anybody else pretty much hate everyone at the moment?

Heineken Helen

I do... seems everyone just wants to talk bullshit or take the piss or make penis jokes... CONSTANTLY. I've tried to like them but I'm pretty sure some of them don't like me anyway and I'm not gonna MAKE them like me since I don't like them anyway. Ahhh.. I'm rambling :oops: anyway, fuck them all!

Lizard

I hate the WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil: :evil:

Happy Hour in 45 minutes!!

jamie uk

I don't hate everyone Hels......everyone hates me
I'm such a c***, did you know ?

Heineken Helen

Lizard wrote:

I hate the WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil: :evil:

Happy Hour in 45 minutes!!

well if it was happy hour HERE, I'd PRETEND to love everybody.

Heineken Helen

jamie uk wrote:

I don't hate everyone Hels......everyone hates me
I'm such a c***, did you know ?

I just noticed good going by the way! You manage to piss people off without even posting a word on the board they're pissed off ON

but yeh, I've tried for 4 months to get on with the bf's friends... a couple of them are LOVELY, really top people, but they happen to come along with the people who make constant penis jokes and everyone thinks they're hilarious :? I've just got to the point now where I can no longer be bothered pretending to like them... and I think the time is gonna come soon where it shows :oops: cos I'm shit at hiding crap like that.

jamie uk

Heineken Helen wrote:

jamie uk wrote:

I don't hate everyone Hels......everyone hates me
I'm such a c***, did you know ?

I just noticed good going by the way! You manage to piss people off without even posting a word on the board they're pissed off ON

but yeh, I've tried for 4 months to get on with the bf's friends... a couple of them are LOVELY, really top people, but they happen to come along with the people who make constant penis jokes and everyone thinks they're hilarious :? I've just got to the point now where I can no longer be bothered pretending to like them... and I think the time is gonna come soon where it shows :oops: cos I'm shit at hiding crap like that.

Ay, I went there to explain that they were all going crazy about nothing....I think it was great work by Emerlin just a handful of....well, you know....and good god have they under lined the point there

Anyway your problem, not an easy one. All you can do is try ignore, and be polite I guess, otherwise it will cause lots of hassle with b/f.

Heineken Helen

jamie uk wrote:

Ay, I went there to explain that they were all going crazy about nothing....I think it was great work by Emerlin just a handful of....well, you know....and good god have they under lined the point there

Anyway your problem, not an easy one. All you can do is try ignore, and be polite I guess, otherwise it will cause lots of hassle with b/f.

Nah, it won't... there are other bf's and gf's who only go along some times to be polite but who don't like the core of the group... I know that it's not just me. I'm incapable of ignoring people being stupid :oops: and even the bf gets it... he's not ecstatic... but I've tried... alot... but within the group, there are people who consistently ignore me (and I ignore them back), there are girls who go on about me being their best friend but who don't even have my phone number :oops: ... there are some who are in a bad mood and see me as an easy target cos I'm still a 'newbie'. I guess I've just always got on better with lads and I think that's kinda continuing. I DO actually like them individually... but the problem is that they never come individually :oops: and I've even discussed this with a couple of them and they've agreed :oops: but I have made friends with some of the outsiders.

Evil Merlin Part Deux

But I don't hate you Helen!

Or Jamie uk!

Hmmm...can I just say almost everyone?

Heineken Helen

Evil Merlin Part Deux wrote:

But I don't hate you Helen!

Or Jamie uk!

Hmmm...can I just say almost everyone?

yip yip you can... i know im drunk at the mo... but now i cant even enjoy quiz night... which i loved... but bf stopped going as did his sister, so now it's just me and a couple of nice people who get dragged into the group idiocy :oops: which I just can't bring myself to even pretend to laugh at... so now I've started to stare at the table or into space or something, pretending I've zoned out... but i think a couple of the nice ones have noticed.... cos they try to drag me into the stupid conversation... not realising that it's THAT that's annoying me. One of the grumpy ones even tried making an Irish joke tonight... I just gave him the finger... he certainly doesn't know me well enough to make irish jokes.

libragirl

hmmm...besides the select bunch i currently hate...not really..Im feeling good!

Evil Merlin Part Deux

Heineken Helen wrote:

Evil Merlin Part Deux wrote:

But I don't hate you Helen!

