I honestly think this is as fair as it gets for a show like this... small venue = limited seats. We'll have to see just how many 10club folks get shut out before we start criticizing the new system. It says on the info page that we will know if we have seats before tickets go on sale to the public and that's what matters.
I don't think this will be the process for a PJ tour ... not that I think it's a horrible idea - I like the idea because it's less stressful and i'd rather lose tickets to real luck/lotto than to a crashed webpage ... my original point was that i don't think the limits will be the same for a PJ tour.
Maybe I'm crazy but I think less people will be spending $$ on concerts this year so the public sales shouldn't be as stressful..
agree.
Last eV tour, some got tis to 2 NY shows while others got shut out. This great. now to break this "great" news to the misses
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It's more fair than the current system, where you get pushed back in NYC, DC, Boston, Philly, and every single other east coast show. I think this would force a more even distribution. It eases the congestion on major cities, but it's not like the entire nyc fan club is going to buy dc tickets instead. Some might, but some might also opt for Philly, Jersey, Portland, Hartford, or wherever. The effect on any one given city outside the high demand areas would be minimal if it has any impact other than positive at all. But the help it gives to the big high demand cities would be huge. Anything beats being shut out of good seats no matter what show you go to. Those people you're worried about "pushing you back" in DC are ALREADY pushing you back in DC right now, because they get better seats than you to an unlimited number of shows. No matter what, you're moving up.
I don't think it is more fair. If you only want one show, that is great. If you want multiple, great. benefit of your 10c number. Maybe, But I would rather my good seats at multiple shows that move up maybe 3 rows for 1 show. And you are arguing with me like outside of MSG, it was hard to get tickets to other shows.
Of course you would. Cos you don't give a fuck about anyone but yourself. To the person who's never been closer than row 30 though, moving up 20 rows into row 10 is a HUGE deal. And I think it's a dick move on your part to tell those people they should stop whining when you're right here whining about the possibility of having to sit in the 15th row for a few shows instead of the 4th row every night so that people that normally would be row 30 every night can get to be in row 14 for ONE night.
The ONLY people benefited by the current system are people with low numbers that see several shows a tour. EVERYONE else is hurt by it. Going by portion of the fanbase, that's fucked up. You've got a tiny minority of the fans screwing everybody else by being the loudest, whiniest pricks on the planet.
Ok -1. relax- you don't know me so calm down before telling me what or who I care about. I am making an argument- Outside of Atlantic city where it was general admission on the floor, I have never been closer than 15 rows out or so. There is no guarantee of moving up 20 rows, or 10 , maybe in some cities, but not, if you think about it, all of them. If you are always row 3 I am happy for you, it is not my luck unless I win the lottery. And I could also argue you want this system because it benefits you, if you only go to 1 show per tour, of course you would want this idea. I am sure if I went to a show outside the northeast where I live, not Chicago, or LA, or Seattle, i would get better seats. But guess what, I don't, and I have no problem with it. A large amount of the fan base is in the northeast so I think your system would not work as well here. In other areas maybe.
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I agree that some sort of ticket limit needed to be put in place. The demand the last few tours has been excessive. However, in regards to this new policy, I do think the lottery is a bad idea. Doing the ticket sales the usual way but imposing a ticket limit would have reduced the load enough, IMO. I just dont like the idea of someone behind the scenes "selecting" who gets tickets and who doesnt. However, in regards to future PJ tours, I hope that a more reasonable limit is put into place, such as 4-6 shows per member, per tour. This band thrives on its rabid fanbase, and I think they are aware that many fans travel across the country (or globe) to see them.
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I agree. I don't like the lottery pre sale, at ALL. I'd rather fight tooth and nail with the computer with everyone else on board than rely on someone behind the scenes randomly choosing. I do however, LOVE the show limit idea. I wanted this the last time EV was touring.
As someone who has a high ten club number i like the ticket limit idea for future shows. Maybe my seat might be a little bit better if i can at least get in front of the out of town people at my home town show.
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MMMM... I like the idea of the lottery, I think it makes sense. It is SO STRESSFUL to refresh a webpage every 0.5 seconds... It got me into MSG last year, but... too much stress...
BTW, I've seen Eddie last year in Boston, was awesome, but I don't feel going again this year, I mean, how different can this show be compared to the one I've seen last year??
I sincerely hope, instead, that people that weren't able to see it last year will be able to do it now!
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I skipped through a bunch of the posts arguing about stuff I cant understand at 5pm after 10 hours of reading fine print, but I think my general point is:
one show limit/lottery is fine for smaller shows. hopefully, with the limit, they can accommodate just about everyone who enters, like they used to in 2003 and prior.
for larger shows/full tours, make the limit something more reasonable. the people who go to every show on every tour can still go, but just not have 10C seats for every show.
the hometown show idea will never work. first, people will complain about the area limits. second, it opens the door for more scalpers to sign up for the 10C and use their new membership to hurdle the 90% of people who dont live in the area. this idea kills seniority.
