You wish she was yours, don't you? Tell the truth.
Maybe you secretly want her, that's why it's bothering you so much...and your friend can sense it so he doesn't even want to discuss it with you? possible?
I think that is part of it...
A couple of other points that I thought of when reading your post (the OP):
1) As a friend, you are absolutely in your right to call him out for being a jackass... If I did something stupid, I would hope my best friend tells me that I did.
2) After telling him that he is an immature jackass, DROP IT... You said your piece, now move on... Don't become a nag about it... Because,
3) ...he can date whoever he wants or go out or break up with a girl for whatever reason... it's his relationship, and doesn't have to explain himself to you. I have a fiend who always get into bad relationships, but those are the kind of girls that he is attracted to, so that's his problem.
4) And finally, this girl is telling you her side but he isn't saying a word about it... chances are there is more to the story than what she is telling you... Like most relationships, there are three sides.... her side, his side and the truth.
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
It's not about you...and no matter how much you WANT it to be, it's not...and just because YOU like them both and you can see that they're SHOULD be together, they CAN'T....and you've just got to roll with it.
Yep, if you want his side... want it because you want to help him... not cos you want to know or cos you want to let her know or whatever.
Maybe just say 'I know you're going through a tough time and I really wish you'd talk to me, but if you don't want to, just know that I'm going to be here for you too. I don't want you to feel like I'm taking her side cos you're my best friend and I love ya and I just don't want you to be making a big mistake... now let's get drunk'
THAT would work for me.
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It's not about you...and no matter how much you WANT it to be, it's not...and just because YOU like them both and you can see that they're SHOULD be together, they CAN'T....and you've just got to roll with it.
Yep, if you want his side... want it because you want to help him... not cos you want to know or cos you want to let her know or whatever.
Maybe just say 'I know you're going through a tough time and I really wish you'd talk to me, but if you don't want to, just know that I'm going to be here for you too. I don't want you to feel like I'm taking her side cos you're my best friend and I love ya and I just don't want you to be making a big mistake... now let's get drunk'
THAT would work for me.
...or if you're Harvey Milk and you're hoping your buddy will give you a quick reach around
If a guy friend ever said anything like that to me, I'd assume the reason he wants to know is he's hoping I'll tell him I broke it off because I'm gay and secretly want him.
...."I know you're going through a tough time and I really wish you'd talk to me, but if you don't want to, just know that I'm going to be here for you too."....
That right there, that's the exact sentence where I'd think he's hitting on me.
...."I know you're going through a tough time and I really wish you'd talk to me, but if you don't want to, just know that I'm going to be here for you too."....
That right there, that's the exact sentence where I'd think he's hitting on me.
You're forgetting... these guys are American sorry op.
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It sounds like you're already more involved than you should be. Ultimately, though, it is between the two of them. Be supportive of each of them, but it isn't your place to try to influence their feelings one way or the other.
It just doesn't matter if you think your friend's reasons for wanting out are valid or not. Keep in mind that he may have reasons beyond what he has told you. Maybe he just wants to be on his own, and there is nothing wrong with that.
...."I know you're going through a tough time and I really wish you'd talk to me, but if you don't want to, just know that I'm going to be here for you too."....
That right there, that's the exact sentence where I'd think he's hitting on me.
You're forgetting... these guys are American sorry op.
Exactly, we're American. Guys don't say fruity shit like that to each other here.
i would stay out of it unless they asked your opinion. period. and if they do ask your opinion, tread lightly b/c you're friends with both of them. if you open your mouth, it could get messy fast & you could offend/alienate one or both of them.
if it were me & they asked my opinion, i would stay out of it & say that "that's between you two & none of my business."
Exactly, we're American. Guys don't say fruity shit like that to each other here.
Lol, ok... maybe my suggestion was SLIGHTLY gay but I really meant the op could translate that into manspeak and take it from there something like 'so this bitch fucked you up... cmon dude... let's go to the bar and get you laid' or whatever it is men prefer to say in situations like this
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Exactly, we're American. Guys don't say fruity shit like that to each other here.
Lol, ok... maybe my suggestion was SLIGHTLY gay but I really meant the op could translate that into manspeak and take it from there something like 'so this bitch fucked you up... cmon dude... let's go to the bar and get you laid' or whatever it is men prefer to say in situations like this
That's a bit better. The best translation would be "Dude, all I'm going to say is she was a cool chick man. You better be sure about this before you fuck things up with her, cause not many bitches are going to put up with your dumb ass like she does. That said, you're single now, so let's go hit the bars. It's college night at X place and you know the girls there are looking to get some experimental education."
Exactly, we're American. Guys don't say fruity shit like that to each other here.
Lol, ok... maybe my suggestion was SLIGHTLY gay but I really meant the op could translate that into manspeak and take it from there something like 'so this bitch fucked you up... cmon dude... let's go to the bar and get you laid' or whatever it is men prefer to say in situations like this
That's a bit better. The best translation would be "Dude, all I'm going to say is she was a cool chick man. You better be sure about this before you fuck things up with her, cause not many bitches are going to put up with your dumb ass like she does. That said, you're single now, so let's go hit the bars. It's college night at X place and you know the girls there are looking to get some experimental education."
well that's not much different from what I said... just more longwinded... do men say things like 'that said... '?
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Verona??? it's all surmountable
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What a different life
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That's a bit better. The best translation would be "Dude, all I'm going to say is she was a cool chick man. You better be sure about this before you fuck things up with her, cause not many bitches are going to put up with your dumb ass like she does. That said, you're single now, so let's go hit the bars. It's college night at X place and you know the girls there are looking to get some experimental education."
well that's not much different from what I said... just more longwinded... do men say things like 'that said... '?
Yeah, it's a good way to get away from sappy crap. Other acceptable transitions include "ok, enough sentimental bullshit" or "eh, fuck it."
And it's very different from what you said... you used the L-word. Guys do not EVER, under any circumstances, say that to each other. Nor do you ever say something about being there for each other. It's just understood in guys code... we're not chicks and we don't need the constant validation and reassurance Nor do you ever say you wish another man would talk more... again, that's for chicks. Men prefer silence, or at best, talking shit about sporting events. Telling another man you want to talk about feelings is potentially even more alarming than hearing your gf ask if something that makes her look fat.
yeh hels, soulsinging pretty much has it spot on. thats a pretty transcontinental lingo between us menfolk. I have gay friends that dont even talk to me like that. They still are you know, "like, dude, all im saying is you could do better, or whatever"...and you'll say "cheers, dude"....there'll be a moment silence and someone will make a joke...or something. you get the gist!
and even when something SLIGHTLY non-masculine is said, you have to make a joke afterwards, then laugh. farting is another way we move things along, because thats always a bit of a laugh. especially if in public. the conversation will never end on the serious note.
ive had the L word used, but only fleetingly...and its followed by the behaviour as described above
just a random thought from a newbie and maybe i am just stupid and out of line here but I stopped reading when he said he drank with him almost every night.
just a random thought from a newbie and maybe i am just stupid and out of line here but I stopped reading when he said he drank with him almost every night.
i stopped reading when i realized he wasnt banging his buddys girlfriend.....
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just a random thought from a newbie and maybe i am just stupid and out of line here but I stopped reading when he said he drank with him almost every night.
i stopped reading when i realized he wasnt banging his buddys girlfriend.....
hehehehehehehehe.....................
+1 You read my mind! Hehehe
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Sometimes things just do not work out. For what ever reason they are most likely better being apart.
He seems uninterested and she seems needy.
Let the chips fall where they may.
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I think that is part of it...
A couple of other points that I thought of when reading your post (the OP):
1) As a friend, you are absolutely in your right to call him out for being a jackass... If I did something stupid, I would hope my best friend tells me that I did.
2) After telling him that he is an immature jackass, DROP IT... You said your piece, now move on... Don't become a nag about it... Because,
3) ...he can date whoever he wants or go out or break up with a girl for whatever reason... it's his relationship, and doesn't have to explain himself to you. I have a fiend who always get into bad relationships, but those are the kind of girls that he is attracted to, so that's his problem.
4) And finally, this girl is telling you her side but he isn't saying a word about it... chances are there is more to the story than what she is telling you... Like most relationships, there are three sides.... her side, his side and the truth.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Maybe just say 'I know you're going through a tough time and I really wish you'd talk to me, but if you don't want to, just know that I'm going to be here for you too. I don't want you to feel like I'm taking her side cos you're my best friend and I love ya and I just don't want you to be making a big mistake... now let's get drunk'
THAT would work for me.
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
...or if you're Harvey Milk and you're hoping your buddy will give you a quick reach around
If a guy friend ever said anything like that to me, I'd assume the reason he wants to know is he's hoping I'll tell him I broke it off because I'm gay and secretly want him.
That right there, that's the exact sentence where I'd think he's hitting on me.
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
It just doesn't matter if you think your friend's reasons for wanting out are valid or not. Keep in mind that he may have reasons beyond what he has told you. Maybe he just wants to be on his own, and there is nothing wrong with that.
Let him move on if that's what he wants.
Exactly, we're American. Guys don't say fruity shit like that to each other here.
if it were me & they asked my opinion, i would stay out of it & say that "that's between you two & none of my business."
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Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
That's a bit better. The best translation would be "Dude, all I'm going to say is she was a cool chick man. You better be sure about this before you fuck things up with her, cause not many bitches are going to put up with your dumb ass like she does. That said, you're single now, so let's go hit the bars. It's college night at X place and you know the girls there are looking to get some experimental education."
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Yeah, it's a good way to get away from sappy crap. Other acceptable transitions include "ok, enough sentimental bullshit" or "eh, fuck it."
And it's very different from what you said... you used the L-word. Guys do not EVER, under any circumstances, say that to each other. Nor do you ever say something about being there for each other. It's just understood in guys code... we're not chicks and we don't need the constant validation and reassurance
and even when something SLIGHTLY non-masculine is said, you have to make a joke afterwards, then laugh. farting is another way we move things along, because thats always a bit of a laugh. especially if in public. the conversation will never end on the serious note.
ive had the L word used, but only fleetingly...and its followed by the behaviour as described above
+1 as a best friend you should know when to step out, give him sim space.
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Why not (V) (°,,,,°) (V) ?
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Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
+1 You read my mind! Hehehe
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Why not (V) (°,,,,°) (V) ?
He seems uninterested and she seems needy.
Let the chips fall where they may.
or she could do this.......