Or Jamie uk!

Hmmm...can I just say almost everyone?

yip yip you can... i know im drunk at the mo... but now i cant even enjoy quiz night... which i loved... but bf stopped going as did his sister, so now it's just me and a couple of nice people who get dragged into the group idiocy :oops: which I just can't bring myself to even pretend to laugh at... so now I've started to stare at the table or into space or something, pretending I've zoned out... but i think a couple of the nice ones have noticed.... cos they try to drag me into the stupid conversation... not realising that it's THAT that's annoying me. One of the grumpy ones even tried making an Irish joke tonight... I just gave him the finger... he certainly doesn't know me well enough to make irish jokes.

Meh...try not to let the annoying bunch ruin it for the rest of us that are lucky enough to be graced by your beauty, wisdom, and wonderful words! Much better when you're happier. Sober the 'f' up and lets start your drunkened tale all over again on a happy note! :P

Cateeto

I'm at this very irritated phase in my life where I'm just tired of a lot of useless drama and bullshit. A lot of it stems from me being brutally honest about everything. It's not even that I'm brutal half the time, but just honest in general. People, for whatever reason, usually their own insecurities, dislike this. Because they dislike the fact that someone can be honest all the time, they dislike me. Because they dislike me, I dislike them... It's not even that I care whether or not they like me, but when people start to talk shit about me and try to paint a horrid picture of what they assume my marriage to be, I start to have issues and begin to hate a lot of people.

Sorry... I'm kind of rambling... But to answer your question, I'm pretty much hating a lot of people at the current moment.

What bugs me the most is that I get along with people fairly well, but that's not good enough for certain people. A girl can't just be herself, be honest, and enjoy life being that way. That's not how life is supposed to be according to a lot of people and it's mainly because they're too weak and dependent to change their own lives to the way they want it... So they take it out on little old me.

Okay. Really. I'm done now haha...

Heineken Helen

Evil Merlin Part Deux wrote:

Heineken Helen wrote:

Evil Merlin Part Deux wrote:

But I don't hate you Helen!

Or Jamie uk!

Hmmm...can I just say almost everyone?

yip yip you can... i know im drunk at the mo... but now i cant even enjoy quiz night... which i loved... but bf stopped going as did his sister, so now it's just me and a couple of nice people who get dragged into the group idiocy :oops: which I just can't bring myself to even pretend to laugh at... so now I've started to stare at the table or into space or something, pretending I've zoned out... but i think a couple of the nice ones have noticed.... cos they try to drag me into the stupid conversation... not realising that it's THAT that's annoying me. One of the grumpy ones even tried making an Irish joke tonight... I just gave him the finger... he certainly doesn't know me well enough to make irish jokes.

Meh...try not to let the annoying bunch ruin it for the rest of us that are lucky enough to be graced by your beauty, wisdom, and wonderful words! Much better when you're happier. Sober the 'f' up and lets start your drunkened tale all over again on a happy note! :P

it'll be a few hours before I sober up... but thank you I'm just going through some kinda phase at the moment :oops: with not working and shit like that, seems everything's going against me :oops: but I know it'll all turn around soon

tybird

Sorry...just not feeling the hate. :(

Heineken Helen

Cateeto wrote:

I'm at this very irritated phase in my life where I'm just tired of a lot of useless drama and bullshit. A lot of it stems from me being brutally honest about everything. It's not even that I'm brutal half the time, but just honest in general. People, for whatever reason, usually their own insecurities, dislike this. Because they dislike the fact that someone can be honest all the time, they dislike me. Because they dislike me, I dislike them... It's not even that I care whether or not they like me, but when people start to talk shit about me and try to paint a horrid picture of what they assume my marriage to be, I start to have issues and begin to hate a lot of people.

Sorry... I'm kind of rambling... But to answer your question, I'm pretty much hating a lot of people at the current moment.

What bugs me the most is that I get along with people fairly well, but that's not good enough for certain people. A girl can't just be herself, be honest, and enjoy life being that way. That's not how life is supposed to be according to a lot of people and it's mainly because they're too weak and dependent to change their own lives to the way they want it... So they take it out on little old me.

Okay. Really. I'm done now haha...

