Iowa strkes down ban on same-sex marriage

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edited April 2009 in A Moving Train
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/03/ ... index.html

The Iowa Supreme Court struck down a state law Friday that banned same-sex marriage.

Iowa becomes the third state in the nation to allow same-sex marriage, after Massachusetts and Connecticut.

Friday's decision upheld a 2007 ruling by a lower court that Iowa's 1998 law limiting marriage to heterosexual couples went against the state's constitution. It becomes effective in 21 days.

"This is a great day for civil rights in Iowa," said attorney Dennis Johnson, a co-counsel with Lambda Legal, which filed the lawsuit on behalf of six same-sex couples seeking to marry in Iowa. "Go get married. Live happily ever after," he said at a news conference where there was loud clapping among plaintiffs.

Other organizations were not pleased. "It's, quite frankly, a disaster," said Brian English, a spokesman for the Iowa Family Policy Center. "Obviously, we're extremely disappointed. We're saddened, perhaps a little bit surprised in the unanimous decision that the court handed down."

The state's highest court determined that "the Iowa statute limiting civil marriage to a union between a man and a woman violates the equal protection clause of the Iowa Constitution," court spokesman Steve Davis said in a written statement. Read PDF of court ruling

"The decision strikes the language from Iowa Code section 595.2 limiting civil marriage to a man and a woman. It further directs that the remaining statutory language be interpreted and applied in a manner allowing gay and lesbian people full access to the institution of civil marriage," the statement on the court's Web site says.

The Iowa Supreme Court said it has the responsibility to determine if a law enacted by the legislative branch and enforced by the executive branch violates the Iowa Constitution. "The court reaffirmed that a statute inconsistent with the Iowa Constitution must be declared void, even though it may be supported by strong and deep-seated traditional beliefs and popular opinion," the court said.

Polk County District Judge Robert Hanson found that the law violated the Iowa Constitution's guarantee of equal protection, and hurt gay and lesbian couples "in numerous tangible and intangible" ways

"Civil marriage in Iowa is the only gateway to an extensive legal structure that protects a married couple's relationship and family in and outside the state," Hanson ruled in Des Moines.

"Iowa reserves an unparalleled array of rights, obligations and benefits to married couples and their families, privileging married couples as a financial and legal unit and stigmatizing same-sex couples."

The case was joined on appeal by several state lawmakers who opposed Hanson's ruling, calling it "a mockery of the judicial system." They argued that the ruling stepped on the state Legislature's authority by using the courts "to effectuate fundamental changes in public policies regarding marriage."

Legislatures in two New England states, Vermont and New Hampshire, have taken steps toward legalizing same-sex marriages.

The Vermont Senate and House have voted to legalize same-sex marriage -- the House voted Thursday night -- but Vermont's governor has said he will veto the measure. New Hampshire's governor has signaled his opposition in the past.

Vermont, New Hampshire and New Jersey allow civil unions for gay and lesbian couples.

Nationwide, the issue of same-sex marriage remains highly divisive. A June 2008 CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll found that 44 percent of adult Americans believe gay marriage should be recognized by law as valid; 53 percent are opposed.

The issue took center stage in the largest U.S. state in November, when California voters narrowly approved a proposition amending the state constitution to ban same-sex marriage. California had been issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples since a May 2008 ruling by the state Supreme Court legalized the unions


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  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    huge kudos to iowa! well done!
    can't wait to see the day that this happens in all 50 states. one by one, we'll get there, and rightly so. marriage is first and foremost a legal right/agreement of all citizens...the religious/spiritual aspects, if they exist, are a whole other - seperate - institution.
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  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,301
    I went to school and lived in Iowa for 5 years, and while I'm not a true native I feel like Iowa is "home" in many ways.

    Good to hear they struck that down! While I thought California would have done it waaaaaay before Iowa, it just leads me to believe that Iowa is just a much smarter state ;).

