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Paying your debts back to people that you owe

patrickredeyespatrickredeyes Posts: 8,834
edited April 2009 in All Encompassing Trip
I find my blood boiling today cause of people and their actions. They bought their Ed tickets threw 10c or Ticketmaster today and are all set for June. So I guess that was more important then paying back the people you still owe from last year? What gives you that right to do that? I have waited over a year and heard nothing but excuses. I understand that times have been tough. But I guess not that tough cause your still able to buy tickets and concert cds. Or maybe you once again had somebody else buy them for you. I have been silent about it and even forget about it over this past year. There were times when I really could have used that money but said ok whenever you can. But over the past few days it has really got to me. How can people be so selfish and not fucking care? At the time I even said just pay me back for one show not both and were cool. I mean if somebody told me that I would be so amazed and happy. And as soon as I could I would find a way and pay them right back for doing that for me. But instead you treated it like it was nothing and took advantage of me. I will never see you as the same person again. You do what's best for you and leave the rest of us in limbo. I'm younger and I have more sense then you have. Have a great time at the show or shows. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,484
    wow--that's pretty messed up, man. hope they finally pay you back.
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  • PJGARDENPJGARDEN Posts: 1,484
    Sorry to hear about that. I could never do that to someone but I guess some people just don't have a conscience :(
  • wolfbearwolfbear Posts: 3,965
    I don't blame you for being irate, I would be too. To not pay you back is bad enough but to see them spending money is just terrible. There can be no excuse for that at all. :evil: :roll: I don't know how they live with themselves, I know I couldn't. :) People like that will get what's due them in the end, at least I hope so. :lol:
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    I think you need to "out" them.
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    CJMST3K wrote:
    I think you need to "out" them.


    and further, I would either demand their tickets from them, or demand payment from them. Both are reasonable - but you have every right to be 100% pissed off now. If they still owe you money, and said they're having "tough times" to play off your sympathy to not pay you, then their recent purchases have confirmed they were lying to you. I'd say PAYMENT IS DUE. :twisted:
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  • patrickredeyespatrickredeyes Posts: 8,834
    CJMST3K wrote:
    I think you need to "out" them.


    I don't want to have to do that. I hope not to.
  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    patrickredeyes wrote:
    CJMST3K wrote:
    I think you need to "out" them.


    I don't want to have to do that. I hope not to.

    I'd PMing them with a link to this thread... so they know you need immediate restitution.
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  • megatronmegatron Posts: 3,420
    i just bought 2 atl show tix cause my friend said yea man im in so get both shows
    i replied i cant really afford all that on my card right now but he insisted to pay me friday
    well he just bailed on me when i asked for money friday..said cant afford to pay me yet
    bank account is seeing red again

    told him to fuck off
    im goin solo..just cant go out for a couple weeks.
    o well
  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,773
    patrickredeyes wrote:
    I find my blood boiling today cause of people and their actions. They bought their Ed tickets threw 10c or Ticketmaster today and are all set for June. So I guess that was more important then paying back the people you still owe from last year? What gives you that right to do that? I have waited over a year and heard nothing but excuses. I understand that times have been tough. But I guess not that tough cause your still able to buy tickets and concert cds. Or maybe you once again had somebody else buy them for you. I have been silent about it and even forget about it over this past year. There were times when I really could have used that money but said ok whenever you can. But over the past few days it has really got to me. How can people be so selfish and not fucking care? At the time I even said just pay me back for one show not both and were cool. I mean if somebody told me that I would be so amazed and happy. And as soon as I could I would find a way and pay them right back for doing that for me. But instead you treated it like it was nothing and took advantage of me. I will never see you as the same person again. You do what's best for you and leave the rest of us in limbo. I'm younger and I have more sense then you have. Have a great time at the show or shows. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

    well Patrick....

    as you and I have discussed before.....

    there are people here who portray themselves as fucking angels.....who will lie, cheat, steal ......and do whatever the fuck they can to get their precious pearl jam tickets....

    I dont know the circumstances involving your specific situation......but nobody likes to be treated like an asshole.....

    but you and I have both discussed this situation before.....
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    patrickredeyes wrote:
    CJMST3K wrote:
    I think you need to "out" them.