I really really get your first paragraph. I've been getting along with these people for a few months now but one by one I started seeing what they were really like and there are only maybe TWO of them I would choose to be friends with. There are a couple of them that I haven't really liked from the beginning... but they were kinda 'outsiders' anyway so easy to ignore... but I'm starting to see what they're all like.. I don't WANT to dislike them... but I'm not capable of pretending to like somebody who I don't actually like :oops: and I think some of that started to come out tonight. So it's only a matter of time before I either keep away from them altogether or something happens :(

FinsburyParkCarrots

I don't do hate, to be honest.

Heineken Helen

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

I don't do hate, to be honest.

I wish I didn't either :? tbh, there's only ONE guy in particular that I would say I actually HATE... but all he needs is a shag and he will be fine possibly. The rest just aren't my kinda people. There's a lot of fakeness and I can't be dealing with that :oops:

Stone Is God

Cateeto wrote:

I'm at this very irritated phase in my life where I'm just tired of a lot of useless drama and bullshit. A lot of it stems from me being brutally honest about everything. It's not even that I'm brutal half the time, but just honest in general. People, for whatever reason, usually their own insecurities, dislike this. Because they dislike the fact that someone can be honest all the time, they dislike me. Because they dislike me, I dislike them... It's not even that I care whether or not they like me, but when people start to talk shit about me and try to paint a horrid picture of what they assume my marriage to be, I start to have issues and begin to hate a lot of people.

People equate truth with being brutal because the truth hurts. You're in the better state with being honest and not faking it around people. I'm honest all the time with my feelings about things and that's the way it is. People talk shit just to talk shit and I find it's better not to even hate, I just "nothing" them.

in_hiding79

:(

I'm like that a lot these days...

Heineken Helen

Stone Is God wrote:

Cateeto wrote:

I'm at this very irritated phase in my life where I'm just tired of a lot of useless drama and bullshit. A lot of it stems from me being brutally honest about everything. It's not even that I'm brutal half the time, but just honest in general. People, for whatever reason, usually their own insecurities, dislike this. Because they dislike the fact that someone can be honest all the time, they dislike me. Because they dislike me, I dislike them... It's not even that I care whether or not they like me, but when people start to talk shit about me and try to paint a horrid picture of what they assume my marriage to be, I start to have issues and begin to hate a lot of people.

People equate truth with being brutal because the truth hurts. You're in the better state with being honest and not faking it around people. I'm honest all the time with my feelings about things and that's the way it is. People talk shit just to talk shit and I find it's better not to even hate, I just "nothing" them.

oh I HAVE been 'nothing'ing them.. but it's getting hard to even do that at the mo. I'm very familiar with being honest or being brutally honest even, but i've never been in this situation before... cos, to see the nice people, you also have to see the arseholes. :oops:

CHANGEinWAVES

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

I don't do hate, to be honest.

Same here. Hate does more damage to the one 'hating' rather than the hated one.

Stone Is God

Heineken Helen wrote:

Stone Is God wrote:

Cateeto wrote:

I'm at this very irritated phase in my life where I'm just tired of a lot of useless drama and bullshit. A lot of it stems from me being brutally honest about everything. It's not even that I'm brutal half the time, but just honest in general. People, for whatever reason, usually their own insecurities, dislike this. Because they dislike the fact that someone can be honest all the time, they dislike me. Because they dislike me, I dislike them... It's not even that I care whether or not they like me, but when people start to talk shit about me and try to paint a horrid picture of what they assume my marriage to be, I start to have issues and begin to hate a lot of people.

People equate truth with being brutal because the truth hurts. You're in the better state with being honest and not faking it around people. I'm honest all the time with my feelings about things and that's the way it is. People talk shit just to talk shit and I find it's better not to even hate, I just "nothing" them.

oh I HAVE been 'nothing'ing them.. but it's getting hard to even do that at the mo. I'm very familiar with being honest or being brutally honest even, but i've never been in this situation before... cos, to see the nice people, you also have to see the arseholes. :oops:

Is there a way to eliminate the asses from hanging out with the group meaning gathering up the good ones without letting the assholes know what you're doing?

