Paying your debts back to people that you owe

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,823
    covered in bliss wrote:
    patrickredeyes wrote:
    CJMST3K wrote:
    I think you need to "out" them.


    I don't want to have to do that. I hope not to.

    It sucks that you got shafted but posting their name here would be in poor taste. Would it help to get your money back? Probably not. It would just create a messier situation and you don't seem like the type of person that would get a lot of personal satisfaction from dragging someone else through the mud.
    Flip side of that is , the unamed person being outed would be shown as the untrustworthy scumbag they appear to be.
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  • covered in bliss
    covered in bliss chi-caw-go Posts: 1,332
    mickeyrat wrote:
    Flip side of that is , the unamed person being outed would be shown as the untrustworthy scumbag they appear to be.

    Shown to whom? A bunch of strangers on an internet message board?

    I don't think the OP needs to 'protect' anyone... that's a lesson people need to learn on their own.

    I just saw your post about 3 years sober! Congrats! You, as an addict, should know that people have issues. A person that can't repay a debt obviously has some, too... there's probably stuff going on that no one knows about... it's really no one else's business. It's between Patrick and someone, it shouldn't be put out there for everyone else to see.
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,956
    There should be a thread here...

    where we "OUT" everyone on this board who is so full of shit that it is coming out of their fucking ears......


    it would be the most popular thread ever!!!!!!!

    hehehehehe................
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  • patrickredeyes
    patrickredeyes Posts: 8,834
    mickeyrat wrote:
    Flip side of that is , the unamed person being outed would be shown as the untrustworthy scumbag they appear to be.[/quote]


    I wouldn't call this person a scumbag cause they are not. But I have lost all respect for this person. I posted this thread cause I had to vent but I feel somewhat bad now. Please don't call him or her names. I guess I feel like maybe this was wrong to do. But after yesterday and seeing that they bought tickets for Ed shows I blew up inside.
  • patrickredeyes
    patrickredeyes Posts: 8,834
    covered in bliss wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    Flip side of that is , the unamed person being outed would be shown as the untrustworthy scumbag they appear to be.

    Shown to whom? A bunch of strangers on an internet message board?

    I don't think the OP needs to 'protect' anyone... that's a lesson people need to learn on their own.

    I just saw your post about 3 years sober! Congrats! You, as an addict, should know that people have issues. A person that can't repay a debt obviously has some, too... there's probably stuff going on that no one knows about... it's really no one else's business. It's between Patrick and someone, it shouldn't be put out there for everyone else to see.


    Wait are you saying I had no right to post this info?????


    Btw I don't consider you all strangers.
  • covered in bliss
    covered in bliss chi-caw-go Posts: 1,332
    patrickredeyes wrote:
    Wait are you saying I had no right to post this info?????
    not at all. If you had named names, yes. once you put that info out there, you can't take it back.
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    patrick---i just hope that the person that owes you money sees this thread & gets in touch. what a crappy thing to do.
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  • Cinnamon Girl
    Cinnamon Girl Posts: 1,854
    There's nothing wrong with venting on here and I give you credit for not calling the person out.
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  • chiquimonkey
    chiquimonkey Posts: 9,337
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    patrickredeyes wrote:
    I was torn early today if I should have made this thread. Cause I don't like to do this stuff in public. I was venting out but it also didn't help seeing all the Ed threads and seeing the person's name in some of them. I do feel I was taken and as the saying goes. Cheat me once shame on you. Cheat me twice shame on me. Trust me I have learned my lesson.
    no no no.....its....

    cheat me once?.....shame on you...
    cheat me twice?....shame on me....

    try to cheat me a 3rd time????....and thats why the baseball bat was invented.....hehehehehehehehehe
    :lol: hell yeah!

    patrick, that sucks someone screwed you over like that! i could never see PJ being more important than someone's friendship, or being important enough to screw someone over. no concert is worth that. the fact some people view it that way is disturbing.

    *edit* and maybe someday i'll learn to do bold right lol
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Don't loan people money. Just give it to them if you have a mind to and do not expect anything in return. If they pay you back, it's a bonus.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,956
    know1 wrote:
    Don't loan people money. Just give it to them if you have a mind to and do not expect anything in return. If they pay you back, it's a bonus.
    i completely totally 100% disagree with your statement....


    having someone.....supposedly an adult....pay back money that he or she has borrowed....

    shouldnt have to be looked at as a "bonus".............
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  • milarso
    milarso Posts: 1,280
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    Don't loan people money. Just give it to them if you have a mind to and do not expect anything in return. If they pay you back, it's a bonus.
    i completely totally 100% disagree with your statement....


    having someone.....supposedly an adult....pay back money that he or she has borrowed....

    shouldnt have to be looked at as a "bonus".............