    I don't want to have to do that. I hope not to.


    well you might have to....before other people are ripped off


    so much for "jamily" :roll:
  • Cinnamon GirlCinnamon Girl Posts: 1,854
    I just don't understand that. I CANNOT owe money. I hate debt no matter whether its credit or borrowed funds from family. It keeps me up at night.

    I hope it works out for you, and that this person does the right thing.
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  • justamjustam Posts: 21,412
    patrickredeyes wrote:
    CJMST3K wrote:
    I think you need to "out" them.


    I don't want to have to do that. I hope not to.

    Yet, maybe it'd be informative to more people than just you and the party that owes you money?

    Perhaps you'll even find out that they've done this kind of thing to other people here?

    It seems to me that you might be helping yourself AND protecting other people as well.
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  • QuarterToTenQuarterToTen Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 3,642
    some people seem to have a very short term memory
    when it comes to other's generosity. an unfortunate trait in human beings.

    i really hope things get resolved.
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  • patrickredeyespatrickredeyes Posts: 8,834
    I was torn early today if I should have made this thread. Cause I don't like to do this stuff in public. I was venting out but it also didn't help seeing all the Ed threads and seeing the person's name in some of them. I do feel I was taken and as the saying goes. Cheat me once shame on you. Cheat me twice shame on me. Trust me I have learned my lesson.
  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,773
    patrickredeyes wrote:
    I was torn early today if I should have made this thread. Cause I don't like to do this stuff in public. I was venting out but it also didn't help seeing all the Ed threads and seeing the person's name in some of them. I do feel I was taken and as the saying goes. Cheat me once shame on you. Cheat me twice shame on me. Trust me I have learned my lesson.
    no no no.....its....

    cheat me once?.....shame on you...
    cheat me twice?....shame on me....

    try to cheat me a 3rd time????....and thats why the baseball bat was invented.....hehehehehehehehehe
    Take me piece by piece.....
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  • patrickredeyespatrickredeyes Posts: 8,834
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    patrickredeyes wrote:
    I was torn early today if I should have made this thread. Cause I don't like to do this stuff in public. I was venting out but it also didn't help seeing all the Ed threads and seeing the person's name in some of them. I do feel I was taken and as the saying goes. Cheat me once shame on you. Cheat me twice shame on me. Trust me I have learned my lesson.
    no no no.....its....

    cheat me once?.....shame on you...
    cheat me twice?....shame on me....

    try to cheat me a 3rd time????....and thats why the baseball bat was invented.....hehehehehehehehehe


    hahahaha :D
  • CHANGEinWAVESCHANGEinWAVES Posts: 10,169
    edited April 2009
    I owe Thorns2010 money!!!!

    I promise it'll be on its way, just need your address :)

    Thanks again!! :D
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  • patrickredeyespatrickredeyes Posts: 8,834
    patrickredeyes wrote:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    patrickredeyes wrote:
    I was torn early today if I should have made this thread. Cause I don't like to do this stuff in public. I was venting out but it also didn't help seeing all the Ed threads and seeing the person's name in some of them. I do feel I was taken and as the saying goes. Cheat me once shame on you. Cheat me twice shame on me. Trust me I have learned my lesson.
    no no no.....its....

    cheat me once?.....shame on you...
    cheat me twice?....shame on me....

    try to cheat me a 3rd time????....and thats why the baseball bat was invented.....hehehehehehehehehe


    hahahaha :D

    Double post my bad. lol
  • rockpantsrockpants BC Posts: 838
    A friend of mine is notorious for saying he'll pay me back, and of course, never does. I'm slowly weaning myself to say "I can't". The big stuff (concert tickets) has become easy (especially since I moved out and have more bills, and since my dog has required a lot of medical care in the last 2-3 years), but I'm having a hard time with saying no to the smaller stuff (a couple of beers here, some pizza-topping condiments there). It may only be $5-$10 at a time, but it adds up. If I bring it up, it's certain to be a conflict that I'm not sure how to handle. When I picture it in my head, I say all the right things, but I know in person/over the phone, my words will get caught in my throat and it'll just get worse.

    It's one of the reasons why I go to concerts alone now. I'm like Cinnamon Girl, I feel bad if I owe money to the credit card company, let alone my friends or family.
  • covered in blisscovered in bliss chi-caw-go Posts: 1,332
    patrickredeyes wrote:
    CJMST3K wrote:
    I think you need to "out" them.


