I love that there is no lottery. It should ALWAYS be based on seniority.
Admittedly, this is coming from someone with a shit number, so without the lottery I'd never get towards the front, but is losing a mere four rows (which is what? 12-15 feet at most?) really that big a deal for people with low numbers? You'll still be at the front, and it's good to share the wealth with the people who have never been there are will never be again, no? It seems like PJ do a lot to make sure everyone enjoys the show, not just the same few hundred fans night after night. I may be biased, but I don't understand how anyone can think the lottery is a bad thing.
2006- Boston I
2008- Boston I+II
2009- Toronto, Philly III+IV
2010- Bristow, Hartford, Boston, Newark
the lottery cool concept, but if you really want to make it fair you have to mix it up, not just make it 1st 2 rows and 9/10. Some shows it should be like 6-8 and 14-16 etc. The BEST perk of the TC is the good seats, and though you can argue for letting newbies up there who were not around in 92-95 era and so on the same can be made to say let the old farts keep their rights too.
Yeah I know bitching about 3rd row is pretty lame, but why is it any fairer to knock the old crew back any more than it is to let the new crew up front? Yes some of the road hogs will be seen up front a lot again, but if you are watching them and not the band then you have big issues as far as I am concerned. Stop worrying about where you are and worry about the fun of being there.
So lottery cool, just mix it up don't always make the rows the same static position.
If you want to piss everyone off make every seat random....now that is really the only true fair way then isn't it? Why should ten clubbers get all the good seats, throw the ticket master people in the fray too.....oh that sounds lame, we have rights as ten club members! Oh yeah, one of those has always been seniority gets you closer.
My point is both sides have valid arguments, one is not right over the other as someone will feel slighted no matter what. Just enjoy the fucking show!!
Here is a great idea, how about Pearl Jam decides that since we all love to cry over the rules that they put out for there shows, they decide to say fuck it and no more seats for anyone than what, I see than that means that every scum bag ticket brooker will get great seats and we will be sol, so lets all stop bitching and enjoy the shows. And for all of you that dont like the system that they have in place than just dont renew your membership and everyone will be happy
though you can argue for letting newbies up there who were not around in 92-95 era
I can see both sides of this issue...that said, I don't believe that the length of time you have been a member of the 10C is indicative of how long you have been a fan of PJ.
though you can argue for letting newbies up there who were not around in 92-95 era
I can see both sides of this issue...that said, I don't believe that the length of time you have been a member of the 10C is indicative of how long you have been a fan of PJ.
10C seniority isn't meant to be a "fandom" indicator,...
To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
Here is a great idea, how about Pearl Jam decides that since we all love to cry over the rules that they put out for there shows, they decide to say fuck it and no more seats for anyone than what, I see than that means that every scum bag ticket brooker will get great seats and we will be sol, so lets all stop bitching and enjoy the shows.
Amen.
"They said ... timing was everything
made him ... want to be everywhere
there's a ... lot to be said for nowhere."
I love that there is no lottery. It should ALWAYS be based on seniority.
Admittedly, this is coming from someone with a shit number, so without the lottery I'd never get towards the front, but is losing a mere four rows (which is what? 12-15 feet at most?) really that big a deal for people with low numbers? You'll still be at the front, and it's good to share the wealth with the people who have never been there are will never be again, no? It seems like PJ do a lot to make sure everyone enjoys the show, not just the same few hundred fans night after night. I may be biased, but I don't understand how anyone can think the lottery is a bad thing.
Ten Club tickets are for reserved seating and will be allocated by seniority. Seat locations will be reserved from the 1st row on the floor, extending back, and the side sections closest to the stage. The longer you have been in the fan club, the closer your seats will be to the stage. Newer members should not expect prime seat locations. Proximity to the stage is contingent on the amount of members in attendance. Seat location is NOT revealed prior to the performance
obviously the older fans with older numbers like it one way and the newer fans like the lottery.
it's all good with me, whatever PJ decides. it's their show, its our show.
Amy The Great #74594
New Orleans LA 7/4/95 reschedule 9/17/95
Chicago IL 1998, 10/9/00, 06/18/03, 05/16/06, 05/17/06
08/23/09, 08/24/09, Lolla 08/05/07
Champaign IL 4/23/03
Grand Rapids MI VFC 10/03/04
Grand Rapids MI 19May06
Noblesville IN 05/07/10 Cleveland OH 05/09/10
PJ 20 2011
Baltimore MD, Charlottesville VA, Seattle WA 2013
St. Louis MO, Milwaukee WI 2014
Tampa FL, Chicago IL, Lexington KY 2016 Missoula MT 2018
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Admittedly, this is coming from someone with a shit number, so without the lottery I'd never get towards the front, but is losing a mere four rows (which is what? 12-15 feet at most?) really that big a deal for people with low numbers? You'll still be at the front, and it's good to share the wealth with the people who have never been there are will never be again, no? It seems like PJ do a lot to make sure everyone enjoys the show, not just the same few hundred fans night after night. I may be biased, but I don't understand how anyone can think the lottery is a bad thing.
2008- Boston I+II
2009- Toronto, Philly III+IV
2010- Bristow, Hartford, Boston, Newark
Yeah I know bitching about 3rd row is pretty lame, but why is it any fairer to knock the old crew back any more than it is to let the new crew up front? Yes some of the road hogs will be seen up front a lot again, but if you are watching them and not the band then you have big issues as far as I am concerned. Stop worrying about where you are and worry about the fun of being there.
So lottery cool, just mix it up don't always make the rows the same static position.
If you want to piss everyone off make every seat random....now that is really the only true fair way then isn't it? Why should ten clubbers get all the good seats, throw the ticket master people in the fray too.....oh that sounds lame, we have rights as ten club members! Oh yeah, one of those has always been seniority gets you closer.
My point is both sides have valid arguments, one is not right over the other as someone will feel slighted no matter what. Just enjoy the fucking show!!
This argument wins.
2008- Boston I+II
2009- Toronto, Philly III+IV
2010- Bristow, Hartford, Boston, Newark
I can see both sides of this issue...that said, I don't believe that the length of time you have been a member of the 10C is indicative of how long you have been a fan of PJ.
10C seniority isn't meant to be a "fandom" indicator,...
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
Amen.
made him ... want to be everywhere
there's a ... lot to be said for nowhere."
I agree
I think this says it all...I like it...
it's all good with me, whatever PJ decides. it's their show, its our show.
New Orleans LA 7/4/95 reschedule 9/17/95
Chicago IL 1998, 10/9/00, 06/18/03, 05/16/06, 05/17/06
08/23/09, 08/24/09, Lolla 08/05/07
Champaign IL 4/23/03
Grand Rapids MI VFC 10/03/04
Grand Rapids MI 19May06
Noblesville IN 05/07/10 Cleveland OH 05/09/10
PJ 20 2011
Baltimore MD, Charlottesville VA, Seattle WA 2013
St. Louis MO, Milwaukee WI 2014
Tampa FL, Chicago IL, Lexington KY 2016
Missoula MT 2018