Nirvana had to change the cover of In Utero for wal mart. They changed "rape me" to "waif me" if
i'm not mistaken
Sell outs!
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I'll just say I'm glad Gore didn't become president. Otherwise his wife Tipper would have had clout to go further into censorship. She went against Frank Zappa in front of Congress to get those "warning" stickers (also known as Tipper Stickers) onto CDs. What was next...
Yeah, the Bush disaster -- two wars, countless Iraqis dead, economic collapse, the rich getting richer, torture, lies, sending science back to the 1950's -- was a nice alternative to some warning stickers on CD's. :roll:
Idiotic statement.
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I agree Fuck Walmart. I try not to shop there ever! They are helping to put the small business owners like myself out of work...tell artist what they can say,or god forbid we won't sell your record.
Keep america america, freedom of speech and the right to the american dream.
Doesn't reducing the ability to get the uncensored version of an album, just drive the kids to find the uncensored version.
When I was in my early teens in the early 90's, they kept the albums with the parental advisory under the counter, and you had to be a certain age to get them. So all the kids wanted them and found ways to get them, got older brothers to buy them, older friends, etc...
Wal-Mart must not really need the extra money, because they'res other places people can get the cd's? Hopefully customers speak with their wallets. That being said I used to have to buy my own music with paper route money/jobs etc... I guess if you're moms buying your music for you, then she might buy the wal-mart version?
I'll just say I'm glad Gore didn't become president. Otherwise his wife Tipper would have had clout to go further into censorship. She went against Frank Zappa in front of Congress to get those "warning" stickers (also known as Tipper Stickers) onto CDs. What was next...
Yeah, the Bush disaster -- two wars, countless Iraqis dead, economic collapse, the rich getting richer, torture, lies, sending science back to the 1950's -- was a nice alternative to some warning stickers on CD's. :roll:
Idiotic statement.
You know, there were three candidates, pearl jam supporting one of them in particular. ...then again, maybe you didn't know. Judging from your comment, I'll assume the latter.
I agree with your assessment of your own comment. It was indeed an idiotic statement you made. Thank you for labeling it as such. :roll:
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*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
Fuck Walmart just in general. The way they treat their employees is horrible.
Really??? I was unaware that I am treated horribly. Funny how people say F Wal-mart, yet know nothing about them other than what they have "heard" from others. Rather than take the time to investigate or research, they speak rumors and nonsense.
People talk about how Wal-Mart uses Chinese slave labor, got news for ya... so does Target, Bed Bath Beyond, and ANY other retailer you can think of. Oh yeah, including your local grocery store. I suggest if you want to start buying American products, you look in the mirror and start your own business selling such things.
What's interesting is that Wal-Mart is actually leading the industry in cleaning up China and raising the standards for the people that work in the factories. They are working hard to reduce the amount of packaging and waste they use and are moving to highly sustainable stores.
You can say what you will about the company, but understand the facts before spreading what you "heard".
Straight down the center for a hot chicken dinner!
Fuck Walmart just in general. The way they treat their employees is horrible.
Really??? I was unaware that I am treated horribly. Funny how people say F Wal-mart, yet know nothing about them other than what they have "heard" from others. Rather than take the time to investigate or research, they speak rumors and nonsense.
People talk about how Wal-Mart uses Chinese slave labor, got news for ya... so does Target, Bed Bath Beyond, and ANY other retailer you can think of. Oh yeah, including your local grocery store. I suggest if you want to start buying American products, you look in the mirror and start your own business selling such things.
What's interesting is that Wal-Mart is actually leading the industry in cleaning up China and raising the standards for the people that work in the factories. They are working hard to reduce the amount of packaging and waste they use and are moving to highly sustainable stores.
You can say what you will about the company, but understand the facts before spreading what you "heard".
I think it's more a case of a few apples ruin the whole bunch to some people. 99.9% of the store really aren't much different than any of the more localized chain stores
I dunno of any other place that is taken advantage of as much as they are, if ya wanna put the shoe on the other foot. The lengths people will go to to screw Walmart are absurd.
I never heard of a single case of an employee getting abused in any manner in my time there, and that includes several other stores in the same district.
Fuck Walmart just in general. The way they treat their employees is horrible.
Really??? I was unaware that I am treated horribly. Funny how people say F Wal-mart, yet know nothing about them other than what they have "heard" from others. Rather than take the time to investigate or research, they speak rumors and nonsense.
People talk about how Wal-Mart uses Chinese slave labor, got news for ya... so does Target, Bed Bath Beyond, and ANY other retailer you can think of. Oh yeah, including your local grocery store. I suggest if you want to start buying American products, you look in the mirror and start your own business selling such things.
What's interesting is that Wal-Mart is actually leading the industry in cleaning up China and raising the standards for the people that work in the factories. They are working hard to reduce the amount of packaging and waste they use and are moving to highly sustainable stores.
You can say what you will about the company, but understand the facts before spreading what you "heard".
How is that health insurance policy that Walmart provides for you? I figured I'd ask you since all I've "heard" is that it's non-existant unless you are a corporate suit.
Fuck Walmart just in general. The way they treat their employees is horrible.
Really??? I was unaware that I am treated horribly. Funny how people say F Wal-mart, yet know nothing about them other than what they have "heard" from others. Rather than take the time to investigate or research, they speak rumors and nonsense.
haha... I didn't want to be the one to ask him about "the way they treat their employees". Glad an employee was able to shed some real light.
btw - I shop at Walmart. Never used to, but they're close to us, so... its next to a Target. I don't see the difference buying from one big-box versus another big-box. As far as Wally affecting small-towns, that does suck. Our area though easily accommodates Wally, Tar-shey, Big K ...and multiples all within an 8 mile radius.
...however, if you don't like something, vote with your dollars! whether pro-wally, anti-wally, or whatnot.
(anyone see this thread moving onto a Train soon? )
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*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
Fuck Walmart just in general. The way they treat their employees is horrible.
Really??? I was unaware that I am treated horribly. Funny how people say F Wal-mart, yet know nothing about them other than what they have "heard" from others. Rather than take the time to investigate or research, they speak rumors and nonsense.
People talk about how Wal-Mart uses Chinese slave labor, got news for ya... so does Target, Bed Bath Beyond, and ANY other retailer you can think of. Oh yeah, including your local grocery store. I suggest if you want to start buying American products, you look in the mirror and start your own business selling such things.
What's interesting is that Wal-Mart is actually leading the industry in cleaning up China and raising the standards for the people that work in the factories. They are working hard to reduce the amount of packaging and waste they use and are moving to highly sustainable stores.
You can say what you will about the company, but understand the facts before spreading what you "heard".
How is that health insurance policy that Walmart provides for you? I figured I'd ask you since all I've "heard" is that it's non-existant unless you are a corporate suit.
My Health insurance isn't AWESOME, but I pay $12 a paycheck and my 80/20 deductible is $1000 and my unlimited is $2000 deductible. However, I have the option to pay more per paycheck and get better insurance, but I am a healthy young adult and don't need that.
Again, what you "hear" on the news is usually a single event that happend and they want to jump on it because it is an easy target.
Look, I am not defending Wal-Mart on the Green Day thing, I am just saying it (Wal-Mart) isn't as bad as people try to make it. The company really does strive to make the world a cleaner place, by the changes they are making and when Wal-Mart makes a change, it changes the industry.
Straight down the center for a hot chicken dinner!
Fuck Walmart just in general. The way they treat their employees is horrible.
Really??? I was unaware that I am treated horribly. Funny how people say F Wal-mart, yet know nothing about them other than what they have "heard" from others. Rather than take the time to investigate or research, they speak rumors and nonsense.
haha... I didn't want to be the one to ask him about "the way they treat their employees". Glad an employee was able to shed some real light.
btw - I shop at Walmart. Never used to, but they're close to us, so... its next to a Target. I don't see the difference buying from one big-box versus another big-box. As far as Wally affecting small-towns, that does suck. Our area though easily accommodates Wally, Tar-shey, Big K ...and multiples all within an 8 mile radius.
...however, if you don't like something, vote with your dollars! whether pro-wally, anti-wally, or whatnot.
(anyone see this thread moving onto a Train soon? )
Wal-Mart is less expensive. Trust me it's my job to know.
Straight down the center for a hot chicken dinner!
I agree Fuck Walmart. I try not to shop there ever! They are helping to put the small business owners like myself out of work...tell artist what they can say,or god forbid we won't sell your record.
Keep america america, freedom of speech and the right to the american dream.
