why even have an EV solo tour?

PJ Fan est. 1990PJ Fan est. 1990 Posts: 1,788
edited April 2009 in The Porch
this question has interested me for quite some time...


why does Ed need to go on a solo tour?...couldn't Pearl Jam play a few Ed solo songs at Pearl Jam concerts?

they already do No War, and ed often plays Betterman and other Pearl Jam songs at his solo shows and appearances.

so why not play EV songs at PJ concerts? instead of having Ed do solo tours?
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  • Jeremys SpokenJeremys Spoken Posts: 7,578
    Maybe because Ed likes doing solo shows?
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  • PJStatTrackerPJStatTracker Posts: 2,400
    it is a completely different vibe...i really hope the Ed songs dont start bleeding into the PJ set...and I hope for all our sakes he has retired "No War" with the change in administration...
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  • LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    The first 2 EV solo tours were to support "Into the Wild" but I'm not too sure what this "third leg" is for but I'm complaining. ;)
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  • wnh1977wnh1977 Iowa Posts: 639
    Why an EV solo tour? Well, I'm thinking they can choose to do whatever the hell they want to do at this point.

    I also hope Ed's solo stuff doesn't creep into Pearl Jam shows. I'm fine with his solo take on Pearl Jam songs. But again, 18 years and counting... they can do what they want. We don't have to go.
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  • well i'm not complaining...i just think that it would be easier on our pockets, since all 3 solo tours have happened right after, or right before, a PJ tour...

    i'm not going to this solo tour, nor did i go on the others, why? cause i can't afford it...

    i'm sure there are plenty of others like me...

    it's either use my reserve money for PJ shows and not have enough for the ed solo shows that immediately follow, or not go to the EV solo cause i know a PJ tour is to follow...

    i think that if EV were to go on tour, he should do it when there's nothing going on in PJ

    EDIT: it's just lighter on the pocket, you know?
  • so pick one and go for it.
  • yellowporchyellowporch Posts: 510
    I think Eddie does his shows because some of it is his own and I respect that. Also, I think Ed loves playing small venues (believe it or not) because of the intimacy as previously stated. I guess I don't know the real answer but I doubt the guys mind since they've all been doing their own things for eight months now.
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 93,811
    I started a thread day's ago, and I understand what you're saying! I know nobody cares about our opinion's, but this is a message board. We can say what we want & feel. Right?

    The only thing, that puzzles me, is that a new Pearl Jam record is coming. 14 tracks i've read a few times on the boards, various websites etc.. is complete. So why not polish that record up, get everything ready, then do the tour? I mean, if there wasn't a new record coming or worked on; tour solo like crazy style. Another solo tour alone, for a month, while tape/mixing is still back at the studio where Jeff/Stone/Mike/Matt/Boom members are, just feels weird! :( .. imo!
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    demetrios wrote:
    The only thing, that puzzles me, is that a new Pearl Jam record is coming. 14 tracks i've read a few times on the boards, various websites etc.. is complete. So why not polish that record up, get everything ready, then do the tour? I mean, if there wasn't a new record coming or worked on; tour solo like crazy style. Another solo tour alone, for a month, while tape/mixing is still back at the studio where Jeff/Stone/Mike/Matt/Boom members are, just feels weird! :( .. imo!

    I agree, who know's why Ed is pulling a 3rd leg, and now of all times. But I will NOT complain about it, I'm rather happy, but also slightly confused.
  • PJStatTrackerPJStatTracker Posts: 2,400
    demetrios wrote:
    I started a thread day's ago, and I understand what you're saying! I know nobody cares about our opinion's, but this is a message board. We can say what we want & feel. Right?

    The only thing, that puzzles me, is that a new Pearl Jam record is coming. 14 tracks i've read a few times on the boards, various websites etc.. is complete. So why not polish that record up, get everything ready, then do the tour? I mean, if there wasn't a new record coming or worked on; tour solo like crazy style. Another solo tour alone, for a month, while tape/mixing is still back at the studio where Jeff/Stone/Mike/Matt/Boom members are, just feels weird! :( .. imo!

    That's making a ton of assumptions, though. It could also be that the album is finished and there is no more work to be done. Could be that they are just waiting for the right time to release it...like a time they can go on tour. Maybe other members can't go on tour right now for some reason, but Ed can. Point is, we have no clue what's going on in that regard, but we shouldn't just assume that Eddie is leaving the rest of the band in the cold and headed out to tour with his middle fingers up....

