why doesn't pj just seat general admission floor?

cippociappo

I guess americans just can't manage the pit

Ryan_WFC

pdalowsky wrote:

I mean could you imagine sitting down for a RATM show?? of course we are talking PJ here but the logic still applies.

I personally have never seen people sitting down at a Pearl Jam show. Maybe up in the rafters, but that's irrelevant to the pit anyway.

Get_Right

im too old to stand for four hours, and if I wanna take a piss, get a beer or some munchies, I want to go back to my spot

plus there are too many inconsiderate and disrespectful people that show up at the last minute and try push there way to the front

ga sucks and is dangerous with large crowds.

kiljoythemerciful

I think it would be nice if they mixed in some GA shows. I do think GA, especially looking at some of the shows abroad, creates more energy. Some of the US shows with the experienced ten clubbers seeing their 5th show in seven or eight nights can suck the life right out of a show. Or heaven forbid, you get a "clunker" of a setlist after a show that has been deemed "special". Every diehard yahoo is yucking it up during the show comparing the current setlist with past nights.

Throw in a couple of GA's here or there, keep things interesting. Let passion reign for a night, instead of entitlement. My number is 134xxx so that has nothing to do with my comments.

Bugs29

The band is aging?!?!?!?!?!?!?! have you seen them onstage?!?! in zagreb (2006) ed climbed the light tower (about 20 feet up)....and keep in mind he was already a father and a whopping 43 years old........rock is full of energy, that's the point and the shows should reflect that! I don't want anyone getting hurt, but i think everyone against GA is exaggerating what a modern day pit is...

Bugs29

Get_Right wrote:

im too old to stand for four hours, and if I wanna take a piss, get a beer or some munchies, I want to go back to my spot

plus there are too many inconsiderate and disrespectful people that show up at the last minute and try push there way to the front

ga sucks and is dangerous with large crowds.

If the band read this and knew you were actually eating while they're playing they would cry and wonder what they're doing wrong....that's a funny visual, a guy standing in front of his seat eating a sausage, bobbing his head up and down while aging ed is jumping around onstage during Go....oh man

pdalowsky

RM181658 wrote:

Get_Right wrote:

im too old to stand for four hours, and if I wanna take a piss, get a beer or some munchies, I want to go back to my spot

plus there are too many inconsiderate and disrespectful people that show up at the last minute and try push there way to the front

ga sucks and is dangerous with large crowds.

If the band read this and knew you were actually eating while they're playing they would cry and wonder what they're doing wrong....that's a funny visual, a guy standing in front of his seat eating a sausage, bobbing his head up and down while aging ed is jumping around onstage during Go....oh man

exactly, looks like someone thinks they are off to see a shit film.....

Personally when i go see a band, I go see a band, getting a pint during the show is the last thing on my mind, christ i might miss a song....there will be people calling for an interval and a curtain down moment before long....so they can get a bovril

Cardinal

dangerboy wrote:

Jennytree wrote:

jimed14 wrote:

... that's who Pearl Jam is playing for,

Hehe, I don't think so... definitely not in Europe anyway!

Ever since I started going to shows, it's been GA. You find a way thats comfy for you. Not all GA shows are mosh pits all over the floor - you'll find that in the first 10-20 rows, behind that are all the people standing, rockin' out, hair flyin', singin' along with everyone beside you... If you don't like getting pushed and shoved, stand at the back of the crowd with the other peeps, or buy a seating ticket for the side. Leave us to do our dancing in peace

how about you switch that up? if you want to slam into each other and not really watch the band, let's have a specially roped off section for you at the back of the floor behind the soundboard, so people who want to enjoy the show without personal injury can see the band close up...

Great idea......go dance where your not distracting everyone like teenages......I came to watch the band and enjoy the music...not watch people do their dancing.

pdalowsky

how about you switch that up? if you want to slam into each other and not really watch the band, let's have a specially roped off section for you at the back of the floor behind the soundboard, so people who want to enjoy the show without personal injury can see the band close up...[/quote]
Great idea......go dance where your not distracting everyone like teenages......I came to watch the band and enjoy the music...not watch people do their dancing.[/quote]


think you've just missed the point here, I'm not sure that anyone was suggesting we 'watch people do their dancing'...that would be really dumb when PJ are on the stage wouldnt it?

ewokpelts

Americans are more stupid than europeans. plain and simple.

im america, ga means mosh pit. even for guys pushing 40 who want to relive thier glory days.

Cardinal

What a winner post.

Lets just call everyone stupid or dumb or what have you because we dont get our way

Get_Right

RM181658 wrote:

Get_Right wrote:

im too old to stand for four hours, and if I wanna take a piss, get a beer or some munchies, I want to go back to my spot

plus there are too many inconsiderate and disrespectful people that show up at the last minute and try push there way to the front

ga sucks and is dangerous with large crowds.

If the band read this and knew you were actually eating while they're playing they would cry and wonder what they're doing wrong....that's a funny visual, a guy standing in front of his seat eating a sausage, bobbing his head up and down while aging ed is jumping around onstage during Go....oh man

I never said during the time when the band plays
ga sucks because you cant leave a good spot at all, that was my point
but I am guilty of sneaking out during certain songs I don't care for-mostly for beer or a quick piss

pdalowsky

Get_Right wrote:

RM181658 wrote:

Get_Right wrote:

im too old to stand for four hours, and if I wanna take a piss, get a beer or some munchies, I want to go back to my spot

plus there are too many inconsiderate and disrespectful people that show up at the last minute and try push there way to the front

ga sucks and is dangerous with large crowds.

If the band read this and knew you were actually eating while they're playing they would cry and wonder what they're doing wrong....that's a funny visual, a guy standing in front of his seat eating a sausage, bobbing his head up and down while aging ed is jumping around onstage during Go....oh man

I never said during the time when the band plays
ga sucks because you cant leave a good spot at all, that was my point
but I am guilty of sneaking out during certain songs I don't care for-mostly for beer or a quick piss

but why would you want to leave a good spot??

and in the crowds in the Uk if you have a good spot and you are with others, those people usually have no problem letting you back to that spot.

Bugs29

since we would never agree on who should stand where, let's see what the band would think.........the band generally feeds off the crowd, they feed off the ENERGY of the crowd. Is energy standing there eating and drinking? They always say they love Italy, and why? because they're active, they feel the energy and express it....and this is the point of Rock music. If you can't, then it's okay, not everyone is so expressive, and not everyone is there for the same reason either...but for the sake of keeping the band and show alive make all shows GA!
Of course in the US they can't get rid of seating but I'm sure they would toss them if they could...

wayne823

The main reason I believe is that American venues don't allow it. I know the UC and Allstate Arenas in Chicago do not allow GA concets for insurance reasons.

Get_Right

pdalowsky wrote:

but why would you want to leave a good spot??

and in the crowds in the Uk if you have a good spot and you are with others, those people usually have no problem letting you back to that spot.

a valid question
to get a choice spot you need to get in early and stay put-for hours
its just not fun to me, as I rarely go in to catch opening bands, and being at the back of the floor or a pit section, blows

its really simple, I just like having my own little space where I can come and go as I please, without the hassle of GA
I dont mind smaller GA shows of less than 1000 people, but for big shows like PJ, I like my reserved space
-thats all there is to it really

Get_Right

RM181658 wrote:

since we would never agree on who should stand where, let's see what the band would think.........the band generally feeds off the crowd, they feed off the ENERGY of the crowd. Is energy standing there eating and drinking? They always say they love Italy, and why? because they're active, they feel the energy and express it....and this is the point of Rock music. If you can't, then it's okay, not everyone is so expressive...but for the sake of keeping the band and show alive make all shows GA!
Of course in the US they can't get rid of seating but I'm sure they would toss them if they could...

funny, because Ive seen more than a few energetic shows that were reserved
in fact the best PJ shows Ive seen (with the exception of two-Randalls 96 and the borgata 05) were all reserved
and Im just curious what your 10c number is, because I have this theory that those with higher numbers prefer GA while those with lower number prefer reserved
my number isnt that great, 175XXX, but it gets me close enough

InMyTree4

i love GA its my only chance at getting front row (twice ) because i have a high nimber....and theres way more energy and more passion and fun!

DewieCox

I don't remember any stages shakin so much that the band was a bit concerned, in Europe. I don't think anybody should be doubting any region as far as crowd energy.

When seats start makin PJ's performance worse b/c of reserved seating, then I'll worry about it.

Wilds

DewieCox wrote:

I don't remember any stages shakin so much that the band was a bit concerned, in Europe. I don't think anybody should be doubting any region as far as crowd energy.

When seats start makin PJ's performance worse b/c of reserved seating, then I'll worry about it.

Yeah. Where is the boot of Eddie commenting about the entire stage bouncing up and down from Europe?

Each venue brings a different crowd and a different energy. To say that a GA audience alone makes for the only fully energized crowd is beyond ignorant IMO.