RE: EV tixs. Cost of touring

NewJPage

saw my morning jacket a few months back at the chicago theatre, which is a comparable sized venue to what ed is playing. $39. and they have a lot more stuff to haul around and people working for them, not to mention that they are a band with 6 people in it. somehow, they are surviving...

PJFAN_seattle

people need to stop making excuses for the prices
Eddies aware of them, He could of changed it if he wanted too.

If you don't like it (which you shouldn't) don't get tickets. simple as that.

mickeyrat

PJ_kidd wrote:

people need to stop making excuses for the prices
Eddies aware of them, He could of changed it if he wanted too.

If you don't like it (which you shouldn't) don't get tickets. simple as that.

And miss seeing GOD?!?!?! He walks on water and everything. :shock:

keeponrockin

PJ_kidd wrote:

people need to stop making excuses for the prices
Eddies aware of them, He could of changed it if he wanted too.

If you don't like it (which you shouldn't) don't get tickets. simple as that.

I don't LIKE the prices, but I don't think they're too high. I saw him in Montreal last year, and the concert was AMAZING, I felt I got my money's worth, so, I'm going again.

I'm a big supporter of smaller shows (Broken Social Scene, Metric, etc..) and they keep prices low (under $30) but Eddie IS a household name, and can charge these prices.

Lets say you had a job, and you could do that job for $30 an hour (just using a small example) or $80 an hour. What would you choose?

I probably wouldn't pay $120 for an Eddie ticket, but I wouldn't be angry, he just wouldn't get my money, plain and simple.

EDIT: I looked over a bunch of ticket stubs I have, the average of all those (about 25 shows, I didn't include festivals and what not) was $62... This has all been within the last 5 years. The most expensive being Springsteen, Roger Waters, and Clapton (at $120) and the least expensive being a Metric show I saw last week ($10). So Eddie is more expensive than average. Having said that, he puts on a better show than average. Is it the best value for the money? No. But IMO, he's worth what he's charging.

DewieCox

surforia wrote:

Edit: 100K could be correct, come to think of it... check this link out - EV and PJ aren't on there, but interesting nonetheless... Bob Dylan is 100K to book.. U2 - 3 Million!

http://prettypolly.com/musicframeset.html

I think that is more along the lines of what they make from a standard gig. I remember seeing those numbers in an issue of Blender a few years back.


If Ed makes it a habit to do these solo tours pretty regularly, the price is too steep. I went and seen Tool in a comparable venue, last tour and it was around $60. Their show is 100x more complex, and I'm sure they are hauling around alot more people than Ed.

Get_Right

BLACK EYED PEAS BIG $$$
DAUGHTRY 150-200K
FOO FIGHTERS 200K+
GREEN DAY BIG $$$
JOHN MAYER 150-200K

GUARANTEED PJ is at least 200k for arenas, probably close to 500K for a festival-seriously

DewieCox

Get_Right wrote:

BLACK EYED PEAS BIG $$$
DAUGHTRY 150-200K
FOO FIGHTERS 200K+
GREEN DAY BIG $$$
JOHN MAYER 150-200K

GUARANTEED PJ is at least 200k for arenas, probably close to $1 million for a festival-seriously

What are these numbers for though? When bands tour, don't they actually "rent" out the arena?

Who hires PJ to tour and support their album?

PJFAN_seattle

keeponrockin wrote:

PJ_kidd wrote:

people need to stop making excuses for the prices
Eddies aware of them, He could of changed it if he wanted too.

If you don't like it (which you shouldn't) don't get tickets. simple as that.

I don't LIKE the prices, but I don't think they're too high. I saw him in Montreal last year, and the concert was AMAZING, I felt I got my money's worth, so, I'm going again.

I'm a big supporter of smaller shows (Broken Social Scene, Metric, etc..) and they keep prices low (under $30) but Eddie IS a household name, and can charge these prices.

Lets say you had a job, and you could do that job for $30 an hour (just using a small example) or $80 an hour. What would you choose?

I probably wouldn't pay $120 for an Eddie ticket, but I wouldn't be angry, he just wouldn't get my money, plain and simple.

