The Craft Beer Thread....

tempo_n_groove

HesCalledDyer said:

Sam Adams sucks. Porch Rocker is about the only thing halfway decent they make.

Their White Christmas is fantastic, Oktoberfest is really good too but they are seasonal.

Try the Utopia if you have the money.

JK_Livin

tempo_n_groove said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Sam Adams sucks. Porch Rocker is about the only thing halfway decent they make.

Their White Christmas is fantastic, Oktoberfest is really good too but they are seasonal.

Try the Utopia if you have the money.

Agree with the White Christmas.

HesCalledDyer

The Juggler said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Sam Adams sucks. Porch Rocker is about the only thing halfway decent they make.

Their Rebel IPA's aren't bad

I can only stomach a few certain IPA's. Most of them taste like earwax to me. Not that I've tasted earwax but if earwax has a taste, I'm gonna guess an IPA is pretty close. It's like all the brewers got in this contest to see who could make the most face-cringing, bitter-tasting beer.

Indifference71

HesCalledDyer said:

Sam Adams sucks. Porch Rocker is about the only thing halfway decent they make.

Agreed. Sam Adams is garbage. I've never had any Sam Adams beer that I really liked....don't get how they are so huge.

tempo_n_groove

HesCalledDyer said:

The Juggler said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Sam Adams sucks. Porch Rocker is about the only thing halfway decent they make.

Their Rebel IPA's aren't bad

I can only stomach a few certain IPA's. Most of them taste like earwax to me. Not that I've tasted earwax but if earwax has a taste, I'm gonna guess an IPA is pretty close. It's like all the brewers got in this contest to see who could make the most face-cringing, bitter-tasting beer.

Take your pinky and put the tip of it in your ear hole, be sure not to go too deep for fear of puncturing your eardrum. In a circular motion move your pinky around in your ear for a few seconds. Pull finger out and immediately into mouth and suck on your pinky as if it were a tootsie roll lollipop.

THAT is what earwax tastes like...

Jearlpam0925

I like how the new thing is to shit on IPAs because everyone makes one now.

tempo_n_groove

Jearlpam0925 said:

I like how the new thing is to shit on IPAs because everyone makes one now.

I will say this. I haven't had one since Sculpin that knocked my sox off.

I am a huge fan of all the BA (Barrel Aging) that is out there. It's nice to be able to let a beer sit and age it!

mfc2006

tempo_n_groove said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

I like how the new thing is to shit on IPAs because everyone makes one now.

I will say this. I haven't had one since Sculpin that knocked my sox off.

I am a huge fan of all the BA (Barrel Aging) that is out there. It's nice to be able to let a beer sit and age it!

I could suggest a few that make Sculpin taste weak (in my opinion).

I like the BA beers...as long as they aren't too boozy. I want to taste the beer, not the alcohol.

I've been drinking more Farmhouse & Gose Style beers lately. But I just opened up Oakshire's Citrafonix IPA for a bit of a change & it's pretty damn good.

The Juggler

Sierra Nevada's Tropical Torpedo is pretty good. Had a 6 pack of that for Masters Sunday

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/140/251571/

mfc2006

The Juggler said:

Sierra Nevada's Tropical Torpedo is pretty good. Had a 6 pack of that for Masters Sunday

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/140/251571/

that is good....been impressed withe their beers lately. Big fan of the Otra Vez. So damn tasty.

HesCalledDyer

Jearlpam0925 said:

I like how the new thing is to shit on IPAs because everyone makes one now.

Conversely, I like how everyone thinks IPAs are the end-all, be-all of beer. Like if you can't handle drinking one, you're not a man or some dumb bullshit. I've shit on IPAs for a decade. They're gross.

mcgruff10

HesCalledDyer said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

I like how the new thing is to shit on IPAs because everyone makes one now.

Conversely, I like how everyone thinks IPAs are the end-all, be-all of beer. Like if you can't handle drinking one, you're not a man or some dumb bullshit. I've shit on IPAs for a decade. They're gross.

I love ipa's (and I do love sam adams) but absolutely loathe porters and the majority of stouts. now the cool thing to do is to infuse as many disgusting flavors as you can in a beer. "hey guys, try my raspberry, bacon, doughnut, kale stout. it's legit a meal!"
oh and I'd rather throw up in my mouth then drink a sour beer lol.

Indifference71

mcgruff10 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

I like how the new thing is to shit on IPAs because everyone makes one now.

