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Why did they include Foxymophandlemama, thatsme?

musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
edited April 2009 in The Porch
WHt were they going for on this song? One of the most bizaare if not the most bizaare pearl jam song, along with Bugs and Aye Davanita. Though this song takes the cake.

What was the point of it? What mood were they trying to convey?
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  • PJFAN_seattlePJFAN_seattle Posts: 2,965
    suchca creepy song!
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  • ms. goldenwordsms. goldenwords Posts: 387
    it creeps me out and i think i have skipped it every single time since my first listen ... i know that's horrible, but it really just gives me the heebees for some reason ... so basically i'm saying: i have no clue :?
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 41,232
    Maybe too much pot, wine, and time on their hands?
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 41,232
    Little bit of thought here. I'm thinking Bugs is a statement about fame , fans and how he eventually came to embrace us.

    Foxy mop is another statement song but more about how society can fuck with kids and warp thier thinking.

    Aye Davanita was the beginning of the "experiments" with music. It does have a groove to it.
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  • ScrapeMySkyScrapeMySky Posts: 426
    I really liked that song from the beginning. Not sure why exactly. Plus it kept me busy for a while, because getting all the little snippets and samples took me quite some time. Still somewhat creepy, though. But in a good way. :)
  • Thorns2010Thorns2010 Posts: 2,201
    mickeyrat wrote:
    Little bit of thought here. I'm thinking Bugs is a statement about fame , fans and how he eventually came to embrace us.

    Foxy mop is another statement song but more about how society can fuck with kids and warp thier thinking.

    Aye Davanita was the beginning of the "experiments" with music. It does have a groove to it.


    Aside from the fact that Foxy Mop is an older lady talking......
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 41,232
    Thorns2010 wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    Little bit of thought here. I'm thinking Bugs is a statement about fame , fans and how he eventually came to embrace us.

    Foxy mop is another statement song but more about how society can fuck with kids and warp thier thinking.

    Aye Davanita was the beginning of the "experiments" with music. It does have a groove to it.


    Aside from the fact that Foxy Mop is an older lady talking......
    sounds like someone about ten years old or so to me.
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  • surforiasurforia SoCal Posts: 352
    I remember reading somewhere that EV added it without the rest of the band's knowledge at the last minute before the album went to presses, and that the rest of the guys were pissed off about it... Sorry, can't remember the source.
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  • Thorns2010Thorns2010 Posts: 2,201
    mickeyrat wrote:
    Thorns2010 wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    Little bit of thought here. I'm thinking Bugs is a statement about fame , fans and how he eventually came to embrace us.

    Foxy mop is another statement song but more about how society can fuck with kids and warp thier thinking.

    Aye Davanita was the beginning of the "experiments" with music. It does have a groove to it.


    Aside from the fact that Foxy Mop is an older lady talking......
    sounds like someone about ten years old or so to me.

    http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=8407

    I've heard that fact repeated time after time, I just can't find a more 'official' conformation of it right now.
  • ms. goldenwordsms. goldenwords Posts: 387
    surforia wrote:
    I remember reading somewhere that EV added it without the rest of the band's knowledge at the last minute before the album went to presses, and that the rest of the guys were pissed off about it... Sorry, can't remember the source.

    wow - that would seriously piss me off (if i was in the band). :(
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 41,232
    Thorns2010 wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    Thorns2010 wrote:
    Aside from the fact that Foxy Mop is an older lady talking......
    sounds like someone about ten years old or so to me.

    http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=8407

    I've heard that fact repeated time after time, I just can't find a more 'official' conformation of it right now.
    Interesting. Still sounds like a young girl to me . at least in the beginning.
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  • youngsteryoungster Boston Posts: 6,576
    I remember reading it was a tape of a patient in a mental ward that was slowed down and sped up speed wise to contort the voice. Also Jack Irons' first drum session with the band.
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  • moozeekfanmoozeekfan Posts: 195
    The recording of the woman is actually from an old psychology video that students used to watch about OCD and mental illness. I can assure you the sound is not sped up or slowed down. She talks to herself using different voices, it's actually not as creepy as the music would suggest. :p
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Because the groove Jeff and Jack get going at the end kicks fucking ass!
  • Vedd HeddVedd Hedd Posts: 4,614
    I dont listen to it all the time. But its a great song and Im glad it was included. its not the best song to play at parties. :)

    But its pretty experimental, and like soulsinging said, Jeff and Jack have a great groove.