If you had two of the same product side by side and I said, here you pay me $20 for the one on the left or $15 for the one on the right? Which would you choose?
Straight down the center for a hot chicken dinner!
They'll ban music with a parental advisory sticker yet in the dvd section you can purchase scarface.....makes no sense.
Thank you! I've been saying this for years! You can't buy an album because somebody might say "fuck", but you can go buy Braveheart on dvd and watch people get decapitated.
They'll ban music with a parental advisory sticker yet in the dvd section you can purchase scarface.....makes no sense.
Thank you! I've been saying this for years! You can't buy an album because somebody might say "fuck", but you can go buy Braveheart on dvd and watch people get decapitated.
Sam's Choice hahaha
Straight down the center for a hot chicken dinner!
They'll ban music with a parental advisory sticker yet in the dvd section you can purchase scarface.....makes no sense.
Thank you! I've been saying this for years! You can't buy an album because somebody might say "fuck", but you can go buy Braveheart on dvd and watch people get decapitated.
that's nothing. ever been to their sport's section in walmart? little billy want's to get a soccor ball today. awesome! can't wait to play soccor with little billy. just about to leave the soccor section, what does little billy's eye's see close by, the next isle? guns, knifes, stabbing weapons. great!! he doesn't want to play soccor now, he want's to play now cops & robbers. "buy me a gun!" argh!!! :?
Ugh. This is exactly the reason I hate shopping at Walmart. I avoid it at all costs - not just for music, but for everything.
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EV: Los Angeles 4.12.2008, Los Angeles 4.13.2008, Nashville 6.17.2009, Nashville 6.18.2009, Memphis 6.20.2009
True Wal-Mart story - A few years ago my uncle is in there (they were new to our area then) sees a pair of Remington hip waders (for fishing). Great price and they look just like the waders of Remington past so he picks up a pair. Flyfishing season comes, he gets his new waders out, gets in the water and gets soaked. WTF? Brings them back to Wal-Mart, who tell him it's not their problem, it's Remington's.
My uncle is a VP at a large apparel company so he calls what is his counterpart at Remington after surfing the web and getting to their Corporate HQ. Explains the waders failing, how he's owned Remington waders for YEARS without fail and how Wal-Mart told him to bugger off, they got their sale. His counterpart went on to explain that because of the prices Wal-Mart DEMANDS of their suppliers, these waders were, indeed, inferior to any pair he might purchase from a sporting specialty shop.
Wal-Mart summarily lowered the quality of goods purchased in this country and spawned the myth that owning 10 of a crappy thing is somehow better than owning 1 quality thing. Personally, I would not run into a Wal-Mart to escape a sarin gas attack no matter how cheap and plentiful their gas masks are.
True Wal-Mart story - A few years ago my uncle is in there (they were new to our area then) sees a pair of Remington hip waders (for fishing). Great price and they look just like the waders of Remington past so he picks up a pair. Flyfishing season comes, he gets his new waders out, gets in the water and gets soaked. WTF? Brings them back to Wal-Mart, who tell him it's not their problem, it's Remington's.
My uncle is a VP at a large apparel company so he calls what is his counterpart at Remington after surfing the web and getting to their Corporate HQ. Explains the waders failing, how he's owned Remington waders for YEARS without fail and how Wal-Mart told him to bugger off, they got their sale. His counterpart went on to explain that because of the prices Wal-Mart DEMANDS of their suppliers, these waders were, indeed, inferior to any pair he might purchase from a sporting specialty shop.
Wal-Mart summarily lowered the quality of goods purchased in this country and spawned the myth that owning 10 of a crappy thing is somehow better than owning 1 quality thing. Personally, I would not run into a Wal-Mart to escape a sarin gas attack no matter how cheap and plentiful their gas masks are.
Why is it ok for Remington to produce a crappy product but not ok for WalMart to sell them? How is it Walmart's fault?
Much like it's on Green Day to decide whether or not to censor it, it's on Remington to not produce crap.
How long did your uncle have them before trying to take them back? For some stuff they have a limited window for return. If there's one thing I've never heard people complain about at WalMart, it's their return policy. They will take just about anything back, receipt or not.
Why is it ok for Remington to produce a crappy product but not ok for WalMart to sell them? How is it Walmart's fault?
Much like it's on Green Day to decide whether or not to censor it, it's on Remington to not produce crap.