Conversely, I like how everyone thinks IPAs are the end-all, be-all of beer. Like if you can't handle drinking one, you're not a man or some dumb bullshit. I've shit on IPAs for a decade. They're gross.

I love ipa's (and I do love sam adams) but absolutely loathe porters and the majority of stouts. now the cool thing to do is to infuse as many disgusting flavors as you can in a beer. "hey guys, try my raspberry, bacon, doughnut, kale stout. it's legit a meal!"
oh and I'd rather throw up in my mouth then drink a sour beer lol.

LOL. Completely agree. I'm a huge IPA fan...can't get enough hops! I don't get the whole stout/porter thing...I don't want a marshmallow and coffee flavored beer. To each their own...plenty of beer out there to go around.

HesCalledDyer

I'm not a stout fan either, but I love a good porter. Key word = good. Something about the smokiness that I really enjoy. I wouldn't knock back glass after glass of a porter, a little too robust for that. But a pint with a country breakfast or with some good barbecue and I'm a happy guy.
Stouts are too... creamy, milky... not sure what the exact word I'm looking for is but the texture just doesn't feel like beer.

mcgruff10

HesCalledDyer said:

I'm not a stout fan either, but I love a good porter. Key word = good. Something about the smokiness that I really enjoy. I wouldn't knock back glass after glass of a porter, a little too robust for that. But a pint with a country breakfast or with some good barbecue and I'm a happy guy.
Stouts are too... creamy, milky... not sure what the exact word I'm looking for is but the texture just doesn't feel like beer.

What s the difference between the two? Stouts are little less thick?

HesCalledDyer

mcgruff10 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I'm not a stout fan either, but I love a good porter. Key word = good. Something about the smokiness that I really enjoy. I wouldn't knock back glass after glass of a porter, a little too robust for that. But a pint with a country breakfast or with some good barbecue and I'm a happy guy.
Stouts are too... creamy, milky... not sure what the exact word I'm looking for is but the texture just doesn't feel like beer.

What s the difference between the two? Stouts are little less thick?

The only real difference I know of is the malt that's used. Stouts typically use pale or stout malts whereas porters typically use brown malt. But stouts can also be brewed with brown malts so it's kind of ambiguous. Stouts do tend to be less heavy, which contradicts where the name came from. Guinness, for example, is one of the best beers you can drink if you're a calorie counter.

Jearlpam0925

HesCalledDyer said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

I like how the new thing is to shit on IPAs because everyone makes one now.

Conversely, I like how everyone thinks IPAs are the end-all, be-all of beer. Like if you can't handle drinking one, you're not a man or some dumb bullshit. I've shit on IPAs for a decade. They're gross.

I have never seen this as a stance; probably just that people like them. If anything it seems that 1) there are too many off them so therefore they're no longer good, backed up by 2) you just don't like them.

Myself, though, I'll take the bitterest, fruitiest, dryest, hops I can get my hands on.

All shapes and sizes to beer for all peeps, but I'll say this on the aging...

I get a kick out of people who think aging beers is a good thing. It's beer, not wine. Beer goes bad. I also don't want my beer to taste like booze. Sure, we can get into the exceptions to these rules, but this is the thing - beer is meant to be drank, not stored in basements. I got some beer (forget the name of it now) as a wedding gift that my cousin told me to drink on my 12th anniversary since that's when this beer supposedly would be at its best. That shit didn't last a week in my house.

Suffice to say, I have a problem.

tempo_n_groove

Jearlpam0925 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

I like how the new thing is to shit on IPAs because everyone makes one now.

Conversely, I like how everyone thinks IPAs are the end-all, be-all of beer. Like if you can't handle drinking one, you're not a man or some dumb bullshit. I've shit on IPAs for a decade. They're gross.

I have never seen this as a stance; probably just that people like them. If anything it seems that 1) there are too many off them so therefore they're no longer good, backed up by 2) you just don't like them.

Myself, though, I'll take the bitterest, fruitiest, dryest, hops I can get my hands on.

All shapes and sizes to beer for all peeps, but I'll say this on the aging...

I get a kick out of people who think aging beers is a good thing. It's beer, not wine. Beer goes bad. I also don't want my beer to taste like booze. Sure, we can get into the exceptions to these rules, but this is the thing - beer is meant to be drank, not stored in basements. I got some beer (forget the name of it now) as a wedding gift that my cousin told me to drink on my 12th anniversary since that's when this beer supposedly would be at its best. That shit didn't last a week in my house.

Suffice to say, I have a problem.