    I prefer to think the album is complete, at least all the work that Ed needs to do...but you could also be correct, or maybe it's somewhere between...who knows?
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  • demetrios wrote:
    I started a thread day's ago, and I understand what you're saying! I know nobody cares about our opinion's, but this is a message board. We can say what we want & feel. Right?

    The only thing, that puzzles me, is that a new Pearl Jam record is coming. 14 tracks i've read a few times on the boards, various websites etc.. is complete. So why not polish that record up, get everything ready, then do the tour? I mean, if there wasn't a new record coming or worked on; tour solo like crazy style. Another solo tour alone, for a month, while tape/mixing is still back at the studio where Jeff/Stone/Mike/Matt/Boom members are, just feels weird! :( .. imo!

    That's making a ton of assumptions, though. It could also be that the album is finished and there is no more work to be done. Could be that they are just waiting for the right time to release it...like a time they can go on tour. Maybe other members can't go on tour right now for some reason, but Ed can. Point is, we have no clue what's going on in that regard, but we shouldn't just assume that Eddie is leaving the rest of the band in the cold and headed out to tour with his middle fingers up....

    I prefer to think the album is complete, at least all the work that Ed needs to do...but you could also be correct, or maybe it's somewhere between...who knows?
    Exactly what I was going to say and have said a few other times in other threads.
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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Here's my theory - these dates were originally scheduled for last year but were scrapped last minute because of the impending birth of Ed's second child. (This is not discussing their personal lives - It's been in a few magazine articles that Ed's second child was born on Springsteen's bday 9/23.) Now if you remember the email notifying us of the East Coast tour last year was that all dates may be subject to be canceled at the last minute.

    So Ed is just playing the rest of the shows from his East Coast leg now that he originally wanted to play last year.
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  • HorosHoros Posts: 4,518
    Obviously Ed just needs a few more $$$ with the arrival of the new child.
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  • PureandEasyPureandEasy Posts: 5,815
    Solat13 wrote:
    Here's my theory - these dates were originally scheduled for last year but were scrapped last minute because of the impending birth of Ed's second child. (This is not discussing their personal lives - It's been in a few magazine articles that Ed's second child was born on Springsteen's bday 9/23.) Now if you remember the email notifying us of the East Coast tour last year was that all dates may be subject to be canceled at the last minute.

    So Ed is just playing the rest of the shows from his East Coast leg now that he originally wanted to play last year.
    but that theory is kind of blown considering we saw him in DC in August. If he were to cancel shows, I would think they would have been closer to the birth of his child, than three months a head of time.

    ah, who knows.

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  • KDH12KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    do you ever do thing without your significant other?

    nice to get away from the usual and try new things right?
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  • jwillmojwillmo Posts: 471
    You do realize that there are 5-6 people in Pearl Jam and only one in Eddie Vedder, right? Maybe he wants to go on tour and the other guys have other stuff going on.

    And you're not required to see everything they do. As cool as an EV show would be, I'm going to sit and wait patiently for a full PJ tour. So no, Eddie touring without PJ has no effect on my pocketbook at all.
  • it is a completely different vibe...i really hope the Ed songs dont start bleeding into the PJ set...and I hope for all our sakes he has retired "No War" with the change in administration...


    last time i checked we were still at war!! just because Obama has put a lot of you "back to sleep" doesn't mean that Ed's anti-war voice is no longer needed!! I hope he keeps playing that shit..I love it!!
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    Maybe because Ed likes doing solo shows?



    haha....exactly!


    ed solo is a completely different animal, totally different vibe, than live pearl jam. perhaps ed wants to do *his* own thing, exactly as he wants, bending to the will of no one. i do not begrudge the man the opportunity to do things 100% his way, and a total bonus for us all lucky enough to catch a show or two.




    i actually thought this was going to be why more solo shows w/o new matieral...to which i would counter, he's hitting up new spots, places/people who may've missed out last year....ad hell, pj has been touring every year with no new material since the self-titled.....;)
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  • WildsWilds Posts: 4,329
    it is a completely different vibe...i really hope the Ed songs dont start bleeding into the PJ set...and I hope for all our sakes he has retired "No War" with the change in administration...


    last time i checked we were still at war!! just because Obama has put a lot of you "back to sleep" doesn't mean that Ed's anti-war voice is no longer needed!! I hope he keeps playing that shit..I love it!!

