Why are TenClub tickets much more expensive??

dunkman

first off... i'm not really moaning... well i am.. but i wonder why the tickets are more expensive? No 10c privileges at either Manchester or London yet the tickets are £10-15 per ticket more expensive?

Pearl Jam return to the M.E.N Arena for the first time since 2000 as part of a four-date European tour. Tickets for the Monday 17 August show, priced £30.00 & £37.50, go on sale 9.00am Friday 8 May.

http://www.men-arena.com/about/?page_id=1590

why have i just paid £45 per ticket? :? :?

so now i pay £20 per year membership just so i can pay more for tickets? seems a bit odd?

love-boat-captain

it makes me laugh so much that when writing these type of messages, the poster feels they have to first apologize to other fan on this forum. it's crazy

Seriously though dunkman, you don't have to apologize to anyone, i think you have raised a good point that I agree with and would also like to know the reason for. Afterall, we are allowed to asked questions.

or are we

sultryevening

i wondered exactly the same when the tenclub tix went on sale
especially in regards to the standing tickets

but at the end of the day
my nerve went and I bought from Tenclub rather than chance ticketmaster- as i thought by the time they stick on their postage and "conveniance charge" etc it would be the same

it does stick in your throat a bit that weve paid £10-£15 quid more for exactly the same standing tickets as ticketmaster will be selling -
theres no early entry
and we have to queue to pick the tickets up as well.



common sense would tell any reasonable person in this case not to buy the tenclub standing tix

but I did anyway

Steve Dunne

dunk - sounds like the boys are cutting into your beer money!!!!!! :shock:

dunkman

Steve Dunne wrote:

dunk - sounds like the boys are cutting into your beer money!!!!!! :shock:

exactly... and when dunk no get beer... dunk get mad!!! yyaaaaghhh

i just dont see the deal with this... i pay £10+ more per ticket and to be able to do that i have to pay a yearly fee... i'm clearly in the wrong business

ponytd

I don't know how things work over there, or if you use ticketmaster, but if you do, then you're probably paying less. For the Eddie solo show at Nashville, I got 10C tickets and they were $81 each. On ticketbastard, they were listed at $73 each and after the surcharges, tax, venue service charges and whatever else, they were around $90. So you're most likely not paying more, it just seems that way because ours are a flat fee with some of the charges already added in whereas the other tickets don't have that added in yet. But like I said, I don't know how things are done over there for ya'll.

meme

ponytd wrote:

I don't know how things work over there, or if you use ticketmaster, but if you do, then you're probably paying less. For the Eddie solo show at Nashville, I got 10C tickets and they were $81 each. On ticketbastard, they were listed at $73 each and after the surcharges, tax, venue service charges and whatever else, they were around $90. So you're most likely not paying more, it just seems that way because ours are a flat fee with some of the charges already added in whereas the other tickets don't have that added in yet. But like I said, I don't know how things are done over there for ya'll.

That's what I was going to say: no fees and taxes and surcharges.
Also, I am happy to pay a little more for the absolute certainty that I will be in, and the lack of drama on the day tickets go on the public sale

Drum Machine89

Yeah I know what you mean man, pretty expensive and I am a bit annoyed that were not getting in earlier than others but I just wanted to buy the tickets straight away. I've been a member since 2006 but i've never bought ten c tickets before so i wanted to this time Its worth it thou.

dunkman

ponytd wrote:

I don't know how things work over there, or if you use ticketmaster, but if you do, then you're probably paying less. For the Eddie solo show at Nashville, I got 10C tickets and they were $81 each. On ticketbastard, they were listed at $73 each and after the surcharges, tax, venue service charges and whatever else, they were around $90. So you're most likely not paying more, it just seems that way because ours are a flat fee with some of the charges already added in whereas the other tickets don't have that added in yet. But like I said, I don't know how things are done over there for ya'll.

yeah, these tickets are through LiveNation.co.uk... not TM... but no doubt will add charges and what not to it..

fair point

chime

dunkman wrote:

ponytd wrote:

I don't know how things work over there, or if you use ticketmaster, but if you do, then you're probably paying less. For the Eddie solo show at Nashville, I got 10C tickets and they were $81 each. On ticketbastard, they were listed at $73 each and after the surcharges, tax, venue service charges and whatever else, they were around $90. So you're most likely not paying more, it just seems that way because ours are a flat fee with some of the charges already added in whereas the other tickets don't have that added in yet. But like I said, I don't know how things are done over there for ya'll.

yeah, these tickets are through LiveNation.co.uk... not TM... but no doubt will add charges and what not to it..

fair point

Was the same for Wembley Dunk.

There will be some fees ... but even after fees 10c will still be more expensive. Do we know if 10c charged different amounts for standing v seating?

pjbiz

dunkman wrote:

first off... i'm not really moaning... well i am.. but i wonder why the tickets are more expensive? No 10c privileges at either Manchester or London yet the tickets are £10-15 per ticket more expensive?

Pearl Jam return to the M.E.N Arena for the first time since 2000 as part of a four-date European tour. Tickets for the Monday 17 August show, priced £30.00 & £37.50, go on sale 9.00am Friday 8 May.

http://www.men-arena.com/about/?page_id=1590

why have i just paid £45 per ticket? :? :?

so now i pay £20 per year membership just so i can pay more for tickets? seems a bit odd?

Exchange rates. The difference to what the pound was worth when they came up with the ticket prices and to what your credit card actually charges you is probably a big factor. I know I watched my hard earned money from London last year just disappear just sitting in the UK Bank.

Jason

BlueLedbetter

i noticed this as well but checking other tickets it looks like they add £6.50 service charge per ticket plus £2 delivery charge per purchase so assuming £37.50 is for standing then they will be roughly the same price

chime

BlueLedbetter wrote:

i noticed this as well but checking other tickets it looks like they add £6.50 service charge per ticket plus £2 delivery charge per purchase so assuming £37.50 is for standing then they will be roughly the same price

Would have thought the £37.50 was seating. Seats are usually more expensive than standing if they are different prices.

Anyway ... tickets are ordered ... forget about the money ... think about the gig

I know that's difficult for a Scot :P

BlueLedbetter

looking at other gigs it looks like standing and lower seating are the more expensive tickets and the upper seats are the cheaper ones

but you are right forget about the money we have a gig to look forward to (pity we havent had one up here since 2000)

pdalowsky

happy to not have to deal with tickettwats......thats always a stampede, I avoid that and pay afew pennies more....well worth it

or though Mr Dunk's point isnt any less valid...

just I'd glad i got em with no stress

Spiritual_Chaos

I bought 10c tickets for Berlin which was more expansive (57euros VS 63 euros or something) and I will not even use the early entry. (I will go in with my friends whoare buying ordinary tickets)

But, maybe I can switch with some fan here who bought oridnary tickets and want early entry when time comes.

Pauk

It is a bit annoying, but I know the time I decide to skip the 10c, the general sale will sell out before I can get a ticket. I'd rather know I have a ticket straight off without all the worrying.

It is a bit of a big price gap if the 30 quid tickets are standing though After fees 30 quid TM tickets will still only be 35-37

Fu Manchu

If it means the band get a better cut directly from us then I'm not really bothered.

ajedigecko

dunkman wrote:

Steve Dunne wrote:

dunk - sounds like the boys are cutting into your beer money!!!!!! :shock:

exactly... and when dunk no get beer... dunk get mad!!! yyaaaaghhh

i just dont see the deal with this... i pay £10+ more per ticket and to be able to do that i have to pay a yearly fee... i'm clearly in the wrong business

finally.....a picture of what i thought you looked like.

Pegasus

ponytd wrote:

I don't know how things work over there, or if you use ticketmaster, but if you do, then you're probably paying less. For the Eddie solo show at Nashville, I got 10C tickets and they were $81 each. On ticketbastard, they were listed at $73 each and after the surcharges, tax, venue service charges and whatever else, they were around $90. So you're most likely not paying more, it just seems that way because ours are a flat fee with some of the charges already added in whereas the other tickets don't have that added in yet. But like I said, I don't know how things are done over there for ya'll.

the regular TM charges here means that for the £37.50 face, you'd end up paying £44.90 for each ticket if buying a pair, at most... with some other agencies (and you can get through other agencies like Stargreen) it'd probably be less.

But even if we say it's the same with 10c, in the case of the O2 at least, it comes with a disadvantage of picking up tickets late in the day (so not knowing where you need not queue up until then).

and that's just for the UK where there are fees.. I haven't checked yet for Rotterdam and Berlin, but the precious 2 tours, in other countries where they have little/no fees (yep, that exists!), the 10c ended up way more expensive.

bazzer

Pegasus wrote:

ponytd wrote:

I don't know how things work over there, or if you use ticketmaster, but if you do, then you're probably paying less. For the Eddie solo show at Nashville, I got 10C tickets and they were $81 each. On ticketbastard, they were listed at $73 each and after the surcharges, tax, venue service charges and whatever else, they were around $90. So you're most likely not paying more, it just seems that way because ours are a flat fee with some of the charges already added in whereas the other tickets don't have that added in yet. But like I said, I don't know how things are done over there for ya'll.

the regular TM charges here means that for the £37.50 face, you'd end up paying £44.90 for each ticket if buying a pair, at most... with some other agencies (and you can get through other agencies like Stargreen) it'd probably be less.