EDIT: I looked over a bunch of ticket stubs I have, the average of all those (about 25 shows, I didn't include festivals and what not) was $62... This has all been within the last 5 years. The most expensive being Springsteen, Roger Waters, and Clapton (at $120) and the least expensive being a Metric show I saw last week ($10). So Eddie is more expensive than average. Having said that, he puts on a better show than average. Is it the best value for the money? No. But IMO, he's worth what he's charging.

haha dude I'm sure the shows are amazing, from what I can see on youtube atleast.

If Eddie does end up playing a show in Seattle (which he wont), I probably will go
I did a buncha work for my parents last night, made some ca$h and am working at my dads shop this saturday to make ca$h and im going to save up for future EV/Pearl Jam shows with the ca$h I make.
I just wish he'd lower it but whatever.

I wasn't saying his shows aren't worth it I just was saying people should stop making excuses on why its so expensive and if they don't like it don't go stop complaining about it.

Anyone know how much the upcoming Pearl Jam tour will cost? I want to be prepared.

Get_Right

DewieCox wrote:

Get_Right wrote:

BLACK EYED PEAS BIG $$$
DAUGHTRY 150-200K
FOO FIGHTERS 200K+
GREEN DAY BIG $$$
JOHN MAYER 150-200K

GUARANTEED PJ is at least 200k for arenas, probably close to $1 million for a festival-seriously

What are these numbers for though? When bands tour, don't they actually "rent" out the arena?

Who hires PJ to tour and support their album?

I actually lowered my price for the festival
I heard from someone in the industry that they got $1 million for lolla in 07

it varies, but as I understand it the promoter books the band and rents the arena
there are booking agents that set up entire tours
there are tour managers and band managers that work with the local promoters to organize the shows

PJ tells their manager to book a tour
the manager, and or booking agent gets to work

PJFAN_seattle

mickeyrat wrote:

PJ_kidd wrote:

people need to stop making excuses for the prices
Eddies aware of them, He could of changed it if he wanted too.

If you don't like it (which you shouldn't) don't get tickets. simple as that.

And miss seeing GOD?!?!?! He walks on water and everything. :shock:

Don't forget the turning water into wine part.

Its the reason he always has so much wine at concerts

SB51696

My friend, before you say that an act gets 100% of merch, here is what really happens

Before Expenses, the venue gets:

30% (avg)
CC Fees (2.5%) avg
staffing (sometimes comes with the package, sometimes doesnt, if not, for a 2k seat venue you are looking at $2k)
and t-shirt security, prob 2k/show for EV solo sized gig

Then there is the cost of shipping. Bands do not travel with as much merch as you think, a lot of it is "drop shipped" (always do Fed-Ex on this, UPS is not reliable for the one day you might be in town!), depending where the merch is being sent to and from, a box of 72 shirts can cost 28-80 bucks.

Then the cost, I have noticed a lot of PJ merch is American Apparel (or similar) or organic. They are atleast paying 7-9 bucks a shirt before printing and the artist(s) fees.

Now I do agree that merch is a very profitable entity for a band ( I used to be a merch manager for a national touring act), but its not as profitable as many people perceive it.

KDH12 wrote:

Fact...

Bands make way more of Merchandise then they do off tickets.

Ever wonder why t-shirt cost $5 and they sell it $35, and they sell thousands of them. Poster cost about $3, I would guess, and they sell them for $35.

And that money goes to the band, not shared with venue or promoter, they pay the artist a bit, have touring merch manger and then the people working the stands are often locals, working for a few bucks a free to shirt and ticket to the show.

hailhailCW

just have to trust that they are doing the best they can. the $160+ price for the pairs hurts a little, but hey, thats why we make and save money to begin with, cuz its worth it. If people are that worried about the cost, dont go out for a night or two, problem balanced.

decides2dream

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

so what you are saying is....

Eddie clears about $122.50 a show????

hehehehe...........

i think a smaller tour simply means smaller profits period. sure, if you're hitting up 30 cities, doing 45 shows you're going to make more $$$, even if charging less per ticket. whether you do 12 shows or 24, you still have to haul all your equipment and crew.....and that has built in costs. obviously, overall...it costs less to tour less and tour with less........but the more you tour, the more you ultimately make. thus, smaller tour, smaller venues, smaller profit margins. to me, that easily equates higher ticket prices. basic economics in my mind. honestly tho, i don't need to analyze the whole thing. :P to ME, $81 to see ed solo, in a very small venue = a-ok. keep prices under $100 a ticket, whether ed or pj (only pay more for charity gigs) and i am there.