Oscars

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Heineken Helen wrote:

what a load of shite... I've said most of these opinions elsewhere but gonna gel them into one post so as not to derail any other threads.

Anyway, it looks like this season we should all be wearing wedding dresses and straps are a sin. That's all I got from the fashion side of things.

Heath only won because he's dead... that Oscar belongs to Phillip Seymour Hoffman and I'm sure he knows it.

Milk was a great story made primarily so those involved could win oscars... it reeked of desperately wanting oscars at times.

Slumdog was simply a GOOD movie... rachel getting married, doubt and even gran torino were better.

Kate Winslet??? Seriously???? Meryl Streep put in the performance of her life... Anne Hathaway would melt anyone to TEARS with her portrayal... and they give it to one of the most overrated actresses of our generation??? :roll:

Urgh... I'm pissed off... did In Bruges win at least???

hahahahahaa!! I said the same thing about Ledger, and Streep. I was mighty pleased by Penelope Cruz' win however, and I thought her dress was gorgeous. but then, I get a bit crush-wet from the thought of Penelope...god how I love the black eyed beauties...hahahaha

mensane

wow. you guys are pretty passionate about this stuff.

my thoughts.

-Meryl Streep has won two Oscars- one for lead actress and one for supporting

-I think Kate Winslet won because she had TWO amazing performances this year. I havent seen The Reader, but I did see Revolutionary Road and she was extraordinary.

-I havent seen Milk. Sean Penn's voice in the movie sounds too much like his voice in I Am Sam. I didnt think I could get past that impression, so I didnt watch it. He may have been great in it. Fine.

-Even if Mickey Rourke was fantastic in The Wrestler, I think the Academy voters may have been worried that this movie was a fluke, and that he would just drop out of sight again. He is going to need another outstanding performance for people to actually believe that he is really "back".

-I think it is easier for voters to give relative newcomers Oscars for supporting roles, because they want to see what else the actor/actress has in them. Which is why Anne Hathaway didn't really have a shot...which is why Heath Ledger didnt win for Brokeback Mountain. He probably would have been a contender for his Dark Knight role even if he were alive, so I think it was right to give him the Oscar for it.

-I thought it was odd that only 3 songs were nominated for best song.

-I was THRILLED that Slumdog Millionaire won Best Picture. It was definitely my favorite movie of the year. Unlike all the other movies in the category, it didnt seem like it was made specifically to win awards. It just wanted to be made. I laughed, I cried, I cheered....that's a good movie. If Benjamin Button would have won, I would never have watched another Academy Awards show ever.

soulsinging

mensane wrote:

-I was THRILLED that Slumdog Millionaire won Best Picture. It was definitely my favorite movie of the year. Unlike all the other movies in the category, it didnt seem like it was made specifically to win awards. It just wanted to be made. I laughed, I cried, I cheered....that's a good movie. If Benjamin Button would have won, I would never have watched another Academy Awards show ever.

I completely agree. It was the least pretentious and most genuinely enjoyable movie-going experience of the year. I felt the same way about Once last year.

Porchsitter

Heineken Helen wrote:

Porchsitter wrote:

I agree for the most part except for Winslet. Her performance in "The Reader" was phenomenal as well as in "Reservation Road." Meryl Streep ALWAYS puts on the performance of a lifetime. Hell, she shines in even the worst movies (Death Becomes Her, She-Devil). Any other year I would've said she flat out deserved it, but Kate deserved it just a bit more this year. Penn is the same way. The guy just blows away in any role he's in and it was no different in his portrayal of Milk, but I'm sorry. The Academy got it wrong this year. Rourke deserved it more. Just my opinion.

I haven't actually seen either of Kates performances this year so I probably shouldn't really comment. Streep should have BAGS of oscars by this stage have you seen Rachel getting married though? Anne Hathaway surprised me by being absolutely FANTASTIC.

