why give money to childrens charities?

Irish Al

From reading the rest of your posts helen, I really dont see the point of this tread. Ultimately, Sophie shouldn't be raped in the first place so if there was no abuse in the world then we wouldn't have to worry...but there is, the govt cant afford to pay for the needs of all and there is no discussion about the mental consequences for "Sophie". I think you should ask the mods to delete this thread beacuse it serves as no benefit to the world...sorry

Horos

Everyone could pay more taxes and this could help resolve some of the issues but then the people would feel like the money was just being taken from them.

The people giving to charities give themselves a feeling of entitlement for giving. It makes them special and that's what they seek only an anonymous doner is actually doing it for others. People that have their names attached to the donations are really just promoting themselves.

Sure there is plenty of suffering in the world just as there is plenty of over indulgence.

Heineken Helen

Irish Al wrote:

From reading the rest of your posts helen, I really dont see the point of this tread. Ultimately, Sophie shouldn't be raped in the first place so if there was no abuse in the world then we wouldn't have to worry...but there is, the govt cant afford to pay for the needs of all and there is no discussion about the mental consequences for "Sophie". I think you should ask the mods to delete this thread beacuse it serves as no benefit to the world...sorry

Ok, I understand that this is something you and others feel strongly about... but ya know what, so do I! Of course it should not happen in the first place but I find it hard to agree that the help should not be there without resorting to charities. I think this is something that we ALL should be contributing to... it shouldn't be voluntary... like do I choose to help the kids who need help or do I help the starving people in Africa or do I try to help out people living on the street? It's disgusting that this simply depends on the generosity of people... cos it's the credit crunch. I've always had my own charities that I give to, until now... cos I'm almost a charity case myself... but how could I forgive myself for not helping a child rape victim cos I chose to save an African kid from starving instead? It's disgusting.

soulsinging

Heineken Helen wrote:

Ok, I understand that this is something you and others feel strongly about... but ya know what, so do I! Of course it should not happen in the first place but I find it hard to agree that the help should not be there without resorting to charities. I think this is something that we ALL should be contributing to... it shouldn't be voluntary... like do I choose to help the kids who need help or do I help the starving people in Africa or do I try to help out people living on the street? It's disgusting that this simply depends on the generosity of people... cos it's the credit crunch. I've always had my own charities that I give to, until now... cos I'm almost a charity case myself... but how could I forgive myself for not helping a child rape victim cos I chose to save an African kid from starving instead? It's disgusting.

Well since we're going to the lengths of just saying that government should offer every service that anyone ever asks for regardless of cost, why not just say that people should stop raping kids? Both are equally practical.

Heineken Helen

soulsinging wrote:

Heineken Helen wrote:

Ok, I understand that this is something you and others feel strongly about... but ya know what, so do I! Of course it should not happen in the first place but I find it hard to agree that the help should not be there without resorting to charities. I think this is something that we ALL should be contributing to... it shouldn't be voluntary... like do I choose to help the kids who need help or do I help the starving people in Africa or do I try to help out people living on the street? It's disgusting that this simply depends on the generosity of people... cos it's the credit crunch. I've always had my own charities that I give to, until now... cos I'm almost a charity case myself... but how could I forgive myself for not helping a child rape victim cos I chose to save an African kid from starving instead? It's disgusting.

Well since we're going to the lengths of just saying that government should offer every service that anyone ever asks for regardless of cost, why not just say that people should stop raping kids? Both are equally practical.

well yes, they are equally practical.

c'mon though... the thought of a CHILD being raped.. (I don't even like typing it again :oops: ) well it's pretty much the worst imaginable thought and I simply think the help should BE there for something like this. I don't understand how people can disagree. Cos I mentioned the credit crunch, charities are gonna struggle too cos people just can't afford to give at the mo... so what happens then? Nothing? Poor little Sophie just has to put up with it? :(

soulsinging

Heineken Helen wrote:

soulsinging wrote:

Well since we're going to the lengths of just saying that government should offer every service that anyone ever asks for regardless of cost, why not just say that people should stop raping kids? Both are equally practical.

well yes, they are equally practical.

c'mon though... the thought of a CHILD being raped.. (I don't even like typing it again :oops: ) well it's pretty much the worst imaginable thought and I simply think the help should BE there for something like this. I don't understand how people can disagree. Cos I mentioned the credit crunch, charities are gonna struggle too cos people just can't afford to give at the mo... so what happens then? Nothing? Poor little Sophie just has to put up with it? :(

1. I'm reasonably sure things will happen and government does have resources to deal with this sort of thing, but that they aren't always perfect and charities fill in the holes. I'm not even sure what charity is doing for "Sophie" that government is not.

2. What happens then is what has happened in every human society since the beginning of civilization: cruelty, pain, death, suffering, and bad shit happening to good and innocent people. Welcome to reality.

vduboise

The question is how much of your salary are you willing to give up to the govt? Not all your monies are going to things that you may want it to go to. Helping charities is a way to direct where you want your money to go.

Most people are not willing to give up 30% or more to the govt. they got bills and lives to pay for.

The best you can do it give what you can , and hope for the best

libragirl

I regularly give to St. Jude's Children Hospital. The families who go there cannot afford the medical treatment their children need and I feel good that I can help, as little as it is..at least I care.

Irish Al

Helen, I dont think you're getting the points that are being made here, people arent attacking you, they are just saying that unfortunately govt cannot provide all the answers (be they monitary or not), and thus people who care, feel the desire to try and give a little extra to help. Yes in an ideal world all our taxes would cover the cost of providing all the needs of the people but they dont. Govt put a lot of money both directly and indirectly to provide necessary facilities but it will never be enough. If every person gave their full wage packet to the govt, people, sadly, will still be abused and hurt, I wish there was some way to prevent this but there isnt. The structure of our society ensures the need for charities....so lets support them.

Everyone agrees that children should not be harmed but they are and charities are needed...end of :roll: