Obama stops uss cole trials

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  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    gvn2fly74 wrote:
    yeah you are right commy,but IMO I don't think getting your head dunked or loud music, sleep deprivation constitutes as torture. :x
    Look into waterboarding. It is not as innocent :roll: as having your head dunked. It's fucking disgusting, and would be absolutely horrifying. Anyone that can do that to another human, 'on orders', or giving them, should be on trial.
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    gvn2fly74 wrote:
    SORRY... :x :x but I could give a shit about those scumbags, you think they wouldn't torture us probably not what am I thinking they would just cut our heads off. This country has become a bunch of pussies and its ridiculous. I can't imagine if F.D.R. would have stopped the nueremberg trials there would have been a revolution.

    You don't know that they're scumbags, that's the point. Do you REALLY care about catching the people that bombed the USS Cole? Or do you just want someone to be tortured and killed so that you can feel better about it and who cares if they actually did it? Because it sounds like the latter matters more to you than making sure the REAL bombers are caught and brought to justice.
  • WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    edited February 2009
    gvn2fly74 wrote:
    SORRY... :x :x but I could give a shit about those scumbags, you think they wouldn't torture us probably not what am I thinking they would just cut our heads off. This country has become a bunch of pussies and its ridiculous. I can't imagine if F.D.R. would have stopped the nueremberg trials there would have been a revolution.

    You are the kind of hothead who proclaims to love America and what it supposedly stands for yet would shit on the Constitution in a heartbeat.

    you don't know a thing about me so why don't you go eat a whopper or go make a commercial or something
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  • gvn2fly74 wrote:
    SORRY... :x :x but I could give a shit about those scumbags, you think they wouldn't torture us probably not what am I thinking they would just cut our heads off. This country has become a bunch of pussies and its ridiculous. I can't imagine if F.D.R. would have stopped the nueremberg trials there would have been a revolution.

    You don't know that they're scumbags, that's the point. Do you REALLY care about catching the people that bombed the USS Cole? Or do you just want someone to be tortured and killed so that you can feel better about it and who cares if they actually did it? Because it sounds like the latter matters more to you than making sure the REAL bombers are caught and brought to justice.

    what would you perfer me to call them ,yes I do care about catching the persons responsible No I dont want people to be tortured.let me ask you this how should we interogate them,Im sorry but I dont have any respect for anybody that blow up innocent people.
  • gvn2fly74 wrote:
    yeah you are right commy,but IMO I don't think getting your head dunked or loud music, sleep deprivation constitutes as torture. :x
    Look into waterboarding. It is not as innocent :roll: as having your head dunked. It's fucking disgusting, and would be absolutely horrifying. Anyone that can do that to another human, 'on orders', or giving them, should be on trial.

    I have looked into water boarding and its so suppose to be uncomfortable. would you rather we just give them a lazy boy and whatever else they wanted. You no what else is disgusting? 3000 dead Americans or did you forget about that one? Its probably going to take another terrorist attack to wake you fcks up.
  • CB206820CB206820 Posts: 105
    gvn2fly74 wrote:
    gvn2fly74 wrote:
    SORRY... :x :x but I could give a shit about those scumbags, you think they wouldn't torture us probably not what am I thinking they would just cut our heads off. This country has become a bunch of pussies and its ridiculous. I can't imagine if F.D.R. would have stopped the nueremberg trials there would have been a revolution.

    You don't know that they're scumbags, that's the point. Do you REALLY care about catching the people that bombed the USS Cole? Or do you just want someone to be tortured and killed so that you can feel better about it and who cares if they actually did it? Because it sounds like the latter matters more to you than making sure the REAL bombers are caught and brought to justice.

    what would you perfer me to call them ,yes I do care about catching the persons responsible No I dont want people to be tortured.let me ask you this how should we interogate them,Im sorry but I dont have any respect for anybody that blow up innocent people.
    I have NO respect for people who blow up innocent people.

    I also however, have no respect for ANYONE who would torture someone.
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    Fearmongering works on dumbshits, who woulda known ?!
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    gvn2fly74 wrote:
    gvn2fly74 wrote:
    yeah you are right commy,but IMO I don't think getting your head dunked or loud music, sleep deprivation constitutes as torture. :x
    Look into waterboarding. It is not as innocent :roll: as having your head dunked. It's fucking disgusting, and would be absolutely horrifying. Anyone that can do that to another human, 'on orders', or giving them, should be on trial.