Sorry. I am late to respond to this, but no, unfortunately, I have yet to see "Rachel Getting Married," but I really want to. The things I've heard about Hathaway's acting job in that movie is nothing short of amazing. I understand about being upset about certain movies/actors winning the Academy Award. I wasn't happy last year when "No Country" won. Not that I didn't like it. I thought it was the second best movie of the year just behind "There Will Be Blood." Either way, the Academy finds a way every year to disappoint me in one way or another, and I'm growing used to it by now. The thing I keep reminding myself is that the Oscar is an industry award and, therefore, more of a popularity award rather than a critical award.

soulsinging

Porchsitter wrote:

Heineken Helen wrote:

Porchsitter wrote:

I agree for the most part except for Winslet. Her performance in "The Reader" was phenomenal as well as in "Reservation Road." Meryl Streep ALWAYS puts on the performance of a lifetime. Hell, she shines in even the worst movies (Death Becomes Her, She-Devil). Any other year I would've said she flat out deserved it, but Kate deserved it just a bit more this year. Penn is the same way. The guy just blows away in any role he's in and it was no different in his portrayal of Milk, but I'm sorry. The Academy got it wrong this year. Rourke deserved it more. Just my opinion.

I haven't actually seen either of Kates performances this year so I probably shouldn't really comment. Streep should have BAGS of oscars by this stage have you seen Rachel getting married though? Anne Hathaway surprised me by being absolutely FANTASTIC.

Sorry. I am late to respond to this, but no, unfortunately, I have yet to see "Rachel Getting Married," but I really want to. The things I've heard about Hathaway's acting job in that movie is nothing short of amazing. I understand about being upset about certain movies/actors winning the Academy Award. I wasn't happy last year when "No Country" won. Not that I didn't like it. I thought it was the second best movie of the year just behind "There Will Be Blood." Either way, the Academy finds a way every year to disappoint me in one way or another, and I'm growing used to it by now. The thing I keep reminding myself is that the Oscar is an industry award and, therefore, more of a popularity award rather than a critical award.

If that was true, Dark Knight would have won best picture... it was hands down the most popular movie of last year.

I know we all have our favorites, but just because yours doesn't win doesn't mean the academy isn't generally picking based on quality rather than popularity. For every person that thinks There Will Be Blood was the best movie, there were 2 that say No Country... it's subjective. Them disagreeing with what YOU think was the best movie doesn't affect its credibility.

Porchsitter

soulsinging wrote:

If that was true, Dark Knight would have won best picture... it was hands down the most popular movie of last year.

I know we all have our favorites, but just because yours doesn't win doesn't mean the academy isn't generally picking based on quality rather than popularity. For every person that thinks There Will Be Blood was the best movie, there were 2 that say No Country... it's subjective. Them disagreeing with what YOU think was the best movie doesn't affect its credibility.

Not necessarily. While I agree that the "Dark Knight" was the most popular movie of the summer, it wasn't the most popular movie at the end of the year (not enough to deserve a nomination) and that's the difference. It was definitely a favorite, but come the end of the year it was a different story. The Academy does tend to choose those movies that are released at the end of the year and eschew those released earlier, and that generally includes performances as well. I think that does call into question the credibility of the Academy at least a little bit.

soulsinging

Porchsitter wrote:

soulsinging wrote:

If that was true, Dark Knight would have won best picture... it was hands down the most popular movie of last year.

I know we all have our favorites, but just because yours doesn't win doesn't mean the academy isn't generally picking based on quality rather than popularity. For every person that thinks There Will Be Blood was the best movie, there were 2 that say No Country... it's subjective. Them disagreeing with what YOU think was the best movie doesn't affect its credibility.

Not necessarily. While I agree that the "Dark Knight" was the most popular movie of the summer, it wasn't the most popular movie at the end of the year (not enough to deserve a nomination) and that's the difference. It was definitely a favorite, but come the end of the year it was a different story. The Academy does tend to choose those movies that are released at the end of the year and eschew those released earlier, and that generally includes performances as well. I think that does call into question the credibility of the Academy at least a little bit.

I don't think that's true... studios save their "critic friendly" movies for this time of year. So it's difficult to gauge what's causing what. Summer is for blockbusters, winter is for the award plays.