It all boils down to the band if they do a 100 show tour than more fans would be able to see them but i believe this band doesn't have it in them to do those tours anymore, even last yr summer tour it wasn't that many shows and mike said in an interview he was exausted ,that equals to not to many shows in one leg less tickets to the fan club and that equals to upset fans .......
Ok -1. relax- you don't know me so calm down before telling me what or who I care about. I am making an argument- Outside of Atlantic city where it was general admission on the floor, I have never been closer than 15 rows out or so. There is no guarantee of moving up 20 rows, or 10 , maybe in some cities, but not, if you think about it, all of them. If you are always row 3 I am happy for you, it is not my luck unless I win the lottery. And I could also argue you want this system because it benefits you, if you only go to 1 show per tour, of course you would want this idea. I am sure if I went to a show outside the northeast where I live, not Chicago, or LA, or Seattle, i would get better seats. But guess what, I don't, and I have no problem with it. A large amount of the fan base is in the northeast so I think your system would not work as well here. In other areas maybe.
I've never been closer than 15 rows either. And I typically go to 2-3 shows per tour, depending on my schedule and how close they come. It wouldn't benefit me any more than you. I want this system becos it HELPS the northeast by not shutting people out of big shows in their hometown... like New Yorkers getting shut out of the MSG shows becos of people coming from Philly and Boston. It also helps those kids that just got into Pearl Jam and would like to be able to see the band from a bit closer than row 30 on the floor squinting between every tall dude ahead of them.
I think they ought to just do 2 rounds. Each fan club members gets to pick one show with one backups and get tickets to that show via seniority. That's round one. After that, whatever seats are left at the back of the fan club section are opened up to fan club members as first come, first serve, like a regular public onsale.
I have to agree with you . . . letting each person have a crack at the show they really want to see before a free for all means more people have a chance to see at least one show. It doesn't really seem fair that some get to see 5 or 6 shows while others who can't travel are shut out of their local show.
I am curious, what shows are people talkig about getting shut out from? The only ones I remember are MSG and the vic. Every other show was easily available.
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bingo! i have a hard time believing that it's 100% random.
agree.
Last eV tour, some got tis to 2 NY shows while others got shut out. This great. now to break this "great" news to the misses
Wrigley Earthcam/Hartford 2013
Ok -1. relax- you don't know me so calm down before telling me what or who I care about. I am making an argument- Outside of Atlantic city where it was general admission on the floor, I have never been closer than 15 rows out or so. There is no guarantee of moving up 20 rows, or 10 , maybe in some cities, but not, if you think about it, all of them. If you are always row 3 I am happy for you, it is not my luck unless I win the lottery. And I could also argue you want this system because it benefits you, if you only go to 1 show per tour, of course you would want this idea. I am sure if I went to a show outside the northeast where I live, not Chicago, or LA, or Seattle, i would get better seats. But guess what, I don't, and I have no problem with it. A large amount of the fan base is in the northeast so I think your system would not work as well here. In other areas maybe.
Charlotte 03
Asheville 04
Atlanta 12
Greenville 16, Columbia 16
Seattle 18
Nashville 22
Ohana Festival 24 x2
BTW, I've seen Eddie last year in Boston, was awesome, but I don't feel going again this year, I mean, how different can this show be compared to the one I've seen last year??
I sincerely hope, instead, that people that weren't able to see it last year will be able to do it now!
...is it so wrong to think that love can keep us safe?
one show limit/lottery is fine for smaller shows. hopefully, with the limit, they can accommodate just about everyone who enters, like they used to in 2003 and prior.
for larger shows/full tours, make the limit something more reasonable. the people who go to every show on every tour can still go, but just not have 10C seats for every show.
the hometown show idea will never work. first, people will complain about the area limits. second, it opens the door for more scalpers to sign up for the 10C and use their new membership to hurdle the 90% of people who dont live in the area. this idea kills seniority.
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I've never been closer than 15 rows either. And I typically go to 2-3 shows per tour, depending on my schedule and how close they come. It wouldn't benefit me any more than you. I want this system becos it HELPS the northeast by not shutting people out of big shows in their hometown... like New Yorkers getting shut out of the MSG shows becos of people coming from Philly and Boston. It also helps those kids that just got into Pearl Jam and would like to be able to see the band from a bit closer than row 30 on the floor squinting between every tall dude ahead of them.
I know... MSG/Vic bitterness.....