Photo Op. ?

know1

ledvedderman wrote:

No one is excusing this. It is really stupid. I could photoshop up a scene like that in 10 minutes and have it look just as real. However, it's even more stupid to start pointing fingers now like this is the straw that will break the camels back.

I think people should be pointing fingers so we can prevent the arrival of the straw that eventually breaks the camels back.

I thought the previous administration was far too liberal with our money so it's not surprise that this one is going to be even worse in my eyes.

WaveCameCrashin

This is another example of this administrations pre 911 mindset. First the memos and then this :shock: It's only a matter of time.

Commy

know1 wrote:

Anyone defending this photo op debacle - from execution to cost - has their head in the sand.

I don't know man.

I think anyone who believes this WAS a photo op has their head in the sand.

norm

Commy wrote:

know1 wrote:

Anyone defending this photo op debacle - from execution to cost - has their head in the sand.

I don't know man.

I think anyone who believes this WAS a photo op has their head in the sand.

not that i disagree, but what was it?

Commy

norm wrote:

Commy wrote:

know1 wrote:

Anyone defending this photo op debacle - from execution to cost - has their head in the sand.

I don't know man.

I think anyone who believes this WAS a photo op has their head in the sand.

not that i disagree, but what was it?

I don't know what it could have been.


maybe a serious breech of security that they don't want to admit to , to government perks...maybe Biden was taking the jet for a cruise? I don't know, just speculation.


But to get a picture?

we have cgi, technology to do this without sending mothers into labor and giving the elderly heart attacks, which apparently happened.

norm

Commy wrote:

Its just sounds ridiculous to me that someone would use air force 1 on a photo op right over ground zero. how stupid do you have to be to authorize something like that?

could have been a serious breech of security that they don't want to admit to , to government perks...maybe Biden was taking the jet for a cruise? who know, like I said, speculation.

yeah but c'mon....this is our federal govt....this is exactly the kind of lame, dumbshit move they'd do.....doesn't matter who's president....bureaucrats are morons...always have been, always will.....i guarantee the guy that that thought of this didn't think for one instant that anyone would have a problem with it....washington dc is like a cocoon.....once in it, the people there think they can do anything and no one will bother them....surely 20 years of bushes and clintons have taught us this

OffHeGoes29

Ah you guys.....government wastes money all the time. When I was AD Air Force, my shop had to come in on a Saturday to catch ten A-10 aircraft that flew up from Davis-Monthan (Tuscon) to Luke (Phoenix) for a pilot pool tournament. There reason was "pilot training" but it was odd that they brought their pool cues. What kills me is that they could have rented a van and drove the 2 hours up. By my weekend isn't that important I guess.

We also had a F-18 land one time for gas, both pilots were flying across the country, partying in all the big cities just for "flight hours". ........I never liked pilots......

WaveCameCrashin

The money dosent bother me as much as the people that had to evacuate from their office buildings and one would think not knowing it was air force 1 but that it was another attack. Go find the clip and look at all the people running around and screaming. If that had been me I would have been livid :x :x

Jeanwah

Commy wrote:

know1 wrote:

Anyone defending this photo op debacle - from execution to cost - has their head in the sand.

I don't know man.

I think anyone who believes this WAS a photo op has their head in the sand.

I agree. There is not enough questioning on the public's part in demanding what this was really about. I don't believe the excuse given by AF1 to the media that this was a photo op, and neither should anyone blindly believe everything the media tells you to believe. Where's the questioning? Why aren't we pushing for what this was really about rather than settling for a stupid excuse that REALLY doesn't make any sense.

I know the gov't likes to waste money, but the lack of human decency to alert the public prior to this incident isn't plain forgetfulness or inconsideration. There's definitely something more to this.

HermanBloom

Imagine if Bush did this? The press would have eviscerated him and this would still be a huge story.

Jeanwah

nathanastin wrote:

Imagine if Bush did this? The press would have eviscerated him and this would still be a huge story.

Um, the Bush administration controlled the press, as does the existing administration... The mainstream media is not a separate entity any more, since journalists do as they're told now, whereas they used to dig for the truth years ago. Get independent journalism in, and it would be a different story.

And if this story gets swept under the rug and never heard from again, then that's more of a red flag. An "oops" one day, and then it's over? Things are working too well for those who don't want the public talking about it and questioning what this could really be about.

TriumphantAngel

Commy wrote:

know1 wrote:

Anyone defending this photo op debacle - from execution to cost - has their head in the sand.

I don't know man.

I think anyone who believes this WAS a photo op has their head in the sand.

I agree with this Commy. It is extremely difficult to believe the story that this was a photo op. If the Bush administration has taught us anything over the last eight years, it should be that we need to question things more. Especially things that just don't make sense. Ask questions. Speak out. Demand answers. Don't just nod and think mmm hmm.

Have we learnt nothing?

JD Sal

nathanastin wrote:

Imagine if Bush did this? The press would have eviscerated him and this would still be a huge story.

Obama didn't do this. He didn't even know about it. Well, at least according to his statements about the incident.

And while I think it's great to question what the media feeds us, why do some folks think this wasn't a photo op? AF1 was flying around the Statue of Liberty for a half hour with a fighter jet escort. Clearly no one hijacked AF1, so rule out terrorism. Beyond that, what could this have been?

pjl44

Jeanwah wrote:

nathanastin wrote:

Imagine if Bush did this? The press would have eviscerated him and this would still be a huge story.

Um, the Bush administration controlled the press, as does the existing administration... The mainstream media is not a separate entity any more, since journalists do as they're told now, whereas they used to dig for the truth years ago. Get independent journalism in, and it would be a different story.

And if this story gets swept under the rug and never heard from again, then that's more of a red flag. An "oops" one day, and then it's over? Things are working too well for those who don't want the public talking about it and questioning what this could really be about.

Lo and behold...

Swine flu! Swine flu! Pandemic! Masks!

Commy

Jeanwah wrote:

Um, the Bush administration controlled the press, as does the existing administration... The mainstream media is not a separate entity any more, since journalists do as they're told now, whereas they used to dig for the truth years ago. Get independent journalism in, and it would be a different story.

And if this story gets swept under the rug and never heard from again, then that's more of a red flag. An "oops" one day, and then it's over? Things are working too well for those who don't want the public talking about it and questioning what this could really be about.

this is right on.