Ticket Limits
given2fly23
Evanston, IL Posts: 5,940
I agree that some sort of ticket limit needed to be put in place. The demand the last few tours has been excessive. However, in regards to this new policy, I do think the lottery is a bad idea. Doing the ticket sales the usual way but imposing a ticket limit would have reduced the load enough, IMO. I just dont like the idea of someone behind the scenes "selecting" who gets tickets and who doesnt. However, in regards to future PJ tours, I hope that a more reasonable limit is put into place, such as 4-6 shows per member, per tour. This band thrives on its rabid fanbase, and I think they are aware that many fans travel across the country (or globe) to see them.
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We're in a new game now people, we have to be flexible and open to new buying options so that everyone can have a fair chance at getting tickets to the hottest shows on earth.
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I think it's psychotic to get 6 fan club shows. How many people go to that many shows per tour? Not many aside from the people with no lives outside PJ. It helps the problem not at all. I think the issue is when you play 2 nights in nyc or philly and the same people all have the first 10 rows locked up both nights, while others are shut out.
I think they ought to just do 2 rounds. Each fan club members gets to pick one show with one backups and get tickets to that show via seniority. That's round one. After that, whatever seats are left at the back of the fan club section are opened up to fan club members as first come, first serve, like a regular public onsale.
this is the fairest solution for all i think ...
I don't think this will be the process for a PJ tour ... not that I think it's a horrible idea - I like the idea because it's less stressful and i'd rather lose tickets to real luck/lotto than to a crashed webpage ... my original point was that i don't think the limits will be the same for a PJ tour.
Maybe I'm crazy but I think less people will be spending $$ on concerts this year so the public sales shouldn't be as stressful..
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More than you think. Pearl Jam has a cult following and the fact that TC members have the opportunity to attempt to get as many shows as possible has only increased this following. Beginning in 2006, the band has really limited the amount of cities they've played, so demand for tickets has been very high. If they do another big tour (like 2003, hitting the smaller cities), it will be easier to get tickets.
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I doubt if there is 'someone selecting'. More like computer generated.
I'm less worried about getting tix than about the same people in the same seats every night. I never heard of anyone getting shut out of tix on the more limited 06 tour. I'm just saying they ought to give you one show where your seniority counts, so that different people are close every night. After that, it's a free-for-all.
I have to agree with you . . . letting each person have a crack at the show they really want to see before a free for all means more people have a chance to see at least one show. It doesn't really seem fair that some get to see 5 or 6 shows while others who can't travel are shut out of their local show.
I am curious, what shows are people talkig about getting shut out from? The only ones I remember are MSG and the vic. Every other show was easily available.
Hm, that's a very interesting idea, but I think you might still run into a situation where people are getting shut out of their 1st choice show. NYC, Boston, Philly would get the most 1st choice interest from fan clubbers from all over the world.
I've never been shut out of a show. I even lucked out and got Vic tickets. The random row lotteries isn't enough in my mind. Sure if you get lucky, you're in. But you've still got the issue of the exact same people in rows 3-8 and 11-20 every single night of the tour. That's lame. You get your primo seniority seats for one show, so that everyone else can also be a bit closer one show. Then those people will have to suffer the indignity of maybe sitting towards the back of the floor with the peasants of the fan club. Oh, the horror!
Maybe, maybe not. I feel like in that event, even local nyc people traveling to other east coast shows might pick another date for their fan club tickets, figuring they'll be a little closer, and then take regular tickets to nyc. Or maybe people traveling from out of town to nyc will opt to just grab ticketmaster tickets or snap up whatever tickets are left after round one of fan club ordering and instead use their hometown as their 1st choice show, thus easing the congestion for msg tickets. No system is perfect, but I think it's generally utterly absurd that no matter what show I go to, the same people will be standing in front of me, even in my hometown halfway across the country, just becos they have nothing to do with their money and life other than travel to my city and take up the good seats.
I've never gone to a show in nyc. No thanks.
I disagree, I went to 4 shows last tour, and had different people around me everynight. I have a lower number as well. As well as I took a different person to every show so they could see my favorite band.
