Is South Park's view of 9/11 accurate?

musicismylife78

not sure if matt and trey view South Park as social critique, and educational, or merely a chance to make people laugh, but they do indeed have great social critiques on the show.

One of the more interesting was their take on "was 9/11 an inside job". They show Bush murdering a 9/11 Truther. Seeming to confirm it was an inside job. Then it is shown the guy never died, that they somehow faked his death and that 9/11 wasn't an inside job. It is suggested the government runs the conspiracy websites and that they do this to make themselves look more powerful than they really are, to scare people into doing what they say.

What's everyone's take on this theory? Is it valid at all? Could the government be behind the 9/11 is an inside job movement, and merely want to look all powerful?

LikeAnOcean

I believe it was a little of both.. The Al Queda definitely planned it and carried it out. It's highly likely the inside intelligence of our government knew about it and let it happen.

Thorns2010

LikeAnOcean wrote:

I believe it was a little of both.. The Al Queda definitely planned it and carried it out. It's highly likely the inside intelligence of our government knew about it and let it happen.

Kinda like Pearl Harbor

jlew24asu

LikeAnOcean wrote:

I believe it was a little of both.. The Al Queda definitely planned it and carried it out. It's highly likely the inside intelligence of our government knew about it and let it happen.

what do you mean let it happen? why would they do that?


I believe they knew about a plot, but were too stupid and incompetent to piece it together and stop it from happening.

ledvedderman

jlew24asu wrote:

LikeAnOcean wrote:

I believe it was a little of both.. The Al Queda definitely planned it and carried it out. It's highly likely the inside intelligence of our government knew about it and let it happen.

what do you mean let it happen? why would they do that?


I believe they knew about a plot, but were too stupid and competent to piece it together and stop it from happening.

Exactly. Agencies weren't sharing all the information needed to stop the attack. Did they do it on purpose to let the attacks happen? Probably not.

WaveCameCrashin

Dude it's freakin South Park... Jesus :roll: :roll:

TriumphantAngel

jlew24asu wrote:

LikeAnOcean wrote:

I believe it was a little of both.. The Al Queda definitely planned it and carried it out. It's highly likely the inside intelligence of our government knew about it and let it happen.

what do you mean let it happen? why would they do that?


I believe they knew about a plot, but were too stupid and competent to piece it together and stop it from happening.

i agree with you there jlew :shock:

ajedigecko

you people have lost your mind......................if you think the government "let it happen" intentionally.

jlew24asu

ajedigecko wrote:

you people have lost your mind......................if you think the government "let it happen" intentionally.

lol are you new here?

ajedigecko

jlew24asu wrote:

ajedigecko wrote:

you people have lost your mind......................if you think the government "let it happen" intentionally.

lol are you new here?

i can not believe what i read around here.........reminds me of the checkout counter at the grocery store.

ledvedderman

ajedigecko wrote:

jlew24asu wrote:

ajedigecko wrote:

you people have lost your mind......................if you think the government "let it happen" intentionally.

lol are you new here?

i can not believe what i read around here.........reminds me of the checkout counter at the grocery store.

Dude, you haven't seen how crazy this place can get on 9/11. I use to be a "truther", but as I did my own research I've come to the conclusion that the truthers stories have just as many holes (if not more) than what the 9/11 commission published. Chalk it up to a big fuck up of a lack of sharing info between agencies.

ajedigecko

miscommunication/power control/my agency is better.....call it what you will. but that is all that happened.

a big batch of stupid between agencies.

Cosmo

The Bush Administration was just too inept to be able to pull of such an well-orchestrated conspiracy. All you have to do is look at the way they handled the initial takeover/occupation of Baghdad... that provided enough proof their incompetance. Bush/Cheney only WISH they were adept to pull of the September 11, 2001 attacks as the conspiracy theorists believe.

jlew24asu

ajedigecko wrote:

jlew24asu wrote:

ajedigecko wrote:

you people have lost your mind......................if you think the government "let it happen" intentionally.

lol are you new here?

i can not believe what i read around here.........reminds me of the checkout counter at the grocery store.

its hard to say what my favorite theory from here was. maybe it was the bombs that were planted throughout 2 110 story buildings, without anyone knowing in WTC, and strategically detonated from a secret location at precisely the perfect time to cause uniform collapses.

and maybe it was the fact that it was a missile that hit the pentagon and the plane was "kidnapped" and is still fully intact at a secret location and the passengers held hostage or possibly executed.

FiveB247x

Poor choice of wording... what you should say is that there was a massive failure by government and the intellengence community to follow up and thwart any large, looming threats we were receiving which eventually came to fruition. No one "let anything happen" as if to say it was planned to allowed to occur by the government. When people go down that road, it's merely conspiracy theory. As yes, as someone else previously mentioned, it was the same exact scenario with Pearl Harbour.

tybird

Cosmo wrote:

The Bush Administration was just too inept to be able to pull of such an well-orchestrated conspiracy. All you have to do is look at the way they handled the initial takeover/occupation of Baghdad... that provided enough proof their incompetance. Bush/Cheney only WISH they were adept to pull of the September 11, 2001 attacks as the conspiracy theorists believe.

My argument all along......The Bush Admin could have never come up with such a simple, but brilliant plan...then carried it.....without everybody and their mother's mother knowing about it......so I must say +1 to Cosmo's comments

VINNY GOOMBA

Nobody will ever know for sure what really happened that day.

The following are equally unbelievable to me:

1) That the government carried out the attack (total inside job).

2) That 19 cave-dwelling extremists with plastic box cutters carried out the attack, and that our government was unable to stop them.

Just like La Cosa Nostra-- the military, CIA, and FBI all follow a pyramid structure of giving orders. No one is allowed to question those above them, and doing so has potentially dangerous reprucussions. If it was the will of the higher-ups in any of the intelligence agencies to not act in stopping the attacks, it could very well have happened that way. Weren't there plenty of people in both agencies with knowledge that Al Queda was up to something, and everytime they tried to bring it to the attentions of their superiors, they were pretty much stalled in doing so? What if everytime someone had vital information about a pending attack, that they were simply told to wait until more intel was gathered? What if they were told to wait repeatedly until it was too late? And then what? Who's going to squeal on their superiors in the CIA or FBI? There are umpteen levels of secret and security clearances within these agencies-- the left hand never knows what right hand is doing, let alone what the head is thinking.

If a rigorous pyramid structure of command is upheld, it doesn't matter how noble the efforts are of the people at the bottom who are doing all of the grunt work. If the top is corrupt, the whole thing is corrupt.

I hate to put any stock in a Hollywood movie, but what if Oliver Stone's "W." was fairly accurate in how George Bush ran his White House? He wasn't a bad guy, he just trusted EVERYTHING his advisers told him, so long as they stroked his ego a little bit when they guided his decision making. For all we know, 9/11 could have been "an inside job" without the president even knowing. You don't have to be a tin-foil hat-wearing conspiracy nut to believe that the CIA does in fact act entirely on its own at times, and is rarely subject to scrutiny or accountability.

One thing is for sure: Life for all of us had become "post-9/11" whether you like it or not. As a result, we are all less safe and less free. We've played right into the "terrorists" game-- they flicked the first domino, and we've let the media and the politicians scare us into letting the rest of them fall.

jlew24asu

VINNY GOOMBA wrote:

2) That 19 cave-dwelling extremists with plastic box cutters carried out the attack, and that our government was unable to stop them.

the 19 hijackers were not cave dwellers. take out "cave dwellers" and that sentence is not unbelievable at all

ledvedderman

My favorite theory was that they weren't even planes that crashed into the WTC, that they were, in fact,...wait for it...cartoon planes

VINNY GOOMBA

ledvedderman wrote:

My favorite theory was that they weren't even planes that crashed into the WTC, that they were, in fact,...wait for it...cartoon planes

Never heard that one... Were there aliens involved also?

VINNY GOOMBA

The uber-paranoid out there think that Alex Jones works for the government...

Or are they onto something ?