How long did your uncle have them before trying to take them back? For some stuff they have a limited window for return. If there's one thing I've never heard people complain about at WalMart, it's their return policy. They will take just about anything back, receipt or not.
It's not okay for Remington to do that - I never said it was. However, Wal-Mart is the LARGEST retailer in the US and if you have something to sell they have a lot to say about what they'll buy it for. It's the reason companies, not just Remington, lowered their standards, sent their manufacturing to cheaper labor markets, etc. Remeber the lead toys from China that the toy companies claimed ignorance on and defended themselves with the idea that the manufacturing plants were ignoring their specifications? The poison dog food?! All of this so we think we're getting a great deal with a cheap price.
The waders were used in a timely manner, though I can't remember exactly how long. Since my uncle works in the apparel industry he's well versed in return policies and service standards. He's a very mellow guy so for him to be annoyed enough to chase the issue all the way to Remington's Corp HQ surprised me.
EDIT: I think you have the return policies of Wal-Mart and Nordstom confused. Maybe it's just the stories I've heard vs. others' experiences, but returning things at Wal-Mart is no picnic.
Why is it ok for Remington to produce a crappy product but not ok for WalMart to sell them? How is it Walmart's fault?
Much like it's on Green Day to decide whether or not to censor it, it's on Remington to not produce crap.
How long did your uncle have them before trying to take them back? For some stuff they have a limited window for return. If there's one thing I've never heard people complain about at WalMart, it's their return policy. They will take just about anything back, receipt or not.
It's not okay for Remington to do that - I never said it was. However, Wal-Mart is the LARGEST retailer in the US and if you have something to sell they have a lot to say about what they'll buy it for. It's the reason companies, not just Remington, lowered their standards, sent their manufacturing to cheaper labor markets, etc. Remeber the lead toys from China that the toy companies claimed ignorance on and defended themselves with the idea that the manufacturing plants were ignoring their specifications? The poison dog food?! All of this so we think we're getting a great deal with a cheap price.
The waders were used in a timely manner, though I can't remember exactly how long. Since my uncle works in the apparel industry he's well versed in return policies and service standards. He's a very mellow guy so for him to be annoyed enough to chase the issue all the way to Remington's Corp HQ surprised me.
EDIT: I think you have the return policies of Wal-Mart and Nordstom confused. Maybe it's just the stories I've heard vs. others' experiences, but returning things at Wal-Mart is no picnic.
Still doesnt negate the fact that Walmart is still just selling it. There are plenty of companies out there that don't cheapen their standards just so WM will sell it and WM isn't making them make crappy products.
What is a timely manner? I know you can't return most electronics to WM after 15 days. I'm sure there's similar policies for other products.
I don't even know what a Nordtrom's is. I used to work at WM and virtually everything was approved for return, receipt or not. We had people bring their old shoes back to trade them for new ones, repeatedly. This varies a bit from store to store and depending on the managers mood, of course.
Why is it ok for Remington to produce a crappy product but not ok for WalMart to sell them? How is it Walmart's fault?
Much like it's on Green Day to decide whether or not to censor it, it's on Remington to not produce crap.
How long did your uncle have them before trying to take them back? For some stuff they have a limited window for return. If there's one thing I've never heard people complain about at WalMart, it's their return policy. They will take just about anything back, receipt or not.
It's not okay for Remington to do that - I never said it was. However, Wal-Mart is the LARGEST retailer in the US and if you have something to sell they have a lot to say about what they'll buy it for. It's the reason companies, not just Remington, lowered their standards, sent their manufacturing to cheaper labor markets, etc. Remeber the lead toys from China that the toy companies claimed ignorance on and defended themselves with the idea that the manufacturing plants were ignoring their specifications? The poison dog food?! All of this so we think we're getting a great deal with a cheap price.
The waders were used in a timely manner, though I can't remember exactly how long. Since my uncle works in the apparel industry he's well versed in return policies and service standards. He's a very mellow guy so for him to be annoyed enough to chase the issue all the way to Remington's Corp HQ surprised me.
EDIT: I think you have the return policies of Wal-Mart and Nordstom confused. Maybe it's just the stories I've heard vs. others' experiences, but returning things at Wal-Mart is no picnic.
Still doesnt negate the fact that Walmart is still just selling it. There are plenty of companies out there that don't cheapen their standards just so WM will sell it and WM isn't making them make crappy products.