    Go Iowa!
    Go Hawkeyes!
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Iowa? Who would have thunk it?

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    Iowa? Who would have thunk it?

    Good on them...

    kinda like being the first caucus..who would have thunk it?
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  • JR8805JR8805 Posts: 169
    Iowa is the home to the forefront on many social issues. It was among the first to legalize interracial marriages and allow women to own property. It was also the first state to allow women into the bar & practice law. It also led the way on desegregation. It has a lot to be proud of.
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    JR8805 wrote:
    Iowa is the home to the forefront on many social issues. It was among the first to legalize interracial marriages and allow women to own property. It was also the first state to allow women into the bar & practice law. It also led the way on desegregation. It has a lot to be proud of.
    I did not know that...

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  • poto101 wrote:
    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/03/iowa.same.sex/index.html

    The Iowa Supreme Court struck down a state law Friday that banned same-sex marriage.

    Iowa becomes the third state in the nation to allow same-sex marriage, after Massachusetts and Connecticut.

    Friday's decision upheld a 2007 ruling by a lower court that Iowa's 1998 law limiting marriage to heterosexual couples went against the state's constitution. It becomes effective in 21 days.

    "This is a great day for civil rights in Iowa," said attorney Dennis Johnson, a co-counsel with Lambda Legal, which filed the lawsuit on behalf of six same-sex couples seeking to marry in Iowa. "Go get married. Live happily ever after," he said at a news conference where there was loud clapping among plaintiffs.

    Other organizations were not pleased. "It's, quite frankly, a disaster," said Brian English, a spokesman for the Iowa Family Policy Center. "Obviously, we're extremely disappointed. We're saddened, perhaps a little bit surprised in the unanimous decision that the court handed down."

    The state's highest court determined that "the Iowa statute limiting civil marriage to a union between a man and a woman violates the equal protection clause of the Iowa Constitution," court spokesman Steve Davis said in a written statement. Read PDF of court ruling

    "The decision strikes the language from Iowa Code section 595.2 limiting civil marriage to a man and a woman. It further directs that the remaining statutory language be interpreted and applied in a manner allowing gay and lesbian people full access to the institution of civil marriage," the statement on the court's Web site says.

    The Iowa Supreme Court said it has the responsibility to determine if a law enacted by the legislative branch and enforced by the executive branch violates the Iowa Constitution. "The court reaffirmed that a statute inconsistent with the Iowa Constitution must be declared void, even though it may be supported by strong and deep-seated traditional beliefs and popular opinion," the court said.

    Polk County District Judge Robert Hanson found that the law violated the Iowa Constitution's guarantee of equal protection, and hurt gay and lesbian couples "in numerous tangible and intangible" ways

    "Civil marriage in Iowa is the only gateway to an extensive legal structure that protects a married couple's relationship and family in and outside the state," Hanson ruled in Des Moines.

    "Iowa reserves an unparalleled array of rights, obligations and benefits to married couples and their families, privileging married couples as a financial and legal unit and stigmatizing same-sex couples."

    The case was joined on appeal by several state lawmakers who opposed Hanson's ruling, calling it "a mockery of the judicial system." They argued that the ruling stepped on the state Legislature's authority by using the courts "to effectuate fundamental changes in public policies regarding marriage."

    Legislatures in two New England states, Vermont and New Hampshire, have taken steps toward legalizing same-sex marriages.

    The Vermont Senate and House have voted to legalize same-sex marriage -- the House voted Thursday night -- but Vermont's governor has said he will veto the measure. New Hampshire's governor has signaled his opposition in the past.

    Vermont, New Hampshire and New Jersey allow civil unions for gay and lesbian couples.

    Nationwide, the issue of same-sex marriage remains highly divisive. A June 2008 CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll found that 44 percent of adult Americans believe gay marriage should be recognized by law as valid; 53 percent are opposed.

