I thought the chanting of ''hey hey goodbye'' by the crowd was a little rude. Like him or not he's the president and you don't do that.
i said it was in poor taste. sure, accurate ...but in poor taste. i agree it's rude. but i was told that a public gathering such as that was one of the only times people get to express themselves. :roll: funny, i thought we did that, a lot more effectively i might add, in the voter's booth.
i think obama was classy, and he's always been classy.....and i like and respect that. bush is a moron and a horror, but none the less....we the people - sadly, shockingly, voted for him 2x...so i agree, he was our president and a wee bit of decorum is a good thing.
but sure, hearing about it did make me smile a bit.
so during the 4 years, you have to pretend to like somebody you didn't vote for???????? I'm sorry but that IS CERTAINLY an american issue. Over here we get to voice our like or dislike at every sporting or public event they attend and it's the way it should be. I don't think somebody who's squandering your money and making shit of your country domestically AND worldwide whilst having hundreds of thousands of people DIE on HIS watch, deserves ANY respect... but I'm sure that's where we simply disagree on this.
sometimes i don't think you even read what you quote. where in the world do you even GET this? where did i say one needs to pretend they like someone, or support someone?
this was the inauguration of our NEW president. it was in his honor, and for us all. i personally do not think it's the time for unclassy displays towards the old president, or anyone honestly. i am all for dissent, vocal dissent......but really, what prupose did it serve? bush is out, he's done, he's gone...this was a day to celebrate the new, to welcome in our new president. he managed to be gracious and still let his thoughts be known, i find that classy. and i have said, numerous times over...bush does not deserve my respect....but the inauguration is not the place to show such disrespect.....out of respect for the process, the ceremony, the presidency itself and our new president...i think being classy is the way to go. you disagre, i get it...but at least don't read things into my posts that aren't even there.
it's obvious we disagree on the appropriateness, but i read what you say in response, and sometimes i just don't think you even see what i am saying. disagree, cool....i am not looking for agreement. dissent is a great thing, but there was nothing to dissent today...so it just imo was a display of poor taste...today should be all about celebrating and working towards the future. that's what i think in any case. i certainly support everyone's right to do as they see fit, not saying what they did was wrong in any sense. being unclassy or in poor taste ain't a crime as far as i know....... :P
What did bush do to promote peace ANYWHERE? I genuinely want to know the answer to that question.
*insert cricket sound effect*
but yeah, hopefully people have patience with obama and realize that things are not going to change overnight. it's gonna take a long time. people tend to be impatient and stupid though, so hopefully they get bopped upside the head lol
To undo what has been done to this country over the last 8 years will take much more than 4 years President Obama now has. It will take more than 8 years to correct this ship. Good luck President Obama, the first and second time I called the guy President.
Peace
Agreed... let's hope people are patient
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well, time and place i suppose. i dunno if it was necessarily appropriate to boo him today at the inaguration...then again when i went to DC last year and took a pic in front of the white house, i wanted to give the finger, but thought perhaps i'd get picked off by a sniper on the roof lol
but yeah, he's certainly earned all the rancor he's gotten. berkeley is busting at the seams with liberals, so i'm used to people talking shit. quite enjoy it lol
that's interesting to hear how bill was received abroad, i always got the impression he got mad respect. i love hilary too
Well of course... the only reason I'd CONSIDER it disrespectful today would be cos today has nothing to do with him... it's obama's day. But i certainly wouldn't feel the need to take any moral high ground over anyone who felt the need to boo him... after all, we've no idea what they've gone through under his 'reign'. Perhaps some of them lost kids in Iraq... I'm sure many of them lost jobs.
and thereya go...THAT was my point.
as to the 'moral high ground'....i just don't even see it. saying on a message board that something done was unclassy or in poor taste, hardly constitues the moral high ground. it's expressing a pov. i certainly, if present, would not say a thing. everyone has the right to express themselves as they see fit...but you bet...i still would think it's in poor taste. if that's the moral high ground, so be it. it's simply how my mind works. and people express themselves in ALL sorts of ways, i and i am sure even a parent who mayv'e lost a child in iraq, or to any war, or someone who lost a job, etc... may not necessarily think it's in good taste to behave as such at the inauguration of a new president....THAT is all conjecture. we all have differing opinions......
Well of course... the only reason I'd CONSIDER it disrespectful today would be cos today has nothing to do with him... it's obama's day. But i certainly wouldn't feel the need to take any moral high ground over anyone who felt the need to boo him... after all, we've no idea what they've gone through under his 'reign'. Perhaps some of them lost kids in Iraq... I'm sure many of them lost jobs.
and thereya go...THAT was my point.
as to the 'moral high ground'....i just don't even see it. saying on a message board that something done was unclassy or in poor taste, hardly constitues the moral high ground. it's expressing a pov. i certainly, if present, would not say a thing. everyone has the right to express themselves as they see fit...but you bet...i still would think it's in poor taste. if that's the moral high ground, so be it. it's simply how my mind works. and people express themselves in ALL sorts of ways, i and i am sure even a parent who mayv'e lost a child in iraq, or to any war, or someone who lost a job, etc... may not necessarily think it's in good taste to behave as such at the inauguration of a new president....THAT is all conjecture. we all have differing opinions......
i agree with you! and yeah, people are gonna do whatever moves them...that's the beauty of freedom of speech. even if one disagrees with said speech
i agree with you! and yeah, people are gonna do whatever moves them...that's the beauty of freedom of speech. even if one disagrees with said speech
exactly.
