Arlen Spector Switching Parties

ledvedderman

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/28/ ... index.html

I can almost taste that supermajority when Franken gets seated. Coleman will be under a lot of fire now to take that as long as he possibly can.

jmurray

Sen. Spector must have been extremely worried about losing in the republican primary. This seems very surprising to me.

ledvedderman

I think you are right. However, the trend in PA is really leaning blue. Obama won there easily, Bob Casey topped Santorum in 2006, and the Gov. is a Democrat.

blackredyellow

jmurray wrote:

Sen. Spector must have been extremely worried about losing in the republican primary. This seems very surprising to me.

Yeah... a self-preservation move if there ever was one.

I was a PA resident for the first 30 years of my life, and I was always "ok" with Spector... Whatever his motivations were, he seemed to act on his own a lot of times. But this move re-enforces the rule that the number one job of a politician is getting re-elected.

WaveCameCrashin

jmurray wrote:

Sen. Spector must have been extremely worried about losing in the republican primary. This seems very surprising to me.

Im sure he wont be missed by some , Hell he should of done this years ago pro choice for embryonic stem cell research, not even close to a republican or conservative and yes he would have lost in 2010

ledvedderman

prfctlefts wrote:

jmurray wrote:

Sen. Spector must have been extremely worried about losing in the republican primary. This seems very surprising to me.

Im sure he wont be missed by some , Hell he should of done this years ago and yes he would have lost in 2010

He probably would have lost? Why? Because the GOP in PA isn't in line with his beliefs. Why not switch?

WaveCameCrashin

Obama quote" we are thrilled to have you" Well there goes the Neighborhood for republicans. b/c if stewert smalley wins which he will that will give the Dem's the 60 seats they need to pass legislation

jlew24asu

ledvedderman wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/28/specter.party.switch/index.html

I can almost taste that supermajority when Franken gets seated. Coleman will be under a lot of fire now to take that as long as he possibly can.

the term supermajority gives me the creeps. I think its a very dangerous course to be on. and I dont care what party has the majority, I just hate the idea of any one party having ALL the say.

ledvedderman

jlew24asu wrote:

ledvedderman wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/28/specter.party.switch/index.html

I can almost taste that supermajority when Franken gets seated. Coleman will be under a lot of fire now to take that as long as he possibly can.

the term supermajority gives me the creeps. I think its a very dangerous course to be on. and I dont care what party has the majority, I just hate the idea of any one party having ALL the say.

Oh come on Jeff. It's working so well here in Illinois where the Dems control every constitutional office, the Supreme Court, and both chambers of the General Assembly...

jlew24asu

ledvedderman wrote:

jlew24asu wrote:

ledvedderman wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/28/specter.party.switch/index.html

I can almost taste that supermajority when Franken gets seated. Coleman will be under a lot of fire now to take that as long as he possibly can.

the term supermajority gives me the creeps. I think its a very dangerous course to be on. and I dont care what party has the majority, I just hate the idea of any one party having ALL the say.

Oh come on Jeff. It's working so well here in Illinois where the Dems control every constitutional office, the Supreme Court, and both chambers of the General Assembly...

I'm just waiting for the mandatory I Love Obama Tee Shirt Friday laws to be passed. 10 public lashings for non compliance!

ledvedderman

It's stuck in committee right now, but don't worry---it will get passed.

WaveCameCrashin

jlew24asu wrote:

ledvedderman wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/28/specter.party.switch/index.html

I can almost taste that supermajority when Franken gets seated. Coleman will be under a lot of fire now to take that as long as he possibly can.

the term supermajority gives me the creeps. I think its a very dangerous course to be on. and I dont care what party has the majority, I just hate the idea of any one party having ALL the say.

+1 not to mention a left wing media that will support the dems no matter what the case may be.

ledvedderman

prfctlefts wrote:

jlew24asu wrote:

ledvedderman wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/28/specter.party.switch/index.html

I can almost taste that supermajority when Franken gets seated. Coleman will be under a lot of fire now to take that as long as he possibly can.

the term supermajority gives me the creeps. I think its a very dangerous course to be on. and I dont care what party has the majority, I just hate the idea of any one party having ALL the say.

+1 not to mention a left wing media that will support the dems no matter what the case may be.

Again with the media? I've been on a lot of campaigns in my day, and the true sign that a ship is sinking is when the "blame the media" card is being played.