    (soulsinging, nice to see your name)

    Anyway, yes its an older lady talking, and she is a patient at a mental hospital. I thought I remembered Ed an Jeff saying that they were watching the news or some documentary and this came on. Not sure.
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  • mrshock13mrshock13 Posts: 472
    mickeyrat wrote:
    Maybe too much pot, wine, and time on their hands?

    Don't we all? :lol:

    And how can you say bugs is a random song?!?! FRICKIN' ACCORDION GOODNESS!! AND BUGS!!1! IT DOESN'T GET BETTER!!!11!!
  • BravejamriotBravejamriot Posts: 217
    They had space on the album, Ed must have thought it was interesting. Maybe he was testing how the critics and all would take it.
  • PJ Fan est. 1990PJ Fan est. 1990 Posts: 1,788
    putting this sort of song on an album shows influence from the bands that inspired them...

    for instance, The Beatles have Wild Honey Pie and The Piggies (i forget what that song is really called) and Pink Floyd has a lot of that experimental stuff...

    aside from the fact they must have been tripping to write these songs, the purpose is to kind of break up the album into sections...like the White Album would just never be the same if (when listening to it in order) you didn't hear those quirky little tid bits in there
  • i_lov_iti_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    I hear ya! they included songs like that which aren't bad just...'different' lol on albums yet left out songs from 'Ten' like "Brother" and "Alone" etc.
  • Jeremys SpokenJeremys Spoken Posts: 7,578
    It spooked the shit outta me, I was listening in pure darkness it was scary lol.
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  • PJFAN_seattlePJFAN_seattle Posts: 2,965
    Jeremy's Spoken wrote:
    It spooked the shit outta me, I was listening in pure darkness it was scary lol.
    HahHah sometimes when im listening at night and it comes on ill freak out from it.
    Scary Pearl Jam......

    I wonder where I could find the video of the recording.
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  • rockpantsrockpants BC Posts: 838
    The Story of Why "Hey, Foxymophandlemama, that's Me" was included on Vitalogy

    Because it's awesome.

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  • darthvedder81darthvedder81 Posts: 688
    "Vitalogy" was basically Ed's album and the bands least collaborative effort (not knocking it at all just stating the facts). Songs like "Pry, to" and "Aye Davanita" are just cool groovy filler. "Bugs" and "Stupid Mop" are obviously Ed f*cking around in the studio after the rest of the band went home. The 2nd "Ramblings" from the 92' single has a similar feel to "Mop."
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  • Evacuation RulesEvacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    It goes to show that some people cannot handle anything even remotely experimental. It's kind of like how people still bitch that "Revolution 9 "ruins" the White Album, 40 years later.
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,936
    musicismylife78 wrote:
    WHt were they going for on this song? One of the most bizaare if not the most bizaare pearl jam song, along with Bugs and Aye Davanita. Though this song takes the cake.

    What was the point of it? What mood were they trying to convey?

    for the same reason The Beatles included Revolution #9
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    Evacuation Rules wrote:
    It goes to show that some people cannot handle anything even remotely experimental. It's kind of like how people still bitch that "Revolution 9 "ruins" the White Album, 40 years later.

    i don't think the original poster was bitching about the song, but more curious.
    I completely think that they were going for that Revolution 9 mysterious psycho jam thing. I think PJ have topped the Beatles though. in my opinion.
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Evacuation Rules wrote:
    It goes to show that some people cannot handle anything even remotely experimental. It's kind of like how people still bitch that "Revolution 9 "ruins" the White Album, 40 years later.

    It kinda does. At least Foxymop comes at the end of the album and has some music to it. Revolution 9 breaks up the flow of a stellar disc 2/side 4 and cuts some great songs off from the rest of the album, and there's nothing musical about it, it's just tape loops. It's the only serious misstep in the entire Beatles catalogue.
  • patrickredeyespatrickredeyes Posts: 8,834
    musicismylife78 wrote:
    WHt were they going for on this song? One of the most bizaare if not the most bizaare pearl jam song, along with Bugs and Aye Davanita. Though this song takes the cake.

    What was the point of it?


    They needed to add some more mins to the album. I have never listened to it all the way and never will.
  • ms. goldenwordsms. goldenwords Posts: 387
    Evacuation Rules wrote:
    It goes to show that some people cannot handle anything even remotely experimental. It's kind of like how people still bitch that "Revolution 9 "ruins" the White Album, 40 years later.

    nobody is bitching. and not enjoying something is not the same as "can't handle." i can handle it, i just don't enjoy listening to it. i never thought it was a mistake or that it shouldn't have been included. i just choose not to listen to it because i don't like the feeling it conveys in ME. :|
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