What is a timely manner? I know you can't return most electronics to WM after 15 days. I'm sure there's similar policies for other products.
I don't even know what a Nordtrom's is. I used to work at WM and virtually everything was approved for return, receipt or not. We had people bring their old shoes back to trade them for new ones, repeatedly. This varies a bit from store to store and depending on the managers mood, of course.
You're right. I have never, ever been turned away when trying to return something to Wal-Mart. Even stuff I know for a fact I didn't get there.
The only limitation I've come across is they will only allow three returns per person without a receipt within 90 days. If I have to go over that, I'll have to let my wife do the returning for me.
This has come up a lot recently, because we began buying diapers for our baby almost literally the day we found out we were pregnant. We didn't care about sizes. Now, we have a bunch of diapers our baby has grown out of. We're STILL exchanging diapers from 18 months ago to get the appropriate sizes. No questions asked.
There are a lot of reasons to bitch about Wal-Mart (I guess). Their return policy certainly isn't one of them.
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Sell outs!
Yeah, the Bush disaster -- two wars, countless Iraqis dead, economic collapse, the rich getting richer, torture, lies, sending science back to the 1950's -- was a nice alternative to some warning stickers on CD's. :roll:
Idiotic statement.
Keep america america, freedom of speech and the right to the american dream.
When I was in my early teens in the early 90's, they kept the albums with the parental advisory under the counter, and you had to be a certain age to get them. So all the kids wanted them and found ways to get them, got older brothers to buy them, older friends, etc...
Wal-Mart must not really need the extra money, because they'res other places people can get the cd's? Hopefully customers speak with their wallets. That being said I used to have to buy my own music with paper route money/jobs etc... I guess if you're moms buying your music for you, then she might buy the wal-mart version?
You know, there were three candidates, pearl jam supporting one of them in particular. ...then again, maybe you didn't know. Judging from your comment, I'll assume the latter.
I agree with your assessment of your own comment. It was indeed an idiotic statement you made. Thank you for labeling it as such. :roll:
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
And I got their box set there the day it came out for $24...no kidding.....
And, like someone else said, PJ records never have a parental sticker...even with lines like
"I'll never suck Satan's dick...
Again, you'd see it, you know, right round the lips"
says the guy that's strollin through Wal-Mart's doors to buy something.
Really??? I was unaware that I am treated horribly. Funny how people say F Wal-mart, yet know nothing about them other than what they have "heard" from others. Rather than take the time to investigate or research, they speak rumors and nonsense.
People talk about how Wal-Mart uses Chinese slave labor, got news for ya... so does Target, Bed Bath Beyond, and ANY other retailer you can think of. Oh yeah, including your local grocery store. I suggest if you want to start buying American products, you look in the mirror and start your own business selling such things.
What's interesting is that Wal-Mart is actually leading the industry in cleaning up China and raising the standards for the people that work in the factories. They are working hard to reduce the amount of packaging and waste they use and are moving to highly sustainable stores.
You can say what you will about the company, but understand the facts before spreading what you "heard".
I think it's more a case of a few apples ruin the whole bunch to some people. 99.9% of the store really aren't much different than any of the more localized chain stores
I dunno of any other place that is taken advantage of as much as they are, if ya wanna put the shoe on the other foot. The lengths people will go to to screw Walmart are absurd.
I never heard of a single case of an employee getting abused in any manner in my time there, and that includes several other stores in the same district.
How is that health insurance policy that Walmart provides for you? I figured I'd ask you since all I've "heard" is that it's non-existant unless you are a corporate suit.
9/29/04 Boston, 6/28/08 Mansfield, 8/23/09 Chicago, 5/15/10 Hartford
5/17/10 Boston, 10/15/13 Worcester, 10/16/13 Worcester, 10/25/13 Hartford
8/5/16 Fenway, 8/7/16 Fenway
EV Solo: 6/16/11 Boston, 6/18/11 Hartford,
haha... I didn't want to be the one to ask him about "the way they treat their employees". Glad an employee was able to shed some real light.
btw - I shop at Walmart. Never used to, but they're close to us, so... its next to a Target. I don't see the difference buying from one big-box versus another big-box. As far as Wally affecting small-towns, that does suck. Our area though easily accommodates Wally, Tar-shey, Big K ...and multiples all within an 8 mile radius.
