New Great American Rockbands?

Smarter_Than_U wrote:

aren't you pleasant

i totally agree with PilatesBetterman.

Smarter_Than_U wrote:

Uhuh ... and i am sure you are the only one who takes their music seriously around here. what are the chances that other people on a pearl jam message board are not passionate about the musics they listen to? If you have some big fucking secret band, then let's hear about.

Already poste KoL and SR, I find that it's hard to find anything REALLy good out there anymore, perhaps I was spoiled listening to Clapton since birth, I mean fuck 99% of what i hear pass as a solo or riff is absolute gargbage or stolen, and when i do find a band that's decent they go and release a 2nd album that sux balls. (case in point Sugar Ray- Lemonade and Brownies blew me away so i was stoked for Floored and wanted to cut my heart out with a spoon when i heard it)
Most people are too influenced by the media(including the Message Pit). They form uninformed opinions and b/c "so-and-so said" this music is good or bad or whatever. I have especially noticed this with Avacado. If the next PJ album is anything like it I will NEVER support this band with my $ again, my perogative my choice. Yet here you'd think that Pearl Jam had fucking relaesed their "White Album" not even fucking close.
Avacado is probably the weakest album they've released to date. Is it a folk album? Is it Punk? where's the cohesion? The songs are great but the album SUX.

PilatesBetterman wrote:

Already poste KoL and SR, I find that it's hard to find anything REALLy good out there anymore, perhaps I was spoiled listening to Clapton since birth, I mean fuck 99% of what i hear pass as a solo or riff is absolute gargbage or stolen, and when i do find a band that's decent they go and release a 2nd album that sux balls. (case in point Sugar Ray- Lemonade and Brownies blew me away so i was stoked for Floored and wanted to cut my heart out with a spoon when i heard it)
Most people are too influenced by the media(including the Message Pit). They form uninformed opinions and b/c "so-and-so said" this music is good or bad or whatever. I have especially noticed this with Avacado. If the next PJ album is anything like it I will NEVER support this band with my $ again, my perogative my choice. Yet here you'd think that Pearl Jam had fucking relaesed their "White Album" not even fucking close.
Avacado is probably the weakest album they've released to date. Is it a folk album? Is it Punk? where's the cohesion? The songs are great but the album SUX.

To each his own, I guess. I personally think you would be hard-pressed to find better recent bands than the ones I mention, but maybe I am just brainwashed by "the media." Afterall I have only listened to these bands' albums hundreds upon hundreds of times. For the record, I think the new PJ album is a masterpiece and the most cohesive album they have put out since Ten.

That's all I am going to say about any of this. I know from experience that these kinds of conversations never go anywhere.

Smarter_Than_U wrote:

To each his own, I guess. I personally think you would be hard-pressed to find better recent bands than the ones I mention, but maybe I am just brainwashed by "the media." Afterall I have only listened to these bands' albums hundreds upon hundreds of times. For the record, I think the new PJ album is a masterpiece and the most cohesive album they have put out since Ten.

That's all I am going to say about any of this. I know from experience that these kinds of conversations never go anywhere.

I concur that the songs are great, but where is the "theme" the common thing that brings the songs together as an album.
Ten: Anger, angst and confusion from childhood
VS: Anger and rage about society and what it demands
Vitalogy: Confusion and being "lost"
No Code: Finding and defining personal identity
Yield: Comfort and solace in who one really is
Binaural: Exploring and expanding the spriritual side of being a person
Riot Act: Exploring the Darkside of that same person
Pearl Jam: ???????

Debate and the exchange of ideas are what help people see different perspectives. As long as it doesn;t get personal I don't see why it should go no where

Smarter_Than_U wrote:

Pearl Jam: A nation at war with the world, at war with each other, at war with themselves. Notice the common theme of falling, sleeplessness, and ultimately trying to escape.

I will listen for it. and I do appreciate that you are willing to discuss rather than expecting me to draw you into some childish shit

Smarter_Than_U wrote:

discussing thematic stuff is usually somewhat productive, but when comes to issues of individual taste that, my friend, is a dead end street.

But if there are 2 open minded mature adults dicussing personal taste and both can find a way to communicate why they have those preferences then individual taste can be discussed just as productively.

drive-by truckers
my morning jacket
the black keys

i think the foo fighters are a really good american band as well. I like bands that put on good live shows and ive seen the foos on a normal tour and an acoustic one and they've blown me away both times.

also, definitely MMJ and white stripes.

my 2 cents (in no particular order and lots of parenthesis)

death cab for cutie (not new)
idlewild (not new, not american)
teenage fanclub (not new, not american)
dashboard confessional (sort of new)
my morning jacket (sort of new)
white stripes (why not)

Rose Hill Drive- Self Titled album out tomorrow.

They are awesome. Old School Classic rock three piece they got long hair and fucking play some awesome rock.

I'm listening ot a concert of theirs from dec 30th 2005 they play all of led zepplin 1 then they play a set of their own and it just is some filthy rock