    I have looked into water boarding and its so suppose to be uncomfortable. would you rather we just give them a lazy boy and whatever else they wanted. You no what else is disgusting? 3000 dead Americans or did you forget about that one? Its probably going to take another terrorist attack to wake you fcks up.

    3000 people did not die in the Cole attacks. This is pretty clear evidence to me that you don't care who actually did the Cole attacks... you're just angry and scared about terrorist attacks on this country in general and you want some dead Muslims to make you feel better.
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    gvn2fly74 wrote:
    gvn2fly74 wrote:
    SORRY... :x :x but I could give a shit about those scumbags, you think they wouldn't torture us probably not what am I thinking they would just cut our heads off. This country has become a bunch of pussies and its ridiculous. I can't imagine if F.D.R. would have stopped the nueremberg trials there would have been a revolution.

    You don't know that they're scumbags, that's the point. Do you REALLY care about catching the people that bombed the USS Cole? Or do you just want someone to be tortured and killed so that you can feel better about it and who cares if they actually did it? Because it sounds like the latter matters more to you than making sure the REAL bombers are caught and brought to justice.

    what would you perfer me to call them ,yes I do care about catching the persons responsible No I dont want people to be tortured.let me ask you this how should we interogate them,Im sorry but I dont have any respect for anybody that blow up innocent people.

    I don't give a damn what you call them. I have no respect for those that harm innocents either... which is why you don't torture people. You prove they are guilty, and THEN you punish them. You don't torture them in the hopes that you will find out they are the guilty ones. Because if they are not the guilty ones, you have tortured and harmed an innocent person and you are no better than the terrorists you condemn.
  • O.k. Im going to set the record straight .I want to see some justice for the families of the Cole attacks. This dosent mean I want to see any one tortured or killed. I want to see the persons responsible prosecuted in a military tribunal and then life behind bars. IF THEY ARE FOUND GUILTY. b/c I don't believe in the death penalty :o .When I said 3000 dead I was referring to 911 you got that soulsinging ? :roll: I thought you would have known that b/c you seem more educated then most people that have posted on this thread. Also on of my best Friends dad was killed on 911 and I saw how it effected him. So when I hear about these sort of things I have a tendency to get a little heated.
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    The charges being dropped is a fairly easy concept to understand if you actually read about why they were dropped instead of spouting on about "the Messiah" letting terrorists go free, blah blah. Here are some articles to start ya off, good luck.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29042139/

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/fe ... cole-obama
  • Fearmongering works on dumbshits, who woulda known ?!
    dumb shit ? what does fear mongering even have to do with this. :roll: :roll:
  • The charges being dropped is a fairly easy concept to understand if you actually read about why they were dropped instead of spouting on about "the Messiah" letting terrorists go free, blah blah. Here are some articles to start ya off, good luck.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29042139/

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/fe ... cole-obama
    Charges werent dropped. the trial was suspended, and he's still behind bars, and why dont you chill with the personal attacks ie. dumb shit If you you disagree with me that's fine b/c you are entitled to your opinion but there's no need for name calling :)
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    gvn2fly74 wrote:
    The charges being dropped is a fairly easy concept to understand if you actually read about why they were dropped instead of spouting on about "the Messiah" letting terrorists go free, blah blah. Here are some articles to start ya off, good luck.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29042139/

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/fe ... cole-obama
    Charges werent dropped. the trial was suspended, and he's still behind bars, and why dont you chill with the personal attacks ie. dumb shit If you you disagree with me that's fine b/c you are entitled to your opinion but there's no need for name calling :)

    The charges were dropped. As for dumbshit, I am just sick of people spouting crap like "Obama should be arrested for treason", "I don't think getting your head dunked or loud music, sleep deprivation constitutes as torture","This country has become a bunch of pussies and its ridiculous", and "Its probably going to take another terrorist attack to wake you fcks up" -- then getting upset when someone refers to them in a negative way. I apologize for using the word dumbshit -- I should have been polite and used dunderhead or dolt.
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    gvn2fly74 wrote:
    O.k. Im going to set the record straight .I want to see some justice for the families of the Cole attacks. This dosent mean I want to see any one tortured or killed. I want to see the persons responsible prosecuted in a military tribunal and then life behind bars. IF THEY ARE FOUND GUILTY. b/c I don't believe in the death penalty :o .When I said 3000 dead I was referring to 911 you got that soulsinging ? :roll: I thought you would have known that b/c you seem more educated then most people that have posted on this thread. Also on of my best Friends dad was killed on 911 and I saw how it effected him. So when I hear about these sort of things I have a tendency to get a little heated.