But even if we say it's the same with 10c, in the case of the O2 at least, it comes with a disadvantage of picking up tickets late in the day (so not knowing where you need not queue up until then).

and that's just for the UK where there are fees.. I haven't checked yet for Rotterdam and Berlin, but the precious 2 tours, in other countries where they have little/no fees (yep, that exists!), the 10c ended up way more expensive.

It happened to me on the last Oz tour. I put it down to exchange rates, basically the fact we're not dealing in the original currency. I think it ended up costing about $125 instead of $100 via ticketek. I don't think for a minute the 10C is doing it to rip us off. It's just a bummer that the GA tickets come with a disadvantage, but you'd ahradly expect them to take that into account when they calculate ticket costs.

Pegasus

bazzer wrote:

Pegasus wrote:

ponytd wrote:

I don't know how things work over there, or if you use ticketmaster, but if you do, then you're probably paying less. For the Eddie solo show at Nashville, I got 10C tickets and they were $81 each. On ticketbastard, they were listed at $73 each and after the surcharges, tax, venue service charges and whatever else, they were around $90. So you're most likely not paying more, it just seems that way because ours are a flat fee with some of the charges already added in whereas the other tickets don't have that added in yet. But like I said, I don't know how things are done over there for ya'll.

the regular TM charges here means that for the £37.50 face, you'd end up paying £44.90 for each ticket if buying a pair, at most... with some other agencies (and you can get through other agencies like Stargreen) it'd probably be less.

But even if we say it's the same with 10c, in the case of the O2 at least, it comes with a disadvantage of picking up tickets late in the day (so not knowing where you need not queue up until then).

and that's just for the UK where there are fees.. I haven't checked yet for Rotterdam and Berlin, but the precious 2 tours, in other countries where they have little/no fees (yep, that exists!), the 10c ended up way more expensive.

It happened to me on the last Oz tour. I put it down to exchange rates, basically the fact we're not dealing in the original currency. I think it ended up costing about $125 instead of $100 via ticketek. I don't think for a minute the 10C is doing it to rip us off. It's just a bummer that the GA tickets come with a disadvantage, but you'd ahradly expect them to take that into account when they calculate ticket costs.

nothing to do with fluctuating exchange rate, they hadn't much moved around the times.
GA tickets are at a premium in the UK, in several other countries too (in some it's the opposite).

bazzer

Pegasus wrote:

bazzer wrote:

It happened to me on the last Oz tour. I put it down to exchange rates, basically the fact we're not dealing in the original currency. I think it ended up costing about $125 instead of $100 via ticketek. I don't think for a minute the 10C is doing it to rip us off. It's just a bummer that the GA tickets come with a disadvantage, but you'd ahradly expect them to take that into account when they calculate ticket costs.

nothing to do with fluctuating exchange rate, they hadn't much moved around the times.
GA tickets are at a premium in the UK, in several other countries too (in some it's the opposite).

I'm not talking fluctuations, I'm talking exchange rates/margins. The tickets need to be paid for in Pounds or Euro or something, 10C takes a hit when they pay the promotor for them. They charge you is USD, and you take a hit on the exchange rate again. Therefore the price you pay from 10C can be more expensive than buying direct. It doesn't seem to happen the same way in the US, so I can only put it down to the foreign currency transactions.

I'm not sure what the relevance is of your comment about GA tickets.

Pegasus

bazzer wrote:

Pegasus wrote:

bazzer wrote:

It happened to me on the last Oz tour. I put it down to exchange rates, basically the fact we're not dealing in the original currency. I think it ended up costing about $125 instead of $100 via ticketek. I don't think for a minute the 10C is doing it to rip us off. It's just a bummer that the GA tickets come with a disadvantage, but you'd ahradly expect them to take that into account when they calculate ticket costs.

nothing to do with fluctuating exchange rate, they hadn't much moved around the times.
GA tickets are at a premium in the UK, in several other countries too (in some it's the opposite).

I'm not talking fluctuations, I'm talking exchange rates/margins. The tickets need to be paid for in Pounds or Euro or something, 10C takes a hit when they pay the promotor for them. They charge you is USD, and you take a hit on the exchange rate again. Therefore the price you pay from 10C can be more expensive than buying direct. It doesn't seem to happen the same way in the US, so I can only put it down to the foreign currency transactions.

I'm not sure what the relevance is of your comment about GA tickets.

that was to respond to this..which I can't quite understand but thought you meant that GA are cheaper or something.
I'm not taking hit on exchange rate because my bank is very nice (well, they're not quite as nice from this month but..) and charge no fee... I calculate anyway by the official rate not what my bank charged.
the fee that 10c might get between €/£ and $ doesn't justify prices that are as expensive as if the most expensive booking fee+postal fees applied (since they get it straight from the promoter, there's no reason to charge $12 above face..no amount of exchange fee will add up to that), let alone when as in some places in 06 it was 25% higher.