    I think what know1 is getting at is that shouldn't loan out money unless you are completely prepared to never see it again.
    There are too many people out there, friends or not, that will take advantage when it comes to money. If you have it in your mind to help someone out and loan them some money, you should go into it with the mindset that you are giving them a gift. That way, when you never see it again, you won't be disappointed.
    On the other hand, if you feel you are going to be disappointed when they don't pay you back, you should think twice about loaning it out.
    Not trying to preach to anyone, just know from experience what the OP is going through.
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  • JaneNY
    JaneNY Posts: 4,438
    Some boards have a 'good trader' thread and a 'bad trader' thread, where people can post feedback of transactions and trades. I see no problem with that. Its no different than having feedback on ebay.
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  • PRL1JAM
    PRL1JAM Posts: 787
    CJMST3K wrote:
    I think you need to "out" them.

    I agree. Maybe it will prevent them from trying to take advantage of someone in the future, knowing now that some people are on to them.
  • patrickredeyes
    patrickredeyes Posts: 8,834
    I will never ''out them'' and won't. I should have never made this thread. I sometimes do things and not think first. I'm only human and we make mistakes.

    Peace
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,823
    milarso wrote:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    Don't loan people money. Just give it to them if you have a mind to and do not expect anything in return. If they pay you back, it's a bonus.
    i completely totally 100% disagree with your statement....


    having someone.....supposedly an adult....pay back money that he or she has borrowed....

    shouldnt have to be looked at as a "bonus".............

    I think what know1 is getting at is that shouldn't loan out money unless you are completely prepared to never see it again.
    There are too many people out there, friends or not, that will take advantage when it comes to money. If you have it in your mind to help someone out and loan them some money, you should go into it with the mindset that you are giving them a gift. That way, when you never see it again, you won't be disappointed.
    On the other hand, if you feel you are going to be disappointed when they don't pay you back, you should think twice about loaning it out.
    Not trying to preach to anyone, just know from experience what the OP is going through.
    But what the Op was refering wasn't really a "loan" perse. More of a long drawn out business transaction. The other party has NOT fulfilled their part of the contract , and has since made excuses(real or otherwise) and recently purchased tix to EV. Which is what started it in the first place.
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  • milarso
    milarso Posts: 1,280
    mickeyrat wrote:
    But what the Op was refering wasn't really a "loan" perse. More of a long drawn out business transaction. The other party has NOT fulfilled their part of the contract , and has since made excuses(real or otherwise) and recently purchased tix to EV. Which is what started it in the first place.

    I hear ya. I think it's deplorable to borrow money and not pay it back.
    But regardless of what you call it, a loan or otherwise, when you give someone money on the good faith that they are going to pay it back, eventually you're going to get burned.
    "The dude abides. I don't know about you, but I take comfort in that. It's good knowin' he's out there. The Dude. Takin' her easy for all us sinners."
  • ZiggyStar
    ZiggyStar Posts: 14,328
    patrickredeyes wrote:
    I will never ''out them'' and won't. I should have never made this thread. I sometimes do things and not think first. I'm only human and we make mistakes.

    Peace

    Noooo Patrick....you SHOULD out them and give the board some excitement for a while! But PM me first so I'm here when you do it! ;)
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    milarso wrote:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    Don't loan people money. Just give it to them if you have a mind to and do not expect anything in return. If they pay you back, it's a bonus.
    i completely totally 100% disagree with your statement....


    having someone.....supposedly an adult....pay back money that he or she has borrowed....

    shouldnt have to be looked at as a "bonus".............

    I think what know1 is getting at is that shouldn't loan out money unless you are completely prepared to never see it again.
    There are too many people out there, friends or not, that will take advantage when it comes to money. If you have it in your mind to help someone out and loan them some money, you should go into it with the mindset that you are giving them a gift. That way, when you never see it again, you won't be disappointed.
    On the other hand, if you feel you are going to be disappointed when they don't pay you back, you should think twice about loaning it out.
    Not trying to preach to anyone, just know from experience what the OP is going through.

    Exactly. I was discussing the mindset of the lender at the time the money is given. I have adopted the principle that I won't loan any money to anyone. I just give it to them if I want to and if they pay me back, that is their choice.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • vduboise
    vduboise Posts: 1,937
    know1 wrote:

    Exactly. I was discussing the mindset of the lender at the time the money is given. I have adopted the principle that I won't loan any money to anyone. I just give it to them if I want to and if they pay me back, that is their choice.

    I totally agree. I no longer "lend" money, but I give it if I have it- I hope to get it back, but I'm a realist and know that some people won't. I had a friend I loaned a lot of money to, 3 years later nothing- and I no longer can stand looking at her. So from now on, I "give" no more than $100- that was a true lesson learned.

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