If you can ever suffice the will power to age some beers you'll be pleasantly surprised. Latest one that I did was a Backwoods Bastard side by side. I had two people that weren't beer snobs and had them try this years offering and last years offering and they both chose last years. There is something to be said for aging beers and the flavor that can come from it.

A good BA beer is like a wine in that it still is fermenting when in the bottle unlike an IPA, whiskey or cognac.

I also love a good sour beer, stout and porter. I am not biased. If it's good then it's good.

@mfc2006 give me a list of those IPA's to try. I may have had a bunch of them already, lol.

Sammy Smiths Organic Chocolate stout is a fantastic beer. Please try it!!!

HesCalledDyer

Jearlpam0925 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

I like how the new thing is to shit on IPAs because everyone makes one now.

Conversely, I like how everyone thinks IPAs are the end-all, be-all of beer. Like if you can't handle drinking one, you're not a man or some dumb bullshit. I've shit on IPAs for a decade. They're gross.

I have never seen this as a stance; probably just that people like them. If anything it seems that 1) there are too many off them so therefore they're no longer good, backed up by 2) you just don't like them.

Myself, though, I'll take the bitterest, fruitiest, dryest, hops I can get my hands on.

All shapes and sizes to beer for all peeps, but I'll say this on the aging...

I get a kick out of people who think aging beers is a good thing. It's beer, not wine. Beer goes bad. I also don't want my beer to taste like booze. Sure, we can get into the exceptions to these rules, but this is the thing - beer is meant to be drank, not stored in basements. I got some beer (forget the name of it now) as a wedding gift that my cousin told me to drink on my 12th anniversary since that's when this beer supposedly would be at its best. That shit didn't last a week in my house.

Suffice to say, I have a problem.

Definitely comes down to personal tastes. Almost everyone I know loves IPAs but there are very, very few I can drink. I'm more of a standard pale ale, standard ale, red ale, bock, marzen, porter, weisse, dubble, tripel, & lambic kinda guy.

As for aging, it has to be pretty high ABV in order to age, otherwise it will just go skunk. I have a couple beers I've aged and all but one have aged well. But I've also never gone more than 3-4 years aging. If I plan to age a beer, I try to get at least 3 of the same bottle - one for right away, 1 year age, & 3 year age. I do have one bottle of Goose Island Bourbon Barrel which will be my first 5 year test. The best place to age a beer is in a humidity controlled crisper drawer in the fridge, if your fridge has one.

tempo_n_groove

HesCalledDyer said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

I like how the new thing is to shit on IPAs because everyone makes one now.

Conversely, I like how everyone thinks IPAs are the end-all, be-all of beer. Like if you can't handle drinking one, you're not a man or some dumb bullshit. I've shit on IPAs for a decade. They're gross.

I have never seen this as a stance; probably just that people like them. If anything it seems that 1) there are too many off them so therefore they're no longer good, backed up by 2) you just don't like them.

Myself, though, I'll take the bitterest, fruitiest, dryest, hops I can get my hands on.

All shapes and sizes to beer for all peeps, but I'll say this on the aging...

I get a kick out of people who think aging beers is a good thing. It's beer, not wine. Beer goes bad. I also don't want my beer to taste like booze. Sure, we can get into the exceptions to these rules, but this is the thing - beer is meant to be drank, not stored in basements. I got some beer (forget the name of it now) as a wedding gift that my cousin told me to drink on my 12th anniversary since that's when this beer supposedly would be at its best. That shit didn't last a week in my house.

Suffice to say, I have a problem.

Definitely comes down to personal tastes. Almost everyone I know loves IPAs but there are very, very few I can drink. I'm more of a standard pale ale, standard ale, red ale, bock, marzen, porter, weisse, dubble, tripel, & lambic kinda guy.

As for aging, it has to be pretty high ABV in order to age, otherwise it will just go skunk. I have a couple beers I've aged and all but one have aged well. But I've also never gone more than 3-4 years aging. If I plan to age a beer, I try to get at least 3 of the same bottle - one for right away, 1 year age, & 3 year age. I do have one bottle of Goose Island Bourbon Barrel which will be my first 5 year test. The best place to age a beer is in a humidity controlled crisper drawer in the fridge, if your fridge has one.

I've had the pleasure of drinking aged GI's and man does it make a difference. Early Goose BA's are a little rough. They smooth out after a year so you are in for a treat. I had the 2013 last year. Fantastic.

I've also had the sour sisters (Gillian, Lolita and Juliet) aged for a few years. Amazing too.