Heineken Helen

Stone Is God wrote:

Heineken Helen wrote:

Stone Is God wrote:

People equate truth with being brutal because the truth hurts. You're in the better state with being honest and not faking it around people. I'm honest all the time with my feelings about things and that's the way it is. People talk shit just to talk shit and I find it's better not to even hate, I just "nothing" them.

oh I HAVE been 'nothing'ing them.. but it's getting hard to even do that at the mo. I'm very familiar with being honest or being brutally honest even, but i've never been in this situation before... cos, to see the nice people, you also have to see the arseholes. :oops:

Is there a way to eliminate the asses from hanging out with the group meaning gathering up the good ones without letting the assholes know what you're doing?

Nope, the group's well established... I'm the newbie.

Heineken Helen

CHANGEinWAVES wrote:

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

I don't do hate, to be honest.

Same here. Hate does more damage to the one 'hating' rather than the hated one.

I'm not trying to 'damage' anyone... nor do i want to. I just happen to hate a guy who's part of the group i hang around with. He's an asshole... there's no liking him. But the rest of the group have known him forever and know how he is... and know that's just how he is... or something :oops:

Stone Is God

Heineken Helen wrote:

CHANGEinWAVES wrote:

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

I don't do hate, to be honest.

Same here. Hate does more damage to the one 'hating' rather than the hated one.

I'm not trying to 'damage' anyone... nor do i want to. I just happen to hate a guy who's part of the group i hang around with. He's an asshole... there's no liking him. But the rest of the group have known him forever and know how he is... and know that's just how he is... or something :oops:

Does everyone else even like hanging with him or do they just tolerate his antics?

soulsinging

Stone Is God wrote:

Cateeto wrote:

I'm at this very irritated phase in my life where I'm just tired of a lot of useless drama and bullshit. A lot of it stems from me being brutally honest about everything. It's not even that I'm brutal half the time, but just honest in general. People, for whatever reason, usually their own insecurities, dislike this. Because they dislike the fact that someone can be honest all the time, they dislike me. Because they dislike me, I dislike them... It's not even that I care whether or not they like me, but when people start to talk shit about me and try to paint a horrid picture of what they assume my marriage to be, I start to have issues and begin to hate a lot of people.

People equate truth with being brutal because the truth hurts. You're in the better state with being honest and not faking it around people. I'm honest all the time with my feelings about things and that's the way it is. People talk shit just to talk shit and I find it's better not to even hate, I just "nothing" them.

The flipside to that is that people often claim they're being "brutally honest" as a cover for being snide or cruel and not having to face the fact that they're being a bitch/bastard and hurting people for no good reason... which is the real source of people not responding well to them, not some aversion to honesty. Women especially are prone to this... OTHER women gossip, I just practice HONESTY.

Heineken Helen

Stone Is God wrote:

Heineken Helen wrote:

I'm not trying to 'damage' anyone... nor do i want to. I just happen to hate a guy who's part of the group i hang around with. He's an asshole... there's no liking him. But the rest of the group have known him forever and know how he is... and know that's just how he is... or something :oops:

Does everyone else even like hanging with him or do they just tolerate his antics?

I'm not 100% sure... but I think they actually DO like him... I really can't see why... but I get the impression they do. e.g. he'll be going on about one of the girls and perving on her and her tough bf will be laughing and I'm kinda thinking if my bf was laughing, I'd have to kick his arse myself. He's one of those who verges on the being gay edge who can get away with being a pervert... but i've noticed for quite a while that he'll simply ignore me... which i'm happy about but there have been obvious references where i've realised 'he just doesn't like me' and that's cool but it never quite made sense.

Heineken Helen

soulsinging wrote:

Stone Is God wrote:

Cateeto wrote:

I'm at this very irritated phase in my life where I'm just tired of a lot of useless drama and bullshit. A lot of it stems from me being brutally honest about everything. It's not even that I'm brutal half the time, but just honest in general. People, for whatever reason, usually their own insecurities, dislike this. Because they dislike the fact that someone can be honest all the time, they dislike me. Because they dislike me, I dislike them... It's not even that I care whether or not they like me, but when people start to talk shit about me and try to paint a horrid picture of what they assume my marriage to be, I start to have issues and begin to hate a lot of people.

People equate truth with being brutal because the truth hurts. You're in the better state with being honest and not faking it around people. I'm honest all the time with my feelings about things and that's the way it is. People talk shit just to talk shit and I find it's better not to even hate, I just "nothing" them.