    The issue took center stage in the largest U.S. state in November, when California voters narrowly approved a proposition amending the state constitution to ban same-sex marriage. California had been issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples since a May 2008 ruling by the state Supreme Court legalized the unions


    Not an Iowa native, but i am proud to be in the state right now.

    why didnt they let the people of Iowa vote on this and not let these LIBERAL activist judges decide what they think is best for the people of Iowa. what about the people that oppose gay marrige ? don't they have rights?
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    prfctlefts wrote:
    why didnt they let the people of Iowa vote on this and not let these LIBERAL activist judges decide what they think is best for the people of Iowa. what about the people that oppose gay marrige ? don't they have rights?
    no they don't, like the Klu Klux Klan before them, they do not have the right to decide what is right or wrong, or legal or not.
  • mca47 wrote:
    I went to school and lived in Iowa for 5 years, and while I'm not a true native I feel like Iowa is "home" in many ways.

    Good to hear they struck that down! While I thought California would have done it waaaaaay before Iowa, it just leads me to believe that Iowa is just a much smarter state ;).

    Go Iowa!
    Go Hawkeyes![/quote

    so just because the people of California believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman they're stupid ?
  • WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    edited April 2009
    Commy wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    why didnt they let the people of Iowa vote on this and not let these LIBERAL activist judges decide what they think is best for the people of Iowa. what about the people that oppose gay marrige ? don't they have rights?
    no they don't, like the Klu Klux Klan before them, they do not have the right to decide what is right or wrong, or legal or not.


    :? :roll:
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  • WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    edited April 2009
    Commy wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    why didnt they let the people of Iowa vote on this and not let these LIBERAL activist judges decide what they think is best for the people of Iowa. what about the people that oppose gay marrige ? don't they have rights?
    no they don't, like the Klu Klux Klan before them, they do not have the right to decide what is right or wrong, or legal or not.

    KKK :? WTF are you talkin about what does that have to do with this ? :roll:
    so let me get this straight, If people oppose gay marriage we shouldn't respect their opinion? Personally I could care less if homosexuals want to tie the knot all Im saying is they should let the people vote on it.
    Post edited by WaveCameCrashin on
  • Cinnamon GirlCinnamon Girl Posts: 1,854
    prfctlefts wrote:
    what about the people that oppose gay marrige ? don't they have rights?

    Sure they do. They have the right to marry whoever they want, just like everyone else!
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Commy wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    why didnt they let the people of Iowa vote on this and not let these LIBERAL activist judges decide what they think is best for the people of Iowa. what about the people that oppose gay marrige ? don't they have rights?
    no they don't, like the Klu Klux Klan before them, they do not have the right to decide what is right or wrong, or legal or not.

    KKK :? WTF are you talkin about what does that have to do with this ? :roll:
    so let me get this straight, If people oppose gay marriage we shouldn't respect their opinion?

    Pretty much exactly. It's a stupid, outdated belief and it's a religious value that has no place in a secular, civil society. That is the brilliance of our country's form of governance... it allows for rule by the majority, but also provides the means to ensure that the majority cannot use that power to strip minorities of their rights.
  • lillburlillbur Posts: 14
    prfctlefts wrote:
    poto101 wrote:
    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/03/iowa.same.sex/index.html

    The Iowa Supreme Court struck down a state law Friday that banned same-sex marriage.

    Iowa becomes the third state in the nation to allow same-sex marriage, after Massachusetts and Connecticut.

    Friday's decision upheld a 2007 ruling by a lower court that Iowa's 1998 law limiting marriage to heterosexual couples went against the state's constitution. It becomes effective in 21 days.

    "This is a great day for civil rights in Iowa," said attorney Dennis Johnson, a co-counsel with Lambda Legal, which filed the lawsuit on behalf of six same-sex couples seeking to marry in Iowa. "Go get married. Live happily ever after," he said at a news conference where there was loud clapping among plaintiffs.