...however, if you don't like something, vote with your dollars! whether pro-wally, anti-wally, or whatnot.
(anyone see this thread moving onto a Train soon?
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
My Health insurance isn't AWESOME, but I pay $12 a paycheck and my 80/20 deductible is $1000 and my unlimited is $2000 deductible. However, I have the option to pay more per paycheck and get better insurance, but I am a healthy young adult and don't need that.
Again, what you "hear" on the news is usually a single event that happend and they want to jump on it because it is an easy target.
Look, I am not defending Wal-Mart on the Green Day thing, I am just saying it (Wal-Mart) isn't as bad as people try to make it. The company really does strive to make the world a cleaner place, by the changes they are making and when Wal-Mart makes a change, it changes the industry.
Wal-Mart is less expensive. Trust me
If you had two of the same product side by side and I said, here you pay me $20 for the one on the left or $15 for the one on the right? Which would you choose?
Do you buy Walls there?
Thank you! I've been saying this for years! You can't buy an album because somebody might say "fuck", but you can go buy Braveheart on dvd and watch people get decapitated.
Sam's Choice
Yep, very true. Just like Raidohead did.
that's nothing. ever been to their sport's section in walmart? little billy want's to get a soccor ball today. awesome! can't wait to play soccor with little billy. just about to leave the soccor section, what does little billy's eye's see close by, the next isle? guns, knifes, stabbing weapons. great!! he doesn't want to play soccor now, he want's to play now cops & robbers. "buy me a gun!" argh!!! :?
Don't know what you're talking about. You definitely won't catch me strolling through those doors.
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My uncle is a VP at a large apparel company so he calls what is his counterpart at Remington after surfing the web and getting to their Corporate HQ. Explains the waders failing, how he's owned Remington waders for YEARS without fail and how Wal-Mart told him to bugger off, they got their sale. His counterpart went on to explain that because of the prices Wal-Mart DEMANDS of their suppliers, these waders were, indeed, inferior to any pair he might purchase from a sporting specialty shop.
Wal-Mart summarily lowered the quality of goods purchased in this country and spawned the myth that owning 10 of a crappy thing is somehow better than owning 1 quality thing. Personally, I would not run into a Wal-Mart to escape a sarin gas attack no matter how cheap and plentiful their gas masks are.
Why is it ok for Remington to produce a crappy product but not ok for WalMart to sell them? How is it Walmart's fault?
Much like it's on Green Day to decide whether or not to censor it, it's on Remington to not produce crap.
How long did your uncle have them before trying to take them back? For some stuff they have a limited window for return. If there's one thing I've never heard people complain about at WalMart, it's their return policy. They will take just about anything back, receipt or not.
The waders were used in a timely manner, though I can't remember exactly how long. Since my uncle works in the apparel industry he's well versed in return policies and service standards. He's a very mellow guy so for him to be annoyed enough to chase the issue all the way to Remington's Corp HQ surprised me.
EDIT: I think you have the return policies of Wal-Mart and Nordstom confused. Maybe it's just the stories I've heard vs. others' experiences, but returning things at Wal-Mart is no picnic.
Still doesnt negate the fact that Walmart is still just selling it. There are plenty of companies out there that don't cheapen their standards just so WM will sell it and WM isn't making them make crappy products.
What is a timely manner? I know you can't return most electronics to WM after 15 days. I'm sure there's similar policies for other products.
I don't even know what a Nordtrom's is. I used to work at WM and virtually everything was approved for return, receipt or not. We had people bring their old shoes back to trade them for new ones, repeatedly. This varies a bit from store to store and depending on the managers mood, of course.
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You're right. I have never, ever been turned away when trying to return something to Wal-Mart. Even stuff I know for a fact I didn't get there.
The only limitation I've come across is they will only allow three returns per person without a receipt within 90 days. If I have to go over that, I'll have to let my wife do the returning for me.
This has come up a lot recently, because we began buying diapers for our baby almost literally the day we found out we were pregnant. We didn't care about sizes. Now, we have a bunch of diapers our baby has grown out of. We're STILL exchanging diapers from 18 months ago to get the appropriate sizes. No questions asked.
There are a lot of reasons to bitch about Wal-Mart (I guess). Their return policy certainly isn't one of them.
for the least they could possibly do