    I hope Ed keeps playing anti-war songs, cause yeah, we are still at war, and he has a passion for that message, and it needs to be said.

    BUT "No More War" is not a great song IMO and needs to go!
  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,395
    Answer: Because he wants to and he can.

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  • I think the original question is a good one. My theory is that Ed wants to get out and play some shows and the rest of the band is not ready/able, so he figures that he will just get out there on his own until the looming fall mini-tour. To me though a more interesting question is why he picked the cities he did for this tour since they are all small market cities (aside from ATL) and he played nearby cities less than a year ago. I just wonder how much new material he is going to break out since I know he doesn't like to repeat himself.
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  • covered in blisscovered in bliss chi-caw-go Posts: 1,332
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkRIbUT6u7Q

    EV is a true artist/musician/performer. Some people are born that way and he's one of them. Didn't he say in a recent interview that he's a slave to it? aka, addicted?

    My guess would be that it's something he wanted to do AND he did it to make money.
  • given2fly23given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 5,940
    no offense to the OP, but this makes no sense.

    just about every great singer in history has played some solo shows at one point in their career. these shows have barely anything to do with PJ. if you are a PJ fan and dont like ITW or even the slower PJ stuff, these shows are probably not gonna cut it for you.

    I'm glad I got to see 3 of these shows last year. I love the presets during PJ shows and the solo stuff.
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  • rival.rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    when i am at a PJ show, i do not want to see any solo ed. i am there to see pearl jam, not eddie with an acoustic guitar in his hand.

    i don't want to hear anything from into the wild, no more, hide your love away...etc. i want to see pearl jam punch me in the face rocking out.
  • non-entity wrote:
    no offense to the OP, but this makes no sense.

    just about every great singer in history has played some solo shows at one point in their career. these shows have barely anything to do with PJ. if you are a PJ fan and dont like ITW or even the slower PJ stuff, these shows are probably not gonna cut it for you.

    I'm glad I got to see 3 of these shows last year. I love the presets during PJ shows and the solo stuff.

    no don't get me wrong...i LOVE ITW...it's just ed's timing with his solo shows...it always seems to follow a tour or be right before a tour (in this case) and those of us who can really afford one PJ show to begin with, are forced to choose one...i think naturally more people would choose PJ over EV solo when faced to choose which one they should go to...it's not that i'm complaining...it's more that i'm saying that EV should play a few songs during a tour to satisfy those who aren't able to attend his solo shows...i remember in the 08 tour, i went to the first MSG show and i was expecting to hear a couple of EV solos.
  • JaneNYJaneNY Posts: 4,438
    Maybe because Ed likes doing solo shows?

    ^^^^ This. He's very good at it, seems to love it and its a great show to be at. Maybe he misses the fans the way we miss him.
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,484
    first off, let me say that i am not Ed & my former band wasn't anywhere near the caliber of PJ. this is just my take on it.

    i was in a moderately successful local band for about 4 years. prior to be being in the band, i played solo shows. about 2 years into my time with the band, i approached all of them & let them know that i was going to start playing solo again. they were fine with it. as a songwriter, you can't limit yourself. while i loved playing music with them, i also found myself writing a lot of songs that wouldn't fit within our band. i needed an outlet for these songs, so i kept on writing/recording little demos until i realized that i really wanted to play them live. the thing is, the other guys in my band encouraged this, because they knew that i was feeding my creative side. thus, help me to appreciate our band more & more. and you know what? they were right! our last 2 years as a band were by far the most fun & most productive.

    Ed is a creative guy. he writes songs & wants to play them. i imagine that he has quite a few songs up his sleeve that the band has never heard. maybe he thinks that they wouldn't fit w/in PJ's sound. i see nothing wrong with having side projects, playing solo shows, etc. hope this made sense!! 8-)
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  • Indifference71Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,872
    While the EV solo shows are awesome, the timing just seems a little strange. I just hope this won't be taking anything away from the new album, which I doubt it will.
  • Personally I'm preferring Ed solo to the full band these days. But that's just me. And yes, Ed solo/Pearl Jam shows are two completely different animals. I have little to no interest in seeing Pearl Jam perform Ed's songs.
  • hopethatuchokehopethatuchoke Posts: 2,927
    A) More money. Not splitting it 5 ways (6 if they pay Boom in anything other than free merch and pineapples0
    B) He gets to play into the wild stuff that the full band don't play
    C) Money
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