if it's their *right* to sing...it's my *right* to say it's in poor taste. :P
and not that it all *compares* on scale or importance....but i remember people on this board going on about how disrespectful it was for people to boo, or to walk out on ed/then band. i am thinking of the uniondale show and all that. my first pj show ever, and it was beyond special. now, i did kinda think, again, it was in poor taste...but i also fuilly support anyone's right to boo, to walk out, etc....and this is a damn rock concert, not a national event for all..the inauguration of our new president! i am ALL for freedom of expression, dissent, etc.....i just don't think an inuguarion is the proper time/place...but i also in no way suggest such acts to be stopped, people's rights trampled, etc. and hey, as to the concert...while i cheered....i thought hey, cool, the band had the balls to play bushleaguer and such here, and ed always seemed to support freedom of speech and expression, so he had to expect some dissent. he was noticably pissed, which really i thought was a bit off, you can't expect all to agree with your views, even your fans ...but it was a cool experience all round, and i hope ed saw it as a 'positve'.....and besides, the cheers outweighed the boos.
anyhoo...it all makes for lively discussion and memories!
i agree with you! and yeah, people are gonna do whatever moves them...that's the beauty of freedom of speech. even if one disagrees with said speech
exactly.
if it's their *right* to sing...it's my *right* to say it's in poor taste. :P
and not that it all *compares* on scale or importance....but i remember people on this board going on about how disrespectful it was for people to boo, or to walk out on ed/then band. i am thinking of the uniondale show and all that. my first pj show ever, and it was beyond special. now, i did kinda think, again, it was in poor taste...but i also fuilly support anyone's right to boo, to walk out, etc....and this is a damn rock concert, not a national event for all..the inauguration of our new president! i am ALL for freedom of expression, dissent, etc.....i just don't think an inuguarion is the proper time/place...but i also in no way suggest such acts to be stopped, people's rights trampled, etc. and hey, as to the concert...while i cheered....i thought hey, cool, the band had the balls to play bushleaguer and such here, and ed always seemed to support freedom of speech and expression, so he had to expect some dissent. he was noticably pissed, which really i thought was a bit off, you can't expect all to agree with your views, even your fans ...but it was a cool experience all round, and i hope ed saw it as a 'positve'.....and besides, the cheers outweighed the boos.
anyhoo...it all makes for lively discussion and memories!
definitely. it's good to people react, in either direction...people should feel passionate
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sometimes i don't think you even read what you quote. where in the world do you even GET this? where did i say one needs to pretend they like someone, or support someone?
this was the inauguration of our NEW president. it was in his honor, and for us all. i personally do not think it's the time for unclassy displays towards the old president, or anyone honestly. i am all for dissent, vocal dissent......but really, what prupose did it serve? bush is out, he's done, he's gone...this was a day to celebrate the new, to welcome in our new president. he managed to be gracious and still let his thoughts be known, i find that classy. and i have said, numerous times over...bush does not deserve my respect....but the inauguration is not the place to show such disrespect.....out of respect for the process, the ceremony, the presidency itself and our new president...i think being classy is the way to go. you disagre, i get it...but at least don't read things into my posts that aren't even there.
it's obvious we disagree on the appropriateness, but i read what you say in response, and sometimes i just don't think you even see what i am saying. disagree, cool....i am not looking for agreement. dissent is a great thing, but there was nothing to dissent today...so it just imo was a display of poor taste...today should be all about celebrating and working towards the future. that's what i think in any case. i certainly support everyone's right to do as they see fit, not saying what they did was wrong in any sense. being unclassy or in poor taste ain't a crime as far as i know....... :P
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
and thereya go...THAT was my point.
as to the 'moral high ground'....i just don't even see it. saying on a message board that something done was unclassy or in poor taste, hardly constitues the moral high ground. it's expressing a pov. i certainly, if present, would not say a thing. everyone has the right to express themselves as they see fit...but you bet...i still would think it's in poor taste. if that's the moral high ground, so be it. it's simply how my mind works. and people express themselves in ALL sorts of ways, i and i am sure even a parent who mayv'e lost a child in iraq, or to any war, or someone who lost a job, etc... may not necessarily think it's in good taste to behave as such at the inauguration of a new president....THAT is all conjecture. we all have differing opinions......
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
exactly.
if it's their *right* to sing...it's my *right* to say it's in poor taste. :P
and not that it all *compares* on scale or importance....but i remember people on this board going on about how disrespectful it was for people to boo, or to walk out on ed/then band. i am thinking of the uniondale show and all that. my first pj show ever, and it was beyond special. now, i did kinda think, again, it was in poor taste...but i also fuilly support anyone's right to boo, to walk out, etc....and this is a damn rock concert, not a national event for all..the inauguration of our new president! i am ALL for freedom of expression, dissent, etc.....i just don't think an inuguarion is the proper time/place...but i also in no way suggest such acts to be stopped, people's rights trampled, etc. and hey, as to the concert...while i cheered....i thought hey, cool, the band had the balls to play bushleaguer and such here, and ed always seemed to support freedom of speech and expression, so he had to expect some dissent. he was noticably pissed, which really i thought was a bit off, you can't expect all to agree with your views, even your fans
anyhoo...it all makes for lively discussion and memories!
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
*would post the thumbs up emoticon if it existed*
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
(in keeping with the theme....i shall find a way to express myself. damnit