socialised health care

cornnifer

scb wrote:

ajedigecko wrote:

i also believe, if we took all of the money and divided it equally among the people. the people that had money before would have money again. the people that did not have money before, would not have money again. i base my observation solely on three examples that i am direclty in contact with. in each example, a person with no wealth inherited or won a large sum of money.......within 3 years, back to where they began or worse.

That's quite a generalization...

How is it a generalization? He based it on 3 whole people!!
*heavy sarcasm*

Kel Varnsen

decides2dream wrote:

and many argue about how inept the government is, don't want them in charge of healthcare, etc....but we already have governemrnt funded healthcare for some...so why not for all?

Actually living in Canada I think public health care makes the government a little less inept or at least more accountable. I do know that everytime there is a story about government wasteful spending some commentator will come on and talk about how the millions of dollars that was spent on some crap project could have paid for x amount of emergency room doctors, or MRI machines. When your tax money is going to keeping people from dying I think the government becomes more careful with it.

Flutter Girl

Kel Varnsen wrote:

decides2dream wrote:

and many argue about how inept the government is, don't want them in charge of healthcare, etc....but we already have governemrnt funded healthcare for some...so why not for all?

Actually living in Canada I think public health care makes the government a little less inept or at least more accountable. I do know that everytime there is a story about government wasteful spending some commentator will come on and talk about how the millions of dollars that was spent on some crap project could have paid for x amount of emergency room doctors, or MRI machines. When your tax money is going to keeping people from dying I think the government becomes more careful with it.

Tell that to the parents of the little girl who died in Britain after doctors wrongfully pulled 8 of her teeth then discharged her even tho she was not eating, then would not allow her back in the hospital, saying instead that the parents need to get a shrink for her, only the shrink refused to come out to see them, saying she'll go the following week, sucking on a watermelon is enough to keep her alive...she died from starvation and dehydration. she didn't need a fucking shrink, she needed to be in a hospital with a feeding tube till her mouth healed.

In America, if you need medical care, go to county, they cannot turn you away as the UK hospital did.

Kel Varnsen

RM291946 wrote:

Kel Varnsen wrote:

decides2dream wrote:

and many argue about how inept the government is, don't want them in charge of healthcare, etc....but we already have governemrnt funded healthcare for some...so why not for all?

Actually living in Canada I think public health care makes the government a little less inept or at least more accountable. I do know that everytime there is a story about government wasteful spending some commentator will come on and talk about how the millions of dollars that was spent on some crap project could have paid for x amount of emergency room doctors, or MRI machines. When your tax money is going to keeping people from dying I think the government becomes more careful with it.

Tell that to the parents of the little girl who died in Britain after doctors wrongfully pulled 8 of her teeth then discharged her even tho she was not eating, then would not allow her back in the hospital, saying instead that the parents need to get a shrink for her, only the shrink refused to come out to see them, saying she'll go the following week, sucking on a watermelon is enough to keep her alive...she died from starvation and dehydration. she didn't need a fucking shrink, she needed to be in a hospital with a feeding tube till her mouth healed.

In America, if you need medical care, go to county, they cannot turn you away as the UK hospital did.

But that is malpractice and a doctor in the US or any other country could do the exact same thing. I am not sure how it being a government funded system would make any difference. The only difference I could see was that in a US system after the kid died the parents would be sent a bill for the doctors time.

Sonja_S

I live in Austria and we have socialised health care that works. You just go to the doctor of your choice, slap down your 'e-card' where your insurance data ist saved and that's it. If the doctor turns out to be not to your liking or an incompentent moron, you just choose another one. There are also doctors who don't have contracts with the 'Krankenkassen' who run all the socialised stuff, so if you want to go to one of those you pay for it, but can then send the bill in and get a part of the money back by the Krankenkassa.

If you need prescriptions, most of the medication is covered at least partly by the insurance and with a prescription from your doctor you even get normally prescription-free medication cheaper. I'm not saying everything is ideal within our system, but it works pretty well and considering my aging parent's poor health, I can guarantee you they wouldn't be able to pay for all the medication they need on a daily basis outside of this system.

cornnifer

RM291946 wrote:

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In America, if you need medical care, go to county, they cannot turn you away as the UK hospital did.

Umm... have you not read any of the relatively recent news stories about people dying from treatable conditions on UNITED STATES emergency room floors?