    Other organizations were not pleased. "It's, quite frankly, a disaster," said Brian English, a spokesman for the Iowa Family Policy Center. "Obviously, we're extremely disappointed. We're saddened, perhaps a little bit surprised in the unanimous decision that the court handed down."

    The state's highest court determined that "the Iowa statute limiting civil marriage to a union between a man and a woman violates the equal protection clause of the Iowa Constitution," court spokesman Steve Davis said in a written statement. Read PDF of court ruling

    "The decision strikes the language from Iowa Code section 595.2 limiting civil marriage to a man and a woman. It further directs that the remaining statutory language be interpreted and applied in a manner allowing gay and lesbian people full access to the institution of civil marriage," the statement on the court's Web site says.

    The Iowa Supreme Court said it has the responsibility to determine if a law enacted by the legislative branch and enforced by the executive branch violates the Iowa Constitution. "The court reaffirmed that a statute inconsistent with the Iowa Constitution must be declared void, even though it may be supported by strong and deep-seated traditional beliefs and popular opinion," the court said.

    Polk County District Judge Robert Hanson found that the law violated the Iowa Constitution's guarantee of equal protection, and hurt gay and lesbian couples "in numerous tangible and intangible" ways

    "Civil marriage in Iowa is the only gateway to an extensive legal structure that protects a married couple's relationship and family in and outside the state," Hanson ruled in Des Moines.

    "Iowa reserves an unparalleled array of rights, obligations and benefits to married couples and their families, privileging married couples as a financial and legal unit and stigmatizing same-sex couples."

    The case was joined on appeal by several state lawmakers who opposed Hanson's ruling, calling it "a mockery of the judicial system." They argued that the ruling stepped on the state Legislature's authority by using the courts "to effectuate fundamental changes in public policies regarding marriage."

    Legislatures in two New England states, Vermont and New Hampshire, have taken steps toward legalizing same-sex marriages.

    The Vermont Senate and House have voted to legalize same-sex marriage -- the House voted Thursday night -- but Vermont's governor has said he will veto the measure. New Hampshire's governor has signaled his opposition in the past.

    Vermont, New Hampshire and New Jersey allow civil unions for gay and lesbian couples.

    Nationwide, the issue of same-sex marriage remains highly divisive. A June 2008 CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll found that 44 percent of adult Americans believe gay marriage should be recognized by law as valid; 53 percent are opposed.

    The issue took center stage in the largest U.S. state in November, when California voters narrowly approved a proposition amending the state constitution to ban same-sex marriage. California had been issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples since a May 2008 ruling by the state Supreme Court legalized the unions


    Not an Iowa native, but i am proud to be in the state right now.

    why didnt they let the people of Iowa vote on this and not let these LIBERAL activist judges decide what they think is best for the people of Iowa. what about the people that oppose gay marrige ? don't they have rights?

    Actually, the Iowa legislature did vote on this issue, they voted to ban it several years ago. A lawsuit was filed and the Iowa Supreme Court, which went along with the lower courts, did their jobs by interpreting the constitutionality (based on Iowa's state constitution)of the law. That is the role of the court in the United States. That is not "LIBERAL activist judiciary." In fact a number of the judges that voted on the UNANIMOUS decision were put into place by REPUBLICANS. The court's job is not to look at what is popular or unpopular with the people, it is to look at the law and interpret if it is legal or not. Sorry you have a hard time accepting that.

    Now, aside from my rant, as somebody else posted you can still oppose gay marriage. This ruling does not end your right to do that. And I support your right to do that. Please bare in mind I'm not going to be one of those people that sits here and questions your intelligence, or the people of California, because of your beliefs and call you stupid. As we saw with the Bush years, those kinds of invalid, irrational statements and arguments don't get people anywhere.

