16 Illegals sue, Arizona Rancher...
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http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/fe ... a-rancher/
Okay, kicking the woman...way wrong.
Other then that? The guy deserves a medal.
What gives thes people the right to sue him? They came on HIS private property and they cause damage.
WTF is this liberal world coming too?
They say he violated their civil rights? THEY DONT HAVE ANY!!! THEY ARE HERE ILLEGALLY!!!
Okay, kicking the woman...way wrong.
Other then that? The guy deserves a medal.
What gives thes people the right to sue him? They came on HIS private property and they cause damage.
WTF is this liberal world coming too?
They say he violated their civil rights? THEY DONT HAVE ANY!!! THEY ARE HERE ILLEGALLY!!!
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
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lol Electric fence would be a good idea. But I think he owns like 45 Acres or some shit.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
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Hail, Hail!!!
some people have burglar alarms. some have other technology.
...not reading the actual story, but if you're on someone's property illegally... then you'll run into some trouble.
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Then he should be forced to "tithe" 10% of it back to the illegals.
Along with CEO pay caps, we need to institute "Land Caps" as well.
I think we can all agree that somewhere between 25 and 50 acres is ALL one person should need.
How much land does the White House sit on?
Perhaps coming up with some figure based on that,
you know, "no man should have more land than the President does".
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If I opened it now would you not understand?
They sneak across the border knowing they're not supposed to. Somehow I doubt they're going to just read a sign and go "oh, shit, I guess we should go another way!"
Sounds like this guy's just fed up. I got the impression there were established trails he was just turning a blind eye to until it got out of hand and people started fucking with his shit. He even put in a faucet for them to get water. I think he's just had enough, and I don't blame him.
Here's a place to start...
How about Arizona coming down HARD on all of the American citizens in Arizona that HIRE illegals? This would make the trek through Arizona very trecherous. Catch the guy going to the Home Depot in Mesa, AZ. that hires day illegal day laborers to bust out his old driveway as well as the Dennys in Phoenix that hires illegal busboys and cooks. Crackdown and sieze the property of Arizona farmers and ranchers that hire illegals. Go after the root cause of the border crossings instead of trying to slolve the symptoms that are the border crossings. Punish the criminal Americans as well as the illegal immigrants... even the ones whom hire illegals for one day to clear the brush on their property.
No jobs... no illegals... no problem.
Hail, Hail!!!
Personally I think he showed a great deal of restraint. He has had his house broken into, livestock killed, had to clean up the garbage (human waste) that these vermin have left behind. Sounds to me like he has a great hobby. I'm sure you haven't had to stop 12,000 people from trespassing on your property though so maybe he is not being excessive at all.
The other real problem is the scumbag lawyer and spineless judge that allow this case to continue.
It's no different than a home invasion robbery, only the land is vast, as the story states a range of 300 acres.
Its' truly a shame that these people feel there's more opportunity for them here, but they must enter our country thru legal means, because when someone is here illegally, they are essentially like a fugitive, anyhow. He or she has no rights on the street nor will they have rights in a Civil court.
In cities, when legitimate U.S. citizens who are predatorial, such as gang members, go into neighborhoods where non documented people live and wreak havoc on their lives. That is not what I would call freedom or humane living.
I do know that if you are non documented and have a court case pending here in the states, the Gov't will keep you as long as your appearence is required.
May we hope that some good will come out of this scenario. Peace.
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I'm guessing that is what will happen. This has all the makings of a publicity stunt.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
Uhh...what? Maybe if the "vermin" illegals were Native Americans who historically had inhabited North America. Correct me if I'm wrong, but they were hispanic people from Mexico.
Really.....not that it really matters but to play this game...do you know the "vermin" illegals were indeed spanish decendants? Been to Mexico? I'd bet the "vermin" had closer "family" ties to native American Indians than that ole white boy rancher....wadya think.
What makes us so special to think we're the ones, the chosen ones for this land. Only reason the ole rancher and most of us are here and have what we have is simply where our parents copulated...we're not special. Just freakin lucky.
The humans that decide to leave their home countries, family, social structure, norms to make better lives for themselves, risking death have more balls than most Americans. And as was posted earlier in the thread..its the good ole white folks that frequent establishments that hire illegals, have affordable housing due to cheap labor...have their yards cut, cars washed...its all the pull....we need to stop blaming illegals for anything..its all us folks..look in the mirror.
Do apologize attmpting to dispell that warm fuzzy, "I'm so special" feeling.
No need for you to apologize since I dont' have a warm "I'm so special" feeling to begin with. Far from it, however, I would probably be more sympathetic to the illegals if they didn't damage this guy's property. Whether you like it or not, there is a process for people to enter the United States legally, and until that process is changed, illegals will be illegals and I will not feel so bad for them if they choose to enter unlawfully. The difference between people like this white rancher and the people entering from mexico is that this rancher's ancestors entered the country through the legal procedures, so yeah, he's lucky. Lucky his ancestors decided to go about it the lawful way.
So let me get this straight, people that descended from the Spanish have closer ties to the Native Americans as opposed to others of European descent? And these same Spanish were NEVER oppressive to the natives they found when they first arrived?
I do agree, that the focus should be on the places that hire illegals, though.
You do realize even though Mexicans speak spanish they aren't all direct ancestors of spain....far from it....ever notice how many Mexicans look like Native Americans and not like someone from spain??? May want to ditch watching telemundo....doesn't represent mexican population....look at all the "vermin" cutting your grass.
What happened in the past is unfortunate, but it happened. It happened in Mexico too, for that matter.
And yes, the white man DID enter this country legally. When the white man came over and slaughtered the natives it wasn't the United States; it was Indian land then. I recognize that it's sad that this happened, but the way things stand now, this is the United States.
You assume too much in thinking that I haven't read up on history other than what was fed to me in school. You also assume too much when you project an image onto me about how I "must" believe our conduct in the past was acceptable just because I don't completely agree with you on this.
I realize that but judging from what you said earlier, when you questioned me as to whether or not I knew the illegals were of spanish descent, you did not.
Good god man, your arrogance just astounds me. Again you assume that I even watch TV; that last sentence of yours is just simply asanine. I live in North Fucking Dakota: I cut my own god damned lawn (Well actually, it's not mine since I don't own it, but I still have to cut it nonetheless).
My post was a bit harsh...wasnt' really intended...and wasn't directed to at you per se...but to all Americans that use selective romanticized thoughts of the past to feel better about our history and existence. USA USA USA USA
Was cruising through central Texas yesterday and when I do like to listen to local small town radio stations....had a Christian channel discussing how the founding fathers intended this country to be "Christian Based" and that Columbus got the idea of coming to this continent by God.....just started laughing...yep God wanted you to come here and anialate (sp?) a people..woo hoo.
Yeah, it may surprise you, but I share your sentiments in this post.
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Land caps :roll: why dont we just start a socialistic govt? I guess you don't beleive in free enterprise.
why should he be forced to give it back? He payed for it. besides ,Its not even part of mexico :roll: Why dont you give up 10% of your property :roll: