying to expand his vocal cords and intonation.
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  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    lars wrote:
    ...and I also think eddies vocal techniques have begun to resemble fred dursts. Take for instance the song comatose. Here it is fairly clear that he´s trying to expand his vocal cords and intonation.

    Yeah, I have to admit, first time I heard Comatose, I thought it was a Limp Bizkit song.
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  • 12345AGNST1
    12345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    Yeah, I have to admit, first time I heard Comatose, I thought it was a Limp Bizkit song.

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  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    how come nobody's mentioned the Deftones in a "nu-metal" thread? they're probably the only succesful nu-metal band still around making great music.
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  • lars
    lars Posts: 524
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    how come nobody's mentioned the Deftones in a "nu-metal" thread? they're probably the only succesful nu-metal band still around making great music.
    .....not more than korn
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  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    lars wrote:
    .....not more than korn
    not true. deftones are still around as big as they were when they first came out. korn is hardly even mentioned in the radio now these days. not saying they're better than korn... just saying korn isn't as strong as they used to be. as for the deftones, they're just as strong.
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  • lars
    lars Posts: 524
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    not true. deftones are still around as big as they were when they first came out. korn is hardly even mentioned in the radio now these days. not saying they're better than korn... just saying korn isn't as strong as they used to be. as for the deftones, they're just as strong.
    Check out billboard.com and check out both bands newest cds and compare and stand corrected
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  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    lars wrote:
    Check out billboard.com and check out both bands newest cds and compare and stand corrected
    you must be from europe or something. korn's album debuted at no 1.... in europe though and stayed there for 3 weeks. deftones album debuted at no. 10 in the 200 billboard charts and stayed there for 18 weeks. that doesn't say much to me. the website is a little confusing.

    like i said, i don't know what it's like in europe... i've never been there. but here, or at least in texas... nobody cares about korn as much as they care about the deftones. and i haven't even heard them be mentioned about as much as deftones. i'm pretty sure korn's music has changed significantly... it changed since the Untouchables album.... which i particularly thought sucked dickshit. well, so did deftones self-titled album.... but deftones latest album, i think, succeeded much more this time than their last and even korn's latest. their shows still get packed and people still go crazy for them... probably even more than before.

    edit: and besides who even cares about the billboards these days.... even after we got downloading and shit. sean kingston is at no. 1 on the top 100 billboard charts with some cheesy title beautiful girls.... are we to say that they're better than korn, deftones or even pearl jam?
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  • lars
    lars Posts: 524
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    you must be from europe or something. korn's album debuted at no 1.... in europe though and stayed there for 3 weeks. deftones album debuted at no. 10 in the 200 billboard charts and stayed there for 18 weeks. that doesn't say much to me. the website is a little confusing.

    like i said, i don't know what it's like in europe... i've never been there. but here, or at least in texas... nobody cares about korn as much as they care about the deftones. and i haven't even heard them be mentioned about as much as deftones. i'm pretty sure korn's music has changed significantly... it changed since the Untouchables album.... which i particularly thought sucked dickshit. well, so did deftones self-titled album.... but deftones latest album, i think, succeeded much more this time than their last and even korn's latest. their shows still get packed and people still go crazy for them... probably even more than before.

    edit: and besides who even cares about the billboards these days.... even after we got downloading and shit. sean kingston is at no. 1 on the top 100 billboard charts with some cheesy title beautiful girls.... are we to say that they're better than korn, deftones or even pearl jam?
    True, but the numbers do give some sort of indication and as far as I can tell here in europe korn would sell more concert tickets than deftones. I have nothing against deftones, I just like korn better....even though some of their material has been questionable....their new cd on the other hand is a step in a correct direction.
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  • Carlos D
    Carlos D Posts: 638
    lars wrote:
    Korn, the founders of nu-metal, sound like Pearl Jam....just a bit heavier. Just listen to blind of the debut....totally eddieish

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  • 12345AGNST1
    12345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    no you fucks, thank pearl jam for nu-grunge.(if anything) where the hell do you get nu-mutel from??!!





    i take that back, the word "nu-grunge" makes me feel like i lowered my iq.
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  • Flagg
    Flagg Posts: 5,856
    Lost interest in Korn after Untouchables.

    They had some good songs though, especially on that 1st album. Blind is an awesome track.

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  • lars
    lars Posts: 524
    12345AGNST1 wrote:
    no you fucks, thank pearl jam for nu-grunge.(if anything) where the hell do you get nu-mutel from??!!





    i take that back, the word "nu-grunge" makes me feel like i lowered my iq.
    Silverchair were nu-grunge
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    lars wrote:
    Silverchair were nu-grunge

    I think Neo-grunge is a better term for it. Anything w/ NU should be reserved for bands like Korn and LB. I think Silverchair has proven to be anything but what they were when they were 14.
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