    I lived in Iowa for the first 18 years of my life and I am very happy this ruling took place there. Many people across the country have an incorrect, preconceived notion about the state. As has been mentioned the state has been at the forefront of many controversial social issues. As this poster wrongly assumes with the quote of "LIBERAL activist judiciary," Iowa is not a "liberal" state, nor is it a "conservative" state. Iowa, at least in my mind, has always been a state that looks at issues based on their merit and makes decisions based upon the information at hand. It is an overall open-minded place, although like any place it has its issues. That doesn't mean everyone agrees with each other, as the person I quoted above obviously does not. However, most people in the state are fairly accepting. Hell, if the weather weren't so crappy there I definitely wouldn't have ever left! The people in that state are amazing!

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  • IMO This issue isn't about the acceptance of gay marriage.It's about a bunch of liberal activist judges trying to impose their vision of America on the entire country. They are going around the people and people dont like it. The truth is that many people who oppose gay marriage do so because they believe that society is better served by putting traditional marriage in a special place. I believe that America is a strong place because of it's core values,freedom,individual responsibility,and institutions like TRADITIONAL marriage which foster common goals.
    E PLURIBISUNAM,OUT OF MANY ONE
    some activist judges would like to tear that philosophy down,but they have no right to decide how this country operates and what the law should be.The people decide that by voting. In the case of gay marriage in California they decided that marriage should be between a man and a woman and also most of these voters were african american that also voted for Obama, and that decision should be respected. :)
  • lillburlillbur Posts: 14
    I would like someone to explain how this is an example of judicial activism? Please remember the this specific court has been made up of Republicans and Democrats and the decision was UNANIMOUS. The judicial system's purpose is to interpret law. The Iowa State Supreme Court interpreted the law that was written by the state of Iowa as unconstitutional. Once again, the purpose of the court system is not to take into consideration the popularity or unpopularity of law, it is to interpret and make decisions based upon the legal system. That is what was done in this case. For those of you that forgot your high school government class, our government is based upon 3 SEPARATE branches of government. So, once again, I ask someone to explain how this is judicial activism?

    I have no problem with someone not liking the outcome of the decision, nobody is ever going to agree with everything. I do have a problem with what seem to be irrational, uneducated responses.
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  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,301
    prfctlefts wrote:
    mca47 wrote:
    I went to school and lived in Iowa for 5 years, and while I'm not a true native I feel like Iowa is "home" in many ways.

    Good to hear they struck that down! While I thought California would have done it waaaaaay before Iowa, it just leads me to believe that Iowa is just a much smarter state ;).

    Go Iowa!
    Go Hawkeyes![/quote

    so just because the people of California believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman they're stupid ?

    Relax, I was just joking around...
  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,768
    i think GAY MARRIAGE is just fucking ridiculous..........

    just my opinion.....
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  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    That is the brilliance of our country's form of governance... it allows for rule by the majority, but also provides the means to ensure that the majority cannot use that power to strip minorities of their rights.

    Exactly! If only it would work this way more often!
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    prfctlefts wrote:
    IMO This issue isn't about the acceptance of gay marriage.It's about a bunch of liberal activist judges trying to impose their vision of America on the entire country. They are going around the people and people dont like it. The truth is that many people who oppose gay marriage do so because they believe that society is better served by putting traditional marriage in a special place. I believe that America is a strong place because of it's core values,freedom,individual responsibility,and institutions like TRADITIONAL marriage which foster common goals.
    E PLURIBISUNAM,OUT OF MANY ONE
    some activist judges would like to tear that philosophy down,but they have no right to decide how this country operates and what the law should be.The people decide that by voting. In the case of gay marriage in California they decided that marriage should be between a man and a woman and also most of these voters were african american that also voted for Obama, and that decision should be respected. :)

    Would you have a problem with the judges if they didn't overturn this? Couldn't they then be considered "activist judges" trying to keep down equal rights for everyone, or are they only "LIBERAL activist judges" because you happen to disagree with their decision?
  • so shouldn't we let polygamist get married now? after all aren't they a minority ?
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    It was 'Activist Judges' that eventually made the decision on Civil Rights. If it were left to the 'good people' of the South in 1965... what do you think would have happened?
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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    prfctlefts wrote:
    so shouldn't we let polygamist get married now? after all aren't they a minority ?
    No...