The flipside to that is that people often claim they're being "brutally honest" as a cover for being snide or cruel and not having to face the fact that they're being a bitch/bastard and hurting people for no good reason... which is the real source of people not responding well to them, not some aversion to honesty. Women especially are prone to this... OTHER women gossip, I just practice HONESTY.

well I'm not a bitch... and I don't hurt people for no good reason. I never gossiped back with the girls but avoided the topic or changed the subject. You don't know me, nor have you met me... so you've NO idea.

Stone Is God

soulsinging wrote:

Stone Is God wrote:

Cateeto wrote:

I'm at this very irritated phase in my life where I'm just tired of a lot of useless drama and bullshit. A lot of it stems from me being brutally honest about everything. It's not even that I'm brutal half the time, but just honest in general. People, for whatever reason, usually their own insecurities, dislike this. Because they dislike the fact that someone can be honest all the time, they dislike me. Because they dislike me, I dislike them... It's not even that I care whether or not they like me, but when people start to talk shit about me and try to paint a horrid picture of what they assume my marriage to be, I start to have issues and begin to hate a lot of people.

People equate truth with being brutal because the truth hurts. You're in the better state with being honest and not faking it around people. I'm honest all the time with my feelings about things and that's the way it is. People talk shit just to talk shit and I find it's better not to even hate, I just "nothing" them.

The flipside to that is that people often claim they're being "brutally honest" as a cover for being snide or cruel and not having to face the fact that they're being a bitch/bastard and hurting people for no good reason... which is the real source of people not responding well to them, not some aversion to honesty. Women especially are prone to this... OTHER women gossip, I just practice HONESTY.

Totally true Soul.

soulsinging

Heineken Helen wrote:

soulsinging wrote:

The flipside to that is that people often claim they're being "brutally honest" as a cover for being snide or cruel and not having to face the fact that they're being a bitch/bastard and hurting people for no good reason... which is the real source of people not responding well to them, not some aversion to honesty. Women especially are prone to this... OTHER women gossip, I just practice HONESTY.

well I'm not a bitch... and I don't hurt people for no good reason. I never gossiped back with the girls but avoided the topic or changed the subject. You don't know me, nor have you met me... so you've NO idea.

I was speaking generally, and in response to someone else's post. Why would you think I was speaking of you?

As to this guy, maybe you shouldn't be so uptight. Every group has a resident pervert and you learn to just not take them seriously. I once hung out with a gay guy that drove a lot of people nuts. He was crude, vulgar, offensive, and everything else. But he was also utterly hilarious once you learned to just deal with him. He also was very standoffish with newcomers, but if they proved they could stick around and not take him personal, he warmed to them and they usually grew to love him too.

Heineken Helen

soulsinging wrote:

Heineken Helen wrote:

well I'm not a bitch... and I don't hurt people for no good reason. I never gossiped back with the girls but avoided the topic or changed the subject. You don't know me, nor have you met me... so you've NO idea.

I was speaking generally, and in response to someone else's post. Why would you think I was speaking of you?

As to this guy, maybe you shouldn't be so uptight. Every group has a resident pervert and you learn to just not take them seriously. I once hung out with a gay guy that drove a lot of people nuts. He was crude, vulgar, offensive, and everything else. But he was also utterly hilarious once you learned to just deal with him. He also was very standoffish with newcomers, but if they proved they could stick around and not take him personal, he warmed to them and they usually grew to love him too.

I'm not one to 'prove myself' to people. Either they like me or they don't ... I can't be bothered with people who needs proving. I don't take anything personally... I just don't like the guy. His sense of humour is ten year old at BEST, but for some reason everyone else laughs... they do, in general, have a bit of a different sense of humour to me. I like crass and I like vulgar... but not 99% of the time... only to a certain extent and then I'm like 'move on MOVE ON'. I'm not uptight... I've given them all 4 months... and some of them are still the same, real stand up people, but he's always been quite moody... IF he's in a good mood, he's alright... but it's rare... and now he's started that when he's in a bad mood, he'll take it out on me. He's certainly not hilarious like your friend... I've pretended to at least smile at his jokes in the past... but when it's the same jokes all the time and CONSTANT penis jokes, my smile starts to hurt.. ya know when you know it's time to stop smiling? So I've stopped and started pretending I've zoned out. I chain smoke in between rounds at the quiz so i can just sit through the rounds and then go away when he's gonna be talking about stupid stuff.