    I know you were referring to 9/11. That was my point. You weren't speaking rationally about a trial for the people that bombed the USS Cole... you descended into ranting about terrorism generally with no logic. I am glad torture and killing is not what you want to see either. All anyone here has said is that we should not be torturing people and that we should be sure we have the right people before we start dishing out torture, trials, and punishment. I get the feeling you agree with that. So I don't see what everyone's problem is here.
  • why thank you soulsinging I appreciate that. I know I have a tendency to rant and get off topic sometimes so I apologize for doing so but I really think and I might be wrong, but people just don't care anymore or maybe some of the posters were to young when 911 happend.I was 27 when it happened and i will never forget the way I felt .I also think some people dont understand the type of people we are dealing with.
  • gvn2fly74 wrote:
    The charges being dropped is a fairly easy concept to understand if you actually read about why they were dropped instead of spouting on about "the Messiah" letting terrorists go free, blah blah. Here are some articles to start ya off, good luck.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29042139/

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/fe ... cole-obama
    Charges werent dropped. the trial was suspended, and he's still behind bars, and why dont you chill with the personal attacks ie. dumb shit If you you disagree with me that's fine b/c you are entitled to your opinion but there's no need for name calling :)

    The charges were dropped. As for dumbshit, I am just sick of people spouting crap like "Obama should be arrested for treason", "I don't think getting your head dunked or loud music, sleep deprivation constitutes as torture","This country has become a bunch of pussies and its ridiculous", and "Its probably going to take another terrorist attack to wake you fcks up" -- then getting upset when someone refers to them in a negative way. I apologize for using the word dumbshit -- I should have been polite and used dunderhead or dolt.

    Okay I agree I shouldnt have said that about obama.That was immature but like I said before If this guy walks and he is guilty somebody is going to have some explaining to do.
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    gvn2fly74 wrote:
    why thank you soulsinging I appreciate that. I know I have a tendency to rant and get off topic sometimes so I apologize for doing so but I really think and I might be wrong, but people just don't care anymore or maybe some of the posters were to young when 911 happend.I was 27 when it happened and i will never forget the way I felt .I also think some people dont understand the type of people we are dealing with.

    I don't know about that. I don't think anyone here was being flippant about the USS Cole and I think they do understand what kind of people we're dealing with... that's why they're very concerned about making sure we don't become like those people. Some of your comments about us being pussies because we don't torture people rubbed them the wrong way... it sounded like you were encouraging the same sort of behavior your were condeming "those kinds of people" for.
  • CB206820CB206820 Posts: 105
    gvn2fly74 wrote:
    why thank you soulsinging I appreciate that. I know I have a tendency to rant and get off topic sometimes so I apologize for doing so but I really think and I might be wrong, but people just don't care anymore or maybe some of the posters were to young when 911 happend.I was 27 when it happened and i will never forget the way I felt .I also think some people dont understand the type of people we are dealing with.

    I don't know about that. I don't think anyone here was being flippant about the USS Cole and I think they do understand what kind of people we're dealing with... that's why they're very concerned about making sure we don't become like those people. Some of your comments about us being pussies because we don't torture people rubbed them the wrong way... it sounded like you were encouraging the same sort of behavior your were condeming "those kinds of people" for.
    Quoted for truth.
  • ajedigeckoajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,430
    gvn2fly74 wrote:
    ajedigecko wrote:
    i can respect the fact the terrorist attacked a military installation, finally. all of the bus stops and coffee shops were becoming cliche.

    it was a ship.. and why would you you say somthing like that :?
    easily said on my part, it took courage to attack the uss cole.

    it takes no courage to attack the defenseless, i may be wrong, but the last time i checked, the uss cole had defenses.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • SolarWorldSolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    Is water borting different than water boarding? Hmmmm :roll:
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