    Marriage between a two people should be fine, regardless. In matters like property, next of kin, etc.. it makes sense for there to be legalized gay marriage.

    Multiple partners makes it a whole different ball game.
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  • Cinnamon GirlCinnamon Girl Posts: 1,854
    prfctlefts wrote:
    so shouldn't we let polygamist get married now? after all aren't they a minority ?

    ummm maybe yes. I think any religion that is fair to all people to offer positions and opportunity is fair.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    prfctlefts wrote:
    so shouldn't we let polygamist get married now? after all aren't they a minority ?
    ...
    Between 'Consenting Adults'? Why not.
    The State steps into Polyamist marriages usually because the Groom CHOOSES a 12 year old Bride. That's where the State has a better outlook than the 'people' doing the marrying.
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  • WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    edited April 2009
    Cosmo wrote:
    It was 'Activist Judges' that eventually made the decision on Civil Rights. If it were left to the 'good people' of the South in 1965... what do you think would have happened?
    Sometimes... The People are wrong. Sometimes... the Masses are Asses.

    sorry but I think there's a pretty big gap between the two.
    Post edited by WaveCameCrashin on
  • prfctlefts wrote:
    so shouldn't we let polygamist get married now? after all aren't they a minority ?
    No...

    Marriage between a two people should be fine, regardless. In matters like property, next of kin, etc.. it makes sense for there to be legalized gay marriage.

    Multiple partners makes it a whole different ball game.


    No it doesn't.... aren't they minority Don't they have rights?
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    It was 'Activist Judges' that eventually made the decision on Civil Rights. If it were left to the 'good people' of the South in 1965... what do you think would have happened?
    Sometimes... The People are wrong. Sometimes... the Masses are Asses.

    sorry but I think there's a pretty big gap between the two.
    ...
    The basic principles are the same. The people living in the South in the 50s and early 60s were perfectly fine with living in Segregation. it was of their opinion that the races shouldn't mix.
    If left to a vote of the people of Mississippi, for example, what do you think the outcome for de-segregation would have been? it's not that they were Bad people... just living with outdated opinions.
    The same thing comes into play today.
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  • Cosmo wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    It was 'Activist Judges' that eventually made the decision on Civil Rights. If it were left to the 'good people' of the South in 1965... what do you think would have happened?
    Sometimes... The People are wrong. Sometimes... the Masses are Asses.

    sorry but I think there's a pretty big gap between the two.
    ...
    The basic principles are the same. The people living in the South in the 50s and early 60s were perfectly fine with living in Segregation. it was of their opinion that the races shouldn't mix.
    If left to a vote of the people of Mississippi, for example, what do you think the outcome for de-segregation would have been? it's not that they were Bad people... just living with outdated opinions.
    The same thing comes into play today.

    I have to disagree .. gays being able to get married and poeple being lynched?
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    prfctlefts wrote:
    IMO This issue isn't about the acceptance of gay marriage.It's about a bunch of liberal activist judges trying to impose their vision of America on the entire country. They are going around the people and people dont like it. The truth is that many people who oppose gay marriage do so because they believe that society is better served by putting traditional marriage in a special place. I believe that America is a strong place because of it's core values,freedom,individual responsibility,and institutions like TRADITIONAL marriage which foster common goals.
    E PLURIBISUNAM,OUT OF MANY ONE
    some activist judges would like to tear that philosophy down,but they have no right to decide how this country operates and what the law should be.The people decide that by voting. In the case of gay marriage in California they decided that marriage should be between a man and a woman and also most of these voters were african american that also voted for Obama, and that decision should be respected. :)

    what's a Liberal Activist Judge...?
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