I hear you about the seniority seating. I finally got on the floor at MSG2 last year. I was still 30 rows back after being in the fan club for almost 10 years now. I'd love the chance to get closer. I think they did a better job at mixing up the lottery for closer seats last year, but it'd be nice to give more people a chance to get closer.
I did get shut out of fan club tix for MSG1 though. I still made it to the show so it wasn't a big deal. But, I think with your plan I think I'd still end up far back on the floor b/c of all the fan clubbers who'd choose NYC as their 1st choice.
But in this case, everyone in NYC picks DC, so I get pushed back in my hometown since it is an easy trip. Is that fair?
I don't know. I'm willing to bet they could accommodate a lot of people that way. No more out of towners from Philly and elsewhere snapping up MSG seats, and even the people inside NYC are split between night one and night two. Odds are everyone gets a ticket to their hometown show and gets to sit a helluva lot closer than they usually do when they take a backseat to the thousands of fans trucking in from Boston and Philly.
So what do they do in say, Atlanta, or New Orleans, or West Palm where there are not as many fans? Those areas are not in as much demand as the northeast, chicago, LA. Should people that take vacations just say we'll go there for no reason other than see PJ rather than make a trip of it to NYC, or Boston? Its not like it was hard to get philly tickets last time, or boston, or DC.
It's more fair than the current system, where you get pushed back in NYC, DC, Boston, Philly, and every single other east coast show. I think this would force a more even distribution. It eases the congestion on major cities, but it's not like the entire nyc fan club is going to buy dc tickets instead. Some might, but some might also opt for Philly, Jersey, Portland, Hartford, or wherever. The effect on any one given city outside the high demand areas would be minimal if it has any impact other than positive at all. But the help it gives to the big high demand cities would be huge. Anything beats being shut out of good seats no matter what show you go to. Those people you're worried about "pushing you back" in DC are ALREADY pushing you back in DC right now, because they get better seats than you to an unlimited number of shows. No matter what, you're moving up.
This is like a legal hypothetical... take something to its most absurd, never-gonna-happen limit, and then use that as a reason to dismiss a good idea. You really think 6000 people from NYC are all going to simultaneously and spontaneously book flights and hotels for West Palm Beach and fuck over the entire Florida fan population and shut them out? Maybe a handful of fans would travel based on that logic, but they wouldn't all be going to the same city and since tickets there are much easier to come by the fans in those cities probably wouldn't even notice any difference in their seats.
I don't think it is more fair. If you only want one show, that is great. If you want multiple, great. benefit of your 10c number. Maybe, But I would rather my good seats at multiple shows that move up maybe 3 rows for 1 show. And you are arguing with me like outside of MSG, it was hard to get tickets to other shows.
let me clarify this for you, so cities that would not even sell out their 10c allotment, like west palm in 2008, in the south and some others, should be people be directed that way because some cities are harder to score tickets to than others, since MSG was hard to get in 08? Or should people that can not get them or travel be punished because other people in the northeast go to multiple shows for their vacations and take friends and family with them. And I am glad you think you have a good idea, but others may not. I see your point, I am sure you don't see mine. I remember when you only got 1 show as well.
I couldn't agree with you more... it's this cult following that's helped with the popularity band.....
Of course you would. Cos you don't give a fuck about anyone but yourself. To the person who's never been closer than row 30 though, moving up 20 rows into row 10 is a HUGE deal. And I think it's a dick move on your part to tell those people they should stop whining when you're right here whining about the possibility of having to sit in the 15th row for a few shows instead of the 4th row every night so that people that normally would be row 30 every night can get to be in row 14 for ONE night.
The ONLY people benefited by the current system are people with low numbers that see several shows a tour. EVERYONE else is hurt by it. Going by portion of the fanbase, that's fucked up. You've got a tiny minority of the fans screwing everybody else by being the loudest, whiniest pricks on the planet.
this is fine for this little tour
perhaps they are trying to see just how many tickets they need for each venue
or perhaps they just dont want the servers to crash
who knows, I just hope I get a ticket to the tower.
NOW ABOUT THIS SENIORITY THING :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
That's not clarifying at all. I still have no idea what you're asking. What's the problem here? Other people flooding the south and stealing their good seats?