    I don't want to have to do that. I hope not to.

    It sucks that you got shafted but posting their name here would be in poor taste. Would it help to get your money back? Probably not. It would just create a messier situation and you don't seem like the type of person that would get a lot of personal satisfaction from dragging someone else through the mud.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,637
    covered in bliss wrote:
    patrickredeyes wrote:
    CJMST3K wrote:
    I think you need to "out" them.


    I don't want to have to do that. I hope not to.

    It sucks that you got shafted but posting their name here would be in poor taste. Would it help to get your money back? Probably not. It would just create a messier situation and you don't seem like the type of person that would get a lot of personal satisfaction from dragging someone else through the mud.
    Flip side of that is , the unamed person being outed would be shown as the untrustworthy scumbag they appear to be.
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  • covered in blisscovered in bliss chi-caw-go Posts: 1,332
    mickeyrat wrote:
    Flip side of that is , the unamed person being outed would be shown as the untrustworthy scumbag they appear to be.

    Shown to whom? A bunch of strangers on an internet message board?

    I don't think the OP needs to 'protect' anyone... that's a lesson people need to learn on their own.

    I just saw your post about 3 years sober! Congrats! You, as an addict, should know that people have issues. A person that can't repay a debt obviously has some, too... there's probably stuff going on that no one knows about... it's really no one else's business. It's between Patrick and someone, it shouldn't be put out there for everyone else to see.
  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,773
    There should be a thread here...

    where we "OUT" everyone on this board who is so full of shit that it is coming out of their fucking ears......


    it would be the most popular thread ever!!!!!!!

    hehehehehe................
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  • patrickredeyespatrickredeyes Posts: 8,834
    mickeyrat wrote:
    Flip side of that is , the unamed person being outed would be shown as the untrustworthy scumbag they appear to be.[/quote]


    I wouldn't call this person a scumbag cause they are not. But I have lost all respect for this person. I posted this thread cause I had to vent but I feel somewhat bad now. Please don't call him or her names. I guess I feel like maybe this was wrong to do. But after yesterday and seeing that they bought tickets for Ed shows I blew up inside.
  • patrickredeyespatrickredeyes Posts: 8,834
    covered in bliss wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    Flip side of that is , the unamed person being outed would be shown as the untrustworthy scumbag they appear to be.

    Shown to whom? A bunch of strangers on an internet message board?

    I don't think the OP needs to 'protect' anyone... that's a lesson people need to learn on their own.

    I just saw your post about 3 years sober! Congrats! You, as an addict, should know that people have issues. A person that can't repay a debt obviously has some, too... there's probably stuff going on that no one knows about... it's really no one else's business. It's between Patrick and someone, it shouldn't be put out there for everyone else to see.


    Wait are you saying I had no right to post this info?????


    Btw I don't consider you all strangers.
  • covered in blisscovered in bliss chi-caw-go Posts: 1,332
    patrickredeyes wrote:
    Wait are you saying I had no right to post this info?????
    not at all. If you had named names, yes. once you put that info out there, you can't take it back.
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,484
    patrick---i just hope that the person that owes you money sees this thread & gets in touch. what a crappy thing to do.
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  • Cinnamon GirlCinnamon Girl Posts: 1,854
    There's nothing wrong with venting on here and I give you credit for not calling the person out.
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  • chiquimonkeychiquimonkey Posts: 9,337
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    patrickredeyes wrote:
    I was torn early today if I should have made this thread. Cause I don't like to do this stuff in public. I was venting out but it also didn't help seeing all the Ed threads and seeing the person's name in some of them. I do feel I was taken and as the saying goes. Cheat me once shame on you. Cheat me twice shame on me. Trust me I have learned my lesson.
    no no no.....its....

    cheat me once?.....shame on you...
    cheat me twice?....shame on me....

    try to cheat me a 3rd time????....and thats why the baseball bat was invented.....hehehehehehehehehe
    :lol: hell yeah!

    patrick, that sucks someone screwed you over like that! i could never see PJ being more important than someone's friendship, or being important enough to screw someone over. no concert is worth that. the fact some people view it that way is disturbing.

    *edit* and maybe someday i'll learn to do bold right lol
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Don't loan people money. Just give it to them if you have a mind to and do not expect anything in return. If they pay you back, it's a bonus.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
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