WaveCameCrashin

Im not blaming the media for anything but All the major players except Fox are left or way left of center. Msnbc was and still is Obama Hdqrtrs. Immelt and Zucker Ruined NBC just look at their ratings and Immelt has Ruined GE just look at It's stock how it's now below $ 10 a share. GE which owns NBC

HermanBloom

prfctlefts wrote:

Im not blaming the media for anything but All the major players except Fox are left or way left of center. Msnbc was and still is Obama Hdqrtrs. Immelt and Zucker Ruined NBC just look at their ratings and Immelt has Ruined GE just look at It's stock how it's now below $ 10 a share. GE which owns NBC

Bingo

Specter is a true fraud; only switch because there was no way he could make it out of the GOP primary.

This country is getting scarier by the day; a true totalatarian regime is coming, and don't give me that crap that the Repubs had it for 6 years. They never did anything as scary and sweeping as the Obama take over of our lives.

blackredyellow

nathanastin wrote:

This country is getting scarier by the day; a true totalatarian regime is coming, and don't give me that crap that the Repubs had it for 6 years. They never did anything as scary and sweeping as the Obama take over of our lives.

Dramatic much? The repubs started an unnecessary war, and increased the size and scope of the government exponentially... Obama is giving them a shot on the spending side, but to say that the republicans didn't do things as scary and sweeping is a tad misleading don't ya think?

I just wonder if in 4-8 years, the "destroying our country" crowd on the right will admit that they were wrong, or be silent like the "destroying our country" crowd on the left was after Bush left office. Being the boy who cried wolf is a pretty popular gig in the political hackery business.

ledvedderman

nathanastin wrote:

prfctlefts wrote:

Im not blaming the media for anything but All the major players except Fox are left or way left of center. Msnbc was and still is Obama Hdqrtrs. Immelt and Zucker Ruined NBC just look at their ratings and Immelt has Ruined GE just look at It's stock how it's now below $ 10 a share. GE which owns NBC

Bingo

Specter is a true fraud; only switch because there was no way he could make it out of the GOP primary.

This country is getting scarier by the day; a true totalatarian regime is coming, and don't give me that crap that the Repubs had it for 6 years. They never did anything as scary and sweeping as the Obama take over of our lives.

Why weren't you crying "totalatarian regime" when Bush was wiping his ass with the constitution? What in these 100 days makes you even think that such a drastic change is sweeping since Obama took over.

soulsinging

prfctlefts wrote:

jmurray wrote:

Sen. Spector must have been extremely worried about losing in the republican primary. This seems very surprising to me.

Im sure he wont be missed by some , Hell he should of done this years ago pro choice for embryonic stem cell research, not even close to a republican or conservative and yes he would have lost in 2010

This is why the Republican party is slipping further into irrelevance every day. When it's a bunch of bullshit values judgment calls that defines your party, you're fucked. Kudos to PA for realizing these snake-oil politicians have been exploiting them with paranoia about guns and religion for years so that they can fuck them in the ass economically.

soulsinging

nathanastin wrote:

prfctlefts wrote:

Im not blaming the media for anything but All the major players except Fox are left or way left of center. Msnbc was and still is Obama Hdqrtrs. Immelt and Zucker Ruined NBC just look at their ratings and Immelt has Ruined GE just look at It's stock how it's now below $ 10 a share. GE which owns NBC

Bingo

Specter is a true fraud; only switch because there was no way he could make it out of the GOP primary.

This country is getting scarier by the day; a true totalatarian regime is coming, and don't give me that crap that the Repubs had it for 6 years. They never did anything as scary and sweeping as the Obama take over of our lives.

What take over is that? Cos I was pretty spooked by the "with us (aka hard line Christian fundamentalists) or with terrorists", the Patriot Act, wire-tapping, torture, pre-emptive war, etc... I can't think of anything Obama has done to take over my life.

jlew24asu

how many other times in history has this supermajority taken place?

does anyone see the danger in this?

this is not a left or right issue with me at all.

keeponrockin

jlew24asu wrote:

ledvedderman wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/28/specter.party.switch/index.html

I can almost taste that supermajority when Franken gets seated. Coleman will be under a lot of fire now to take that as long as he possibly can.

the term supermajority gives me the creeps. I think its a very dangerous course to be on. and I dont care what party has the majority, I just hate the idea of any one party having ALL the say.

I tend to agree. Thats why I like it when we have minority governments in Canada, then one party NEEDS to work with other parties to even pass something.