Porchsitter

soulsinging wrote:

Porchsitter wrote:

soulsinging wrote:

If that was true, Dark Knight would have won best picture... it was hands down the most popular movie of last year.

I know we all have our favorites, but just because yours doesn't win doesn't mean the academy isn't generally picking based on quality rather than popularity. For every person that thinks There Will Be Blood was the best movie, there were 2 that say No Country... it's subjective. Them disagreeing with what YOU think was the best movie doesn't affect its credibility.

Not necessarily. While I agree that the "Dark Knight" was the most popular movie of the summer, it wasn't the most popular movie at the end of the year (not enough to deserve a nomination) and that's the difference. It was definitely a favorite, but come the end of the year it was a different story. The Academy does tend to choose those movies that are released at the end of the year and eschew those released earlier, and that generally includes performances as well. I think that does call into question the credibility of the Academy at least a little bit.

I don't think that's true... studios save their "critic friendly" movies for this time of year. So it's difficult to gauge what's causing what. Summer is for blockbusters, winter is for the award plays.

Agreed. However, I still say this isn't always the case, and that certain films get the shaft b/c they are released earlier than the rest. I understand that there are times where it comes down to whatever's freshest in our minds, but that alone makes my case that calls the Academy into question. That excuse takes the objectivity away completely. For an awards ceremony that bills itself as choosing THE "Best Picture" of the year, it certainly brings up a lot of questions and a lot to be desired.

Of course, arguing this point reminds me of arguing about the validity of the BCS or who should win the Heisman. This type of bias is seen everywhere you look and is the real reason why the media loves this type of stuff.

davidtrios

How did life of pi win all of those awards but not best picture? it was clearly the best film of the year!

stickfig13

davidtrios wrote:

How did life of pi win all of those awards but not best picture? it was clearly the best film of the year!

You didn't see it did you?

davidtrios

stickfig13 wrote:

davidtrios wrote:

How did life of pi win all of those awards but not best picture? it was clearly the best film of the year!

You didn't see it did you?

i saw 8/9 of the noms (minus les miz)

stickfig13

davidtrios wrote:

stickfig13 wrote:

davidtrios wrote:

How did life of pi win all of those awards but not best picture? it was clearly the best film of the year!

You didn't see it did you?

i saw 8/9 of the noms (minus les miz)

Well then we clearly disagree because Life of Pi was best picture like Avatar wasn't. Lots of CGI magic, but a very meh movie

covered in bliss

Very annoyed with the Obama appearance for best picture. Two thumbs down. :nono:

For the record, I would've been equally annoyed with a republican appearance. It just didn't 'fit' with the whole evening overall.

davidtrios

"stickfig13 wrote:

Well then we clearly disagree because Life of Pi was best picture like Avatar wasn't. Lots of CGI magic, but a very meh movie

CGI was the best part of the film...ive never seen creativity like that EVER. what a work of art, a masterpiece! plus, the story was amazing. it was cast away on steroids.

JonnyPistachio

davidtrios wrote:

"stickfig13 wrote:

Well then we clearly disagree because Life of Pi was best picture like Avatar wasn't. Lots of CGI magic, but a very meh movie

CGI was the best part of the film...ive never seen creativity like that EVER. what a work of art, a masterpiece! plus, the story was amazing. it was cast away on steroids.

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I thought Pi blew away all the others too.

tsk, another year and I wasnt even nominated for anything. When will the academy learn?

davidtrios

JonnyPistachio wrote:

davidtrios wrote:

"stickfig13 wrote:

Well then we clearly disagree because Life of Pi was best picture like Avatar wasn't. Lots of CGI magic, but a very meh movie

CGI was the best part of the film...ive never seen creativity like that EVER. what a work of art, a masterpiece! plus, the story was amazing. it was cast away on steroids.

I thought Pi blew away all the others too.

tsk, another year and I wasnt even nominated for anything. When will the academy learn?[/quote][/quote][/quote]

snubbed again for the best nut category?

JonnyPistachio

davidtrios wrote:

snubbed again for the best nut category?

ooh, I dunno, lots of competition in that department. Maybe best supporting role (next to beer)