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  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Soooo..

    If Sayid kills Ben.


    How does anything happen?
    Dunno. But it looks like he's violated the truce, fer shure! :lol:

    I think we might see the start of the war that Widmore was telling Locke about.

    BTW I thought Sayid actually seemed remorseful about killing Ben, even if it was going to prevent a lot of other bad things from happening.
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  • CHANGEinWAVES
    CHANGEinWAVES Posts: 10,169
    so juliette delivered Ethan ...... hmmmmmmmm :?
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    Way to go Sayid.
    Now just can't wait till he snaps "LaFleur"'s neck.
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    I liked the similarity in Sayid and Eko's back story last night. Where Eko had to do the killing for his little brother and for Sayid the reverse.

    What I'm trying to figure out (and we probably won't know until the end of the show next year) is why these particular people were on the plane. Was it Widmore steering them i.e. Locke or was it Ben because he knew them all in the past?

    It was funny hearing Sawyer refer to young Ben as a sweet kid. I wonder if this is how Ben got his crush on Juliet from seeing her in his formative years.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    Maybe if he had baked Sayid a ham instead of making a chicken salad sandwich (from the chicken Sayid strangled 30 years earlier), Sayid wouldn't have capped his young Benry ass.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Soooo..

    If Sayid kills Ben.


    How does anything happen?

    That's EXACTLY what I said.
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  • libragirl
    libragirl Posts: 4,632
    It's really good this season. I kind of figured he would gonna kill Ben.
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  • chromiam
    chromiam Posts: 4,114
    Ben survives... my guess is that Richard finds him and helps him.
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  • libragirl
    libragirl Posts: 4,632
    chromiam wrote:
    Ben survives... my guess is that Richard finds him and helps him.

    well yeah I didn't figure he was gonna really die. People don't seem to on that island.
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    edited March 2009
    chromiam wrote:
    Ben survives... my guess is that Richard finds him and helps him.
    Actually he survives the same way Locke did.
    Locke survived cause Roy Desoto stole his kidney and the bullet passed where it would have been.
    Sayid shot young Benry right in the chest, and the bullet passed right through cause Benry has no heart.
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    chromiam wrote:
    Ben survives... my guess is that Richard finds him and helps him.

    I agree that Ben survives. Though here's an interesting idea I talked with my friend about last night. It is convenient that a surgeon arrived on the island via plane right when Ben needs surgery. Now the question is would Jack actually help Ben knowing what he knows now.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • tvismyfriend
    tvismyfriend Posts: 2,118
    Solat13 wrote:
    chromiam wrote:
    Ben survives... my guess is that Richard finds him and helps him.

    I agree that Ben survives. Though here's an interesting idea I talked with my friend about last night. It is convenient that a surgeon arrived on the island via plane right when Ben needs surgery. Now the question is would Jack actually help Ben knowing what he knows now.
    You ain't making sense, do you mean help Ben when he's shot or help Ben with the Tumor?
  • chromiam
    chromiam Posts: 4,114
    tvismyfriend wrote:
    Solat13 wrote:
    chromiam wrote:
    Ben survives... my guess is that Richard finds him and helps him.

    I agree that Ben survives. Though here's an interesting idea I talked with my friend about last night. It is convenient that a surgeon arrived on the island via plane right when Ben needs surgery. Now the question is would Jack actually help Ben knowing what he knows now.
    You ain't making sense, do you mean help Ben when he's shot or help Ben with the Tumor?

    My guess is help him when shot... a parallel to how Jack arrived at the island when Ben needed surgery for his tumor. And now Jack is on the island when Ben needs surgery for a gunshot wound.
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    chromiam wrote:
    tvismyfriend wrote:
    Solat13 wrote:
    I agree that Ben survives. Though here's an interesting idea I talked with my friend about last night. It is convenient that a surgeon arrived on the island via plane right when Ben needs surgery. Now the question is would Jack actually help Ben knowing what he knows now.
    You ain't making sense, do you mean help Ben when he's shot or help Ben with the Tumor?

    My guess is help him when shot... a parallel to how Jack arrived at the island when Ben needed surgery for his tumor. And now Jack is on the island when Ben needs surgery for a gunshot wound.

    Yep, thanks for explaining my theory in more detail.

    It seems like there is a symmetry for everything in the show.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • tvismyfriend
    tvismyfriend Posts: 2,118
    Yeah, but if Jack wasn't on the island Ben wouldn't have been shot.
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    tvismyfriend wrote:
    Yeah, but if Jack wasn't on the island Ben wouldn't have been shot.

    Or if Ben wasn't such a jerk to Sayid he wouldn't have been shot either. ;)

    The thing is Ben needs a surgeon and luckily one's there again for him.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • chromiam
    chromiam Posts: 4,114
    Like Farraday said, you can't change the past. I'm beginning to think that it means you can't change the outcome of the past. You may be able to change events but the outcome will be the same.
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  • Riverrunner
    Riverrunner Posts: 2,419
    chromiam wrote:
    Like Farraday said, you can't change the past. I'm beginning to think that it means you can't change the outcome of the past. You may be able to change events but the outcome will be the same.

    Very astute of you. Which would mean that the DI people die anyway, but maybe not by gassing or else somebody else does it.
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  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    Poncier wrote:
    Maybe if he had baked Sayid a ham instead of making a chicken salad sandwich (from the chicken Sayid strangled 30 years earlier), Sayid wouldn't have capped his young Benry ass.
    Well, Benry originally brought him a ham sandwich so you can't say he didn't try. I suppose his culinary skills weren't as developed yet. :P

    Horace told Sawyer that Sayid wasn't eating. Possibly the ham sandwich didn't appeal to him but there's also the fact that Sayid is a Muslim, although not the most observant one what with being a torturer and member of the Ben Linus Army of Assassins. :twisted:
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  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    Solat13 wrote:
    tvismyfriend wrote:
    Yeah, but if Jack wasn't on the island Ben wouldn't have been shot.

    Or if Ben wasn't such a jerk to Sayid he wouldn't have been shot either. ;)

    The thing is Ben needs a surgeon and luckily one's there again for him.
    But how is Jack going to perform surgery on Ben without blowing his cover as a janitor? It was easier for Juliet--working on transmissions, delivering babies, not much difference. ;)